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i dont know but its loving stupid. stop sitting around calculating reasons why you shouldn't play mafia and loving play mafia its why you signed up right
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mafia is just an excuse to shitpost
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Sep 4, 2017 19:40
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## vote RF Because I think he is scum doing a great impression of The Thinker.
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Sep 4, 2017 20:28
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##vote Stickup
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derp posted:i dont know but its loving stupid. stop sitting around calculating reasons why you shouldn't play mafia and loving play mafia its why you signed up right yeah, I guess. D1 is like shitposting central though from my experience, so basically: flerp posted:mafia is just an excuse to shitpost
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Sep 4, 2017 20:50
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wait, are people talking about day 1 like the first 24 hours, or Day One like, the first mafia day... because killing someone in the first 24 hours okay that can be dumb, but you drat well better kill someone in the first game day every time or that is a lazy/ disengaged town signing their suicide note
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Sep 4, 2017 20:53
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Mr. F! posted:##vote Stickup omg, us
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derp posted:wait, are people talking about day 1 like the first 24 hours, or Day One like, the first mafia day... yeah i do agree, there should be a lynch d1, but honestly, i have no clue what's going on w/r/t to this game. all of the cases i have seen feel like joke cases so its felt like we're in a weird limbo state between joke and serious phase. also there's like 3 or 4 posters who are lurking extremely hard and havent posted once this entire long rear end day which is making me v mad. Mr. F! posted:##vote Stickup why?
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Sep 4, 2017 21:25
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2 penny bottle imp posted:RF... is ... doing a great impression Thank you
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Sep 4, 2017 21:30
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flerp posted:yeah i do agree, there should be a lynch d1, but honestly, i have no clue what's going on w/r/t to this game. all of the cases i have seen feel like joke cases so its felt like we're in a weird limbo state between joke and serious phase. I assume it's in response to stickup's vote for him, but I dunno.
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Sep 4, 2017 21:41
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Votecount for Day 1  Retro Futurist (2): The Ninth Layer, 2 penny bottle imp this is a stickup (2): Kashuno, yronic heroism, Mr. F!, The Ninth Layer (2): Retro Futurist, Kashuno Mr. F! (1): this is a stickup DivineCoffeeBinge (1): derp 2 penny bottle imp (0): Flamander, derp (0): The Ninth Layer, yronic heroism, got some chores tonight (0): Mr. F!, Flamander (0): 2 penny bottle imp, Kashuno (0): this is a stickup, Not Voting (5): DivineCoffeeBinge, Flamander, flerp, got some chores tonight, SaithWith 13 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. The current deadline is September 04th, 2017 at 8 p.m. CDT -- that's in about 1 hour, 26 minutes.
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Sep 4, 2017 23:33
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Deadlines in less than two hours. I don't think we're going to vote anyone out but maybe people will show up and prove me wrong.
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Sep 4, 2017 23:38
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okay i'll help kill opop i guess #vote rf seems better than the other top contenders atm
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Sep 4, 2017 23:44
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i dont like voting opop but i also dont like no lynching 
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Sep 4, 2017 23:49
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flerp posted:i dont like voting opop but i also dont like no lynching i'll help kill this guy if anyone else is around to switch over
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Sep 4, 2017 23:51
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This is atrocious.
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Sep 4, 2017 23:52
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what is 'saith' are then even in this game wtf
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Sep 4, 2017 23:52
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tbf i think most of those people, like saith and chores and maybe flamander will be freely lynchable tomorrow
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Sep 4, 2017 23:53
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I'll vote for RF, let's not no lynch. ##vote RF I hate no lynching
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Sep 4, 2017 23:54
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ugh okay ##vote rf
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flerp posted:tbf i think most of those people, like saith and chores and maybe flamander will be freely lynchable tomorrow if we can get enough votes to kill them :v
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Sep 4, 2017 23:56
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derp posted:if we can get enough votes to kill them :v
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Sep 4, 2017 23:59
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Honestly - and I can clearly see that this isn't a popular position, clearly, but so be it - I'm not certain that a D1 no-lynch isn't better than grabbing someone on the flimsiest of evidence and just hoping they're actually scum. Because they usually aren't. At least by D2 investigative roles have some data and there's some vague hope that we're going on more than just blind gut instinct. It has been some time since I was in a SA Mafia Game, but I do still remember the fairly ridiculous number of times town ended up lynching their Doctor or something on D1 and everyone going "well that sucked but at least we learned something, right guys?" Yeah, what you learned is that you lost a valuable role and the chances of a scum victory increased significantly because you did their loving job for them. Keep telling yourself it was a net positive that you cost Town a potentially useful player on the basis of thinking their jokes weren't funny; maybe you can convince yourself. There's a reason a bunch of non-SA mafia-type games (I'm thinking specifically at the moment of Town of Salem, which no one should play because it's terrible and full of idiots) just skip D1 entirely; it's because a blind lynch is worse than no lynch at all. Obviously that is very much not the current meta - I don't know what I was expecting but it wasn't the degree of vehemence with which people have disagreed - but that's where I'm coming from. Having said all of that, that entire premise only works if there are people on D1 who are disagreeing with me and trying to stir the pot by posting and voting, so gently caress, I don't know. A game in which everyone agreed with what I'm saying would probably have a pretty quiet and boring D1, so maybe I'm not as close to a Universal Theory Of Mafia as I think; doesn't change the fact that on Day One I would rather be thought of as terrible for not voting than actually be terrible by costing Town a player.
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Sep 5, 2017 00:13
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let's kill one of the people actively pushing for a no lynch that would starve this game starved of information of information
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Sep 5, 2017 00:16
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will kill opop if that's the thing
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Sep 5, 2017 00:17
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this is a stickup posted:let's kill one of the people actively pushing for a no lynch that would starve this game starved of information of information When the information you gain is "well, that was a townie, and no one can even call the votes scummy because we were all baying for someone's blood because for some reason we love to murder," how exactly is that a benefit?
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:When the information you gain is "well, that was a townie, and no one can even call the votes scummy because we were all baying for someone's blood because for some reason we love to murder," how exactly is that a benefit? It's a benefit because I don't automatically assume I can't find scum on day 1 for no reason besides defeatism. Yes town players get voted out on day 1. Yes on day 2 you can analyze who voted for bad or no reasons. Anything you're saying about day 1 you could apply to a day 2 following a day 1 where nobody did anything.
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Sep 5, 2017 00:23
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a lackluster D1 does not mean that no useful information can be gleamed from poo poo posts during D1, and especially not post mortem
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I will vote to lynch a lurker if there's one people can get behind. Otherwise, my vote stays on RF. I just think he's being slightly scummy in the way he was trying to control the conversation.
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2 penny bottle imp posted:I will vote to lynch a lurker if there's one people can get behind. Otherwise, my vote stays on RF. I just think he's being slightly scummy in the way he was trying to control the conversation. DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Honestly - and I can clearly see that this isn't a popular position, clearly, but so be it - I'm not certain that a D1 no-lynch isn't better than grabbing someone on the flimsiest of evidence and just hoping they're actually scum. Because they usually aren't. At least by D2 investigative roles have some data and there's some vague hope that we're going on more than just blind gut instinct. It has been some time since I was in a SA Mafia Game, but I do still remember the fairly ridiculous number of times town ended up lynching their Doctor or something on D1 and everyone going "well that sucked but at least we learned something, right guys?" Yeah, what you learned is that you lost a valuable role and the chances of a scum victory increased significantly because you did their loving job for them. Keep telling yourself it was a net positive that you cost Town a potentially useful player on the basis of thinking their jokes weren't funny; maybe you can convince yourself. There's a reason a bunch of non-SA mafia-type games (I'm thinking specifically at the moment of Town of Salem, which no one should play because it's terrible and full of idiots) just skip D1 entirely; it's because a blind lynch is worse than no lynch at all. how do you feel about this post when RF is at 4/7 votes 45 minutes before deadline?
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Sep 5, 2017 00:26
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##vote retrofuturist
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I could name two or three other practical reasons for not nonlynching too (like scum having more influence on the execution when an even number of players are alive vs odd numbers).
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Sep 5, 2017 00:27
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The Ninth Layer posted:This is atrocious. Agreed ##vote Saith
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it's suuuper totally okay if we just let this no lynch happen friendos! did you know some people skip d1 entirely because it's such a crapshoot?yronic heroism posted:Agreed this person is scum too though, seriously. throwing out random votes with poo poo reasons at all times just to say he participated
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Sep 5, 2017 00:29
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all of these people are not voting, why would you come in 30m from deadline to call out lurkers and non voters by wasting your vote on one
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this is a stickup posted:all of these people are not voting, why would you come in 30m from deadline to call out lurkers and non voters by wasting your vote on one Agreed.
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Sep 5, 2017 00:32
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We are at -2.
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Sep 5, 2017 00:36
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Ok but after you idiots kill me please avenge me by killing TNL tomorrow
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