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Larryb posted:It's pretty fun, though it does hit a lot of similar points as LiS (One of the primary characters is basically just a less angry Chloe in crocodile form, a friend of one of the main characters is missing at the start of the game and winds up having been killed by one of the primary villains, main character starts becoming progressively more broken as things go on due to the situation she finds herself in and in part through her own actions, somewhat goofy dialogue at times, etc). I haven't played it, but this looks like a pretty major spoiler to drop when someone is asking about the game. SirSamVimes fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Nov 1, 2017 |
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Agreed, and you might want to spoiler it in your quote as well. I say this as somebody who had to stop following this thread like a month ago specifically out of fear of getting spoilered from all the Night in the Woods crosstalk going on then. (I since played it; it rules and LIS fans should check it out)
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SirSamVimes posted:I haven't played it, but this looks like a pretty major spoiler to drop when someone is asking about the game. Fair point, spoiler tags have been added (you should probably put them into the quoted post as well then). Back to this game but was it ever explicitly stated in the first game that Chloe had been expelled from Blackwell or just that she was no longer a student there? If not then both of the outcomes from the opening conversation in Episode 2 could be canon (that is, she was suspended but just never bothered to come back). Out of curiosity, would it be possible for them to port this and/or the original to the Switch or something one day or is the game's size too big for a system like that to handle? It's been recently hinted that Night in the Woods is likely getting a port at least so it might be nice to get a LiS game on a Nintendo console one day as well. Larryb fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Nov 1, 2017 |
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Larryb posted:So with BtS wrapping up soon what kind of things would you like to see implemented and/or improved on in LiS 2? I had a thought about Life is Strange and why the gameplay mechanics worked the way they worked. The time travel mechanic works essentially the same way the Nameless One worked in Planescape. The developers took a standard trope of the genre - the game over screen, took it away and made it part of the story. 18 Int / Wis Nameless one died in combat? No worries. Failed to solve the puzzle about freeing Chloe's foot from the railway? You don't get a game over screen and get sent back to the last autosave, you just rewind. I don't like the way this decision tree is panning out, let's not bother quick loading, i'll just rewind and redo the conversation. This was what separates Life is Strange from the other brownie batter Telltale story games. Someone smarter than me expand on this idea, tia.
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Nov 1, 2017 01:56
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Larryb posted:Back to this game but was it ever explicitly stated in the first game that Chloe had been expelled from Blackwell or just that she was no longer a student there? If not then both of the outcomes from the opening conversation in Episode 2 could be canon (that is, she was suspended but just never bothered to come back). From Chloe's Blackwell file in S1 Ep3: quote:Chloe Price is a problematic student at Blackwell despite the best efforts of the faculty and administration to guide her academically. It says "parking lot" (there's no way the "Cars = Death" in Episode 1 is anybody but her), but it mostly gels. Nameless Pete fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Nov 1, 2017 |
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Torgo2727 posted:I had a thought about Life is Strange and why the gameplay mechanics worked the way they worked. The time travel mechanic works essentially the same way the Nameless One worked in Planescape. The developers took a standard trope of the genre - the game over screen, took it away and made it part of the story. Fair point, this does make the game more unique than your average Telltale-style outing so I take back the part regarding the powers. The rest is still valid though. Though on that note BtS seems to overcompensate for the lack of a Rewind a bit by basically making it impossible to fail (even if you lose a Backtalk Challenge you're typically still allowed to complete your objective somehow regardless). Nameless Pete posted:It says "parking lot" (there's no way the "Cars = Death" in Episode 1 is anybody but her), but it mostly gels. Eh, wouldn't be the first minor contradiction in this game (in Life is Strange Blackwell is explicitly stated to be a finishing school for seniors but here it's a 4 year school). Larryb fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Nov 1, 2017 |
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Nov 1, 2017 02:15
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Chloe would hate cars, what with her dad and all.
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Nov 1, 2017 02:35
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According to Max, Chloe parks like an rear end in a top hat.
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Nov 1, 2017 13:03
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Takes up two handicapped spots in Ep 1, steals from the handicapped fund in Ep 3, quadripalegic in Ep 4. Life comes at u fast.
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exquisite tea posted:Takes up two handicapped spots in Ep 1, steals from the handicapped fund in Ep 3, quadripalegic in Ep 4. Life comes at u fast. This universe does seem big on karmic payback, yes. Though I do question why Chloe was still hanging around Blackwell after her plan to blackmail Nathan backfired. It seems like she was just kind of aimlessly wandering around campus until she happened to run into Max.
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Nov 1, 2017 13:28
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She was clearly reflecting upon her close brush with death to smoke weed with Justin and practice tre flips on the Blackwell quad.
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Nah, she used the same escape route from Episode 3. Which meant a quick detour to perv through the girl's locker room.
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So I decided to replay Life Is Strange while we await the grand finale to Before The Storm. Mr Jefferson's introduction really stood out to me. When the player meets him for the first time, little suspecting his evil nature, he's front and center. One would think that was perfectly normal since Max wakes up in a classroom and he's the teacher. The reason it stands out is because he's not seated behind his desk, he's perched on a table in the middle of the room with the sun pouring over him like a spotlight. When you take into account his sly remark about capturing any one of the students in a dark corner, it really gives you a vibe that he's smugly pleased with his own cleverness. The villain of the piece is hiding in plain sight and he's loving it. Makes the photo of him being dragged off in handcuffs, knowing that his life is over, so cathartic. Also, I'd love to know who he's talking to on the phone during Episode Two. That conversation really stands out to me because of how plainly nervous he is about having to talk to the unknown person in a school hallway. Eshettar fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Nov 1, 2017 |
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Eshettar posted:Also, I'd love to know who he's talking to on the phone during Episode Two. That conversation really stands out to me because of how plainly nervous he is about having to talk to the unknown person in a school hallway. Sean Prescott would probably be my best guess though I'm pretty sure he doesn't particularly give a poo poo about Jefferson. Nathan was already in the classroom with Victoria at the time (plus if it was him Jefferson probably would have been more annoyed than nervous in that case) and I'm not sure who else it could possibly have been. Larryb fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Nov 1, 2017 |
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Larryb posted:Sean Prescott would probably be my best guess though I'm pretty sure he doesn't particularly give a poo poo about Jefferson. Nathan was already in the classroom with Victoria at the time (plus if it was him Jefferson probably would have been more annoyed than nervous in that case) and I'm not sure who else it could possibly have been. I think the general theory is that there was a broader plot involving Nathans father that ended up getting cut but still has a bunch of pieces throughout the game?
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Wezlar posted:I think the general theory is that there was a broader plot involving Nathans father that ended up getting cut but still has a bunch of pieces throughout the game? Probably, I believe the general story had been planned out from the beginning but some aspects got altered or removed for a number of reasons. For example, Episode 5 had a whole bunch of cut content that's up on YouTube if you're interested, a line from Nathan in the trailer for Episode 4 where he's screaming about the storm, concept art of Max wearing a hospital gown and even a third ending where Chloe still gets shot but survives. So far the only things I know that were altered from BtS was a cut conversation with Taylor in the first episode (possibly because Chloe kind of comes off as more mean spirited than usual in it) and that according to some model files that were extracted from the game Sera was originally going to be called "Ruth". Here's the aforementioned Taylor conversation if anyone's curious: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uxYT45OgSVE Larryb fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Nov 1, 2017 |
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I know it's not likely, but I kinda hope when DONTNOD releases LiS2, they'll also put out a "Director's Cut" of LiS as a promo that'll include some of that cut content. Episode 5 is kinda obviously stitched together and I'd love to see how it would have turned out if they could have polished it a bit more.
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Canemacar posted:I know it's not likely, but I kinda hope when DONTNOD releases LiS2, they'll also put out a "Director's Cut" of LiS as a promo that'll include some of that cut content. Episode 5 is kinda obviously stitched together and I'd love to see how it would have turned out if they could have polished it a bit more. That would be nice yes, plus apparently Night in the Woods is getting one soon so why not this as well? Finally showing Nintendo owners some love regarding this series would be good too (I'm honestly not sure why they couldn't port the first game or BtS to the Switch unless Square has some kind of exclusive contract with Sony and Microsoft or something).
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esperterra posted:100% what I did. I couldn't justify stealing the money. My Chloe has been sober the whole game 
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precision posted:I couldn't justify stealing the money. My Chloe has been sober the whole game My justification was 'Frank's sitting right there and I want some grass'.
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Chloe is a weed elemental.
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$20 for a T-shirt is a rip off. That guy was an rear end in a top hat.
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Canemacar posted:$20 for a T-shirt is a rip off. That guy was an rear end in a top hat. for a band t-shirt? That seems pretty typical. That whole scene is poo poo though, why the gently caress are they carding at a loving illegal, hypodermic needle filled, drug den concert venue anyway.
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Cant have kids around or they might get us in trouble *leaves heroin lying around*
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Also for that matter how did Rachel manage to get in? Though she apparently somehow saw the conversation between Chloe and the bouncer without either of them noticing her so it's possible she could have snuck in the back while he was distracted.
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Everything's easier when you're pretty.
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Paul Zuvella posted:for a band t-shirt? That seems pretty typical. All band shirts are a rip off if you buy at the venue. Anyone else feel bad that you couldn't do anything about the girl passed out at the concert? Especially with the creepy guys hanging around?
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exquisite tea posted:Everything's easier when you're pretty. Good point, plus Rachel's pretty much a social chameleon and knows all the right buttons to press with people. She can probably just go wherever she wants without much issue. Though how she managed to spy on Chloe both there and later at the school without being noticed is another question. That and the fact that she always happened to be in the right place at the right time makes me think she was purposefully seeking Chloe out for some reason (though Episode 2 Rachel did seem a bit less creepy in that regard at least). Larryb fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Nov 2, 2017 |
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Canemacar posted:All band shirts are a rip off if you buy at the venue. Buh? Maybe for big bands in big venues (I'm looking at you, $30 NIN t-shirt in 2009) but for indie bands in indie venues (or even midsize venues) I've never paid more than $20 and usually $15. Even when I've seen Spiritualized in midsize theaters they only charged $15 per shirt (which is why I own six Spiritualized shirts). Also in the days of Spotify and Literally Nobody Ever Buying Albums, buying merch at a show is the best thing you can do to support a band.
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Still replaying Life Is Strange. Here's something I forgot to ask before: at the start of episode two, what's the deal with Victoria's voice? As she browbeats Courtney into doing her homework for her, it sounds like a completely different voice actress is performing that dialogue! How did that happen?
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Eshettar posted:Still replaying Life Is Strange. Here's something I forgot to ask before: at the start of episode two, what's the deal with Victoria's voice? As she browbeats Courtney into doing her homework for her, it sounds like a completely different voice actress is performing that dialogue! How did that happen? To be fair, some of them like the ones I mentioned actually do a pretty good job disguising their voices when playing somebody other than their main character. Others....not so much (Warren/Justin, Kate/Alyssa, Joyce/Homeless Woman). Pretty sure BtS doesn't have this issue though and had enough budget to hire a separate actor for each character. Larryb fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Nov 2, 2017 |
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precision posted:Buh? Maybe for big bands in big venues (I'm looking at you, $30 NIN t-shirt in 2009) but for indie bands in indie venues (or even midsize venues) I've never paid more than $20 and usually $15. Even when I've seen Spiritualized in midsize theaters they only charged $15 per shirt (which is why I own six Spiritualized shirts). I could maybe see $15 if I really liked the band and wanted to support them, but most band shirts I've seen have been made from the cheapest, thinnest fabric ever and usually half the logo comes off in the first wash.
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Canemacar posted:I could maybe see $15 if I really liked the band and wanted to support them, but most band shirts I've seen have been made from the cheapest, thinnest fabric ever and usually half the logo comes off in the first wash. I've found that to be true of "big" bands (I had two Sisters of Mercy shirts in the mid 90s that fell apart within months) but my shirts by bands like Mogwai have lasted an insanely long time.
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I love how you don't have cash for this shirt so you can destroy this dudes car, steal the shirt and steal his money. From that moment on I knew I was going to play Chloe as a complete rear end in a top hat at all times.
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Yeah, the only time I'm not a twat is when Rachel is around and I'm spilling my spaghetti everywhere.
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Unlike the first game where I agonized over decisions forever, Chloe is such an established character already that I have no trouble deciding what to do, which is usually the most reckless and gay thing imaginable.
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exquisite tea posted:Unlike the first game where I agonized over decisions forever, Chloe is such an established character already that I have no trouble deciding what to do, which is usually the most reckless and gay thing imaginable. Yeah, unlike Max who was kind of a blank slate (we learn more about Chloe and other Arcadia Bay residents than we ever do about the character we're actually playing as), the best way to play Chloe is to ask yourself "What would her natural reaction be in this situation?". Though going off the beaten path at times does lead to some interesting results. For example, initiating the Backtalk with Rachel's dad helps you learn a lot more about her parents (Rose is way too good for that family). Larryb fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Nov 2, 2017 |
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precision posted:Buh? Maybe for big bands in big venues (I'm looking at you, $30 NIN t-shirt in 2009) but for indie bands in indie venues (or even midsize venues) I've never paid more than $20 and usually $15. Even when I've seen Spiritualized in midsize theaters they only charged $15 per shirt (which is why I own six Spiritualized shirts). Slowdive shirts last Sunday for 30 bucks  . I didn’t know Slowdive was 30 dollar shirt band. Even Kraftwerk at the bowl was 20. A lot of bands don’t really sell their shirts out of concerts too.
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skooma512 posted:I didn’t know Slowdive was 30 dollar shirt band. Yeah that's kind of crazy. The dude in the band kind of turned into a moneygrubber in the 00s though, he released that solo album of really bad "adult contemporary" music
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