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EvilHawk posted:I'm interested to see what the end point of this is. I can't quite remember the timeline, is this about the same time frame for Rachel to disappear? Seems like an obvious cutoff... This is 3 years before the original and apparently only takes place over the course of about a week or so. So unless we get some kind of time jump in the last episode I doubt it. Also I'm very curious now how the inevitable confrontation with Sera is going to go. Frank says she's been causing trouble for a lot of people so perhaps the apple doesn't fall far from the tree in this case (that is, she exemplifies all of Rachel's worst traits only magnified) or there could be some kind of extenuating circumstances and she's just trying to reunite with her daughter. Either way, Rachel might not like what she finds when they finally do meet (the fact that she hasn't even gotten a line yet kind of worries me a little). Also reminder that this is a Life is Strange game and nobody's died yet, Sera's probably going to be the top contender if they do wind up going in that direction. Unrelated but Eliot's starting to come off as a little stalkerish now (especially considering some of the stuff you find in his room) hope he doesn't snap or something come Episode 3. Despite this being a prequel I honestly have no idea how all this is going to ultimately end, and I'm ok with that. Larryb fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Oct 19, 2017 |
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Larryb posted:Unrelated but Eliot's starting to come off as a little stalkerish now (especially considering some of the stuff you find in his room) hope he doesn't snap or something come Episode 3. Agreed, but... I mean... glass houses here, Chloe. "That guy's totally a creepy stalker" "How do you know?" "I broke into his room and read his diary while he wasn't around." Edit: hosed up my tags, whoops Nameless Pete fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Oct 19, 2017 |
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Nameless Pete posted:Agreed, but... I mean... glass houses here, Chloe. "That guy's totally a creepy stalker" "How do you know?" "I broke into his room and read his diary while he wasn't around." Fair point. Off the subject, the whole Damon Merrick thing didn't really seem to amount to much overall but he could be back for the finale, not sure in what capacity though (it seems that Sera is working with him though). I'm sure there will be something more going on in Episode 3 besides just Rachel meeting her mom at the very least On a slightly darker note, I just noticed that Samantha (the shy girl who seems to have a crush on Nathan) is also one of the names that appears on the binders in the Dark Room during the first game. Finally, before the play there's an optional scene where we finally get to meet Sean Prescott in person, and he's just as much of an rear end in a top hat as you'd expect.. Larryb fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Oct 20, 2017 |
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Oct 19, 2017 22:38
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EvilHawk posted:Woah, this seems to have played out very different in my playthrough. I had Victoria trying to drug Rachel to claim the lead role, then I decided to switch the cups to drug Victory instead. In my plathrough I let Rachel take the blame and she lost the role. When we were backstage Rachel was nice to Vic and I followed suit because Victoria Chase is great and I love her. Then when Vicky left Rachel was all "thanks for distracting her i totally slipped those pills into her tea:)))" and it felt unnerving to unknowingly be a part of Rachel's scheme (which was drugging someone into unconsciousness). I definitely have to go back and see the other ways this plays out. Paul Zuvella posted:Joyce is kicking rear end in the beginning of this episode I love Joyce and the way she acts in the opening of the episode plays out differently depending on how nice you were, what you did with the cash, etc. It breaks my heart seeing how hard everyone is trying and knowing how it all turns out. It's pretty fun to see the tiny differences that make each playthrough unique though. Even Skip reacts to you differently depending on if you're a Pisshead fan.
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So I am indeed dying at work, here. It's dragging by so slowly ... At least I have the next two days off. I just want to play Lesbian Simulator 2017 gdi.
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LoseHound posted:I love Joyce and the way she acts in the opening of the episode plays out differently depending on how nice you were, what you did with the cash, etc. It breaks my heart seeing how hard everyone is trying and knowing how it all turns out. Joyce is one of my favorites and you can easily see where a lot of Chloe's personality traits come from by looking at her parents. Even if something terrible doesn't happen in the final episode whatever ending(s) we get are going to be bittersweet at best since we know that things are only going to get worse for these characters from here I still think doing a timeskip at the end and finishing off with a leadup to the bathroom scene from the original would be a nice way to bring things full circle though. I'm actually tempted to go back and play the first game again once Episode 3 drops if only to see how much the knowledge gained from BtS changes the experience.
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I was looking forward to playing this tonight, but two hours before my shift ended, my roommate texts me that she blew out two tires on a pothole. Now I have to sit around bored for two hours until she gets off work and go pick her up.
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Canemacar posted:I was looking forward to playing this tonight, but two hours before my shift ended, my roommate texts me that she blew out two tires on a pothole. Now I have to sit around bored for two hours until she gets off work and go pick her up. Jesus, two on one pothole? That blows.
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FRANK HAS A CABINET FULL OF BEANS GAME OF THE YEAR HOLY poo poo BABY POMPODEAU
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Paul Zuvella posted:They ruined Samuel Yeah, he's one of the few cast replacements they could have done a much better job with in my opinion. This version just sounds like a guy talking through gritted teeth, the dialogue he was given wasn't quite as effective as the original's either. Larryb fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Oct 20, 2017 |
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Larryb posted:Yeah, he's one of the few cast replacements they could have done a much better job with in my opinion. This version just sounds like a guy talking through gritted teeth, the dialogue he was given wasn't quite as effective as the original's either. He was doing some weird yoda poo poo and it was awful
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Paul Zuvella posted:He was doing some weird yoda poo poo and it was awful Yeah, that too. Which is a shame as they'd been doing such a good job with most of the other old characters so far, but as I don't see much reason for us to return to Blackwell in the final chapter this might at least be the last we see of him.
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Just finished this episode and I'd like to be congratulated for being utterly and inexorably Right About Video Games once more. I called all that poo poo! Still trying to put it all together but I really liked a whole lot of it. Some segments like the leadup to breaking into Drew's room I think went on for a bit too long but others were just great, like I'd put the whole school play sequence up against some of my favorite scenes from the original Life is Strange. Some of the major choices were actually pretty difficult this time around and I spent a long time deciding.. 1. Took the blame for Rachel. This is such an obvious Chloe thing to do, although I suppose later you can trick and/or spike Victoria's drink so that Rachel can play Prospero anyway? Can Rachel ever not just be Prospero? 2. Did not empty pockets for David. Surprised to see this was the less popular choice but hey gently caress fascists. 3. Gave Damon the money. Another unpopular choice, but my rationale was that Drew could get in a lot of trouble and lose his scholarship if word got out about his debts with drug dealers around town. Sorry Mikey. I just know this one is probably coming back to haunt me later. 4. Kissed Rachel I mean come ON people this is Life is Strange!!! Of all the segments I think I liked the fireside chat with Raven-dad the most, it carried the analogy of Rachel Amber and the wildfire very well.
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I believe Rachel winds up taking the role no matter what. From what I hear, if she gets dropped from the play then she ends up drugging Victoria herself later on. I'm still not convinced that Rachel's real mom is a good person just yet. There's a file in Rachel's house stating she works for Damon, Frank said she's been causing trouble for people all over town, and that little smirk she gave at the end of the last episode still kind of rubs me the wrong way. But who knows? Maybe she just made some bad choices in her life and genuinely wants to reconcile with her estranged daughter. There's also a slight discrepancy with her that I mentioned earlier, apparently the texture files for her model in the previous episode refer to her as "Ruth". My guess is the developers either changed their minds or that "Sera" is an alias (which would make sense given the limited information we get about her in this game). Overall there's a bit more happening in this episode but the story still seems a little weak overall. Hopefully they'll still be able to pull a decent finale out of all of this though. Also just curious but if you let Rachel take the blame at the beginning does Chloe still wind up getting expelled anyway? Larryb fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Oct 20, 2017 |
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I also just finished it, and have some thoughts! the chapter was just too long, there was too much fat that could be trimmed. The fan-service stuff in the junkyard was pretty perplexing, considering the bottle adventure was one of the worst parts of the first season. Once we got back to blackwell it got way, way better. It is astounding how bad they hosed up samuel, it might as well be a different character. Frank's bean cabinet and puppy Pompideau were standouts, also the play scene. I still think the overall plot is lacking and generally weak, but scene to scene the game is compelling. Took the blame Emptied pockets Stayed With Mikey Kissed Rachel
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It's been interesting adjusting my expectations for the game. It seems likely that we aren't going to get any kind of crazy revelations or massive plot twists with one episode to go. More than anything, it's just about when Chloe met Rachel, and I think I'm fine with that.
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esperterra posted:Jesus, two on one pothole? That blows. I was honestly impressed by her accomplishment. Anyway it all worked out so that I get to stay home tomorrow and enjoy the new episode.
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I dug this episode a lot, even if it took my slow rear end about six hours to clear. Maybe because I found myself Googling dialogue from The Tempest and fell into a weird Shakespeare rabbit hole. I saw a performance of Tempest not too long ago, really wish my memory was better. I was a bit surprised with just how strong they start with that opening scene in Wells' office. A bunch of pretty important choices and at least one major binary within the first ten minutes feels like a first for these games. I really liked the dream sequence, especially the animated illuminati graffiti, which I'm trying not to read too much into. Also the layered use of sound for the raven really got to me for some reason. Like others here, I'm not sure how I feel about the junkyard busywork and to a lesser extent the dinner busywork at Rachel's house but these are minor mechanical quibbles. Story-wise, one possible bigger problem is I'm wondering if Sera might not have enough time to become compelling on her own, given we're two episodes into a three-episode series and she's yet to speak a word, but I think these two episodes have been strong enough for me to have faith in Deck Nine here. Like D&D in Episode 1, The Tempest is another very strong highlight, especially when Rachel starts going off script which really threw me off, probably because I was kinda-sorta cheating.  I got all the graffiti spots except for one in the dorms which is either bugged and not appearing or I'm just completely blind. Let Rachel take the blame Emptied my pockets for David Stayed with Mikey, then gave Drew the money Kissed Rachel, duh
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Aw yiss, my coworker wanted to come in early today and after ten thousand years I'm freeeeeeeeeeeee!
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I saw the twist coming because Sera looks too much like Rachel I also wish they had found a way to put more story in the game, like enough to give us a fourth chapter. I know it's a prequel and not too much poo poo can go down but still will be disappointed if that fire doesn't drop some bodies in the final do. Also this episode feels very Telltale gamey with stuff like you either end up suspended or expelled, Rachel always ends up in the play... it's a fun cinematic experience though so I will let that pass. I actually think it might have more replay value than the original because Max has a lot less personality (plus I have no rewind power)
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What a fun and surprisingly LONG episode, no real gut punch like the Car and the Howl in #1, but I really enjoyed the character work. Did anyone notice any impact to with who you have the t-shirt money too? The lock was annoying, because not being an American, I wanted to convert those dates into DDMM not MMDD. E2 Spoils Dream Dad's talk about the fire blinding you with beauty because it's entirely self obsessed with itself speaks volumes when in Episode 1 Rachel was standing there on the side of the road literally on fire. Bit blunt. Sara being Rachel's mother isn't much of a shock, with one episode left sadly there isn't much time left to really develop that character beyond the current enigma she is. So wild Ep3 speculation... -Samantha is heavily alluded to as victim number #1 of the dark room in the epilogue. - Eliot takes the display on stage between Rachel and Chloe as taunting rejection and takes it very poorly. He's good with knots... - Drew (with the correct choices) comes racing in at some moment as a "White" Knight deus ex. - A violent confrontation between the Arcadia Bay drug crew leaves only Frank standing thanks to some intervention from the Dream Team. - I think we're done with Joyce and David, save for a newspaper clipping of a new Security job going at Blackwell now that Skip is done with that poo poo now that Pisshead is blowing up. Arach fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Oct 20, 2017 |
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Arach posted:-Samantha is heavily alluded to as victim number #1 of the dark room in the epilogue. If you go back to the original you can see her name on one of the binders in the Dark Room (it could be a different Samantha though and I don't think Jefferson even enters the picture until a few years after this but it's possible) But yeah, this game does feel very Telltale-esque without the Rewind mechanic. Failure typically only results in some minor change and you're still more or less railroaded onto the path the developers want you to take regardless of your choices, still good though. Also, entirely too many good things happened to Chloe in this episode. Since it's been well established that the universe hates her on a personal level (which still kind of annoys me a bit to be honest) I fully expect her to pay for this somehow in the finale. I wonder if they're still going to do multiple endings in this game and ,if so, how much they're willing to gently caress with canon to pull them off.
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So did Frank fake the deaths of those other dogs at the barn and rescue them? He had a lot of steaks (and beans)...
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Time to roll a fatass joint and dive in! See you on the other side, friends. AKA as soon as something I want to comment on happens.
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I wonder if me just getting expelled is going to change the next episode much.
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esperterra posted:I wonder if me just getting expelled is going to change the next episode much. Well it had to happen to put Chloe where she's at in Life Is Strange.
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Delsaber posted:
I missed that one the first time too. You have to investigate the room and find some incriminating stuff first and then it will let you do the graffiti.
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I really want someone to put Chloe trying to climb into the boat into a faux Assassins' Creed trailer.
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Larryb posted:If you go back to the original you can see her name on one of the binders in the Dark Room (it could be a different Samantha though and I don't think Jefferson even enters the picture until a few years after this but it's possible) Untrue. I even went back and double checked it myself, there's no Samantha on the shelves. Closest is a "Suzie."
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I like how most of the Backtalk sequences in this game begin as an option against your better judgment, but they've got the attractive blue dialogue bubble option so you can't resist. Just like Chloe, you're prodded to always get in the last word. That being said I've chosen to not get in a shouting match a few times now, although I feel like these decisions are mostly unpopular. Did anyone notice a difference in conversation if you never backtalked Wells in Episode 1 and didn't get involved with Drew vs Nathan? In this episode I also didn't come at James. In the first Life is Strange I found Max to be more relateable to my own upbringing and so the choices I made were mostly centered around how I would personally react. But Chloe is such an established character already that in BtS I feel like I'm making the decisions she would make, like I'm guiding her on some predetermined path exactly to where we find her in Episode 1 of LiS. So while I do feel kind of bad for Joyce and David I don't have trouble going with the hella reckless and aggressive responses.yronic heroism posted:So did Frank fake the deaths of those other dogs at the barn and rescue them? He had a lot of steaks (and beans)... I think Frank is just inexperienced and does not know how to care for another living thing at this point. exquisite tea fucked around with this message at 08:56 on Oct 20, 2017 |
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Nameless Pete posted:Untrue. I even went back and double checked it myself, there's no Samantha on the shelves. Closest is a "Suzie." Ah, my mistake then. Judging by the title, I think we now have an idea who our "devils" are going to be next time. Sera will obviously be the star of the show, Damon's probably gonna come back and if they follow the trend they seem to be setting up there might be something going on with Eliot as well (which I almost hope winds up happening to be honest as otherwise he's just Warren only somehow blander and creepier at the same time), not to mention more of Chloe and Rachel dealing with their own personal demons. I wonder if there's going to be something akin to the Nightmare from the last game though (as I said before, it'd be cool though probably unlikely to have a Backtalk Mirror Match between Rihanna DeVries Chloe and Ashly Burch Chloe. I'd imagine it'd involve the latter just making GBS threads on you for all the choices you made throughout the game). While we've still got a year or two left in the timeline before the major poo poo starts going down I'm still worried something really bad is going to happen to our girls (or at least to Chloe) in the next one. This almost feels too short to be honest, like they could have tossed in at least one more episode to flesh things out a bit more(the bonus episode doesn't really count in that regard as it's basically a prequel to the prequel). But they still might wind up giving us a satisfying conclusion regardless. Larryb fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Oct 20, 2017 |
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exquisite tea posted:I like how most of the Backtalk sequences in this game begin as an option against your better judgment, but they've got the attractive blue dialogue bubble option so you can't resist. Just like Chloe, you're prodded to always get in the last word. That being said I've chosen to not get in a shouting match a few times now, although I feel like these decisions are mostly unpopular. Did anyone notice a difference in conversation if you never backtalked Wells in Episode 1 and didn't get involved with Drew vs Nathan? In this episode I also didn't come at James. In the first Life is Strange I found Max to be more relateable to my own upbringing and so the choices I made were mostly centered around how I would personally react. But Chloe is such an established character already that in BtS I feel like I'm making the decisions she would make, like I'm guiding her on some predetermined path exactly to where we find her in Episode 1 of LiS. So while I do feel kind of bad for Joyce and David I don't have trouble going with the hella reckless and aggressive responses. why dog not eat steak
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If we ever return to Arcadia Bay it should star Frank, a simple man torn between his dog, his drugs, and his beans.
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Torgo2727 posted:New voice actor for Samuel was aggressively bad. I ducked out of that conversation as fast as I could. I'm still flabbergasted by how bad it was, tbh
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