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precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Canemacar posted:

Not disagreeing. I just wanted to point out a detail I never noticed my first play through. Kate has some wine hidden behind her dresser in her dorm.

That's for when she's too busy studying to go take Communion at church :v:

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Canemacar
Mar 8, 2008

precision posted:

That's for when she's too busy studying to go take Communion at church :v:

I bet she gets holy as gently caress on Friday nights.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Kate Marsh is too pure for this world.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

exquisite tea posted:

Kate Marsh is too pure for this world.

It is kind of telling that saving Kate is one of the only major times Max tries to use her powers to help somebody without the universe punishing her for it later on (though in a sense it kind of does as depending on your choices in the principal's office afterwards it's possible for Max to wind up getting suspended).

Back on Chloe, it's kind of funny to think that if somebody had just gotten her some therapy or at least talked with her about her abandonment issues she probably never would have fallen as far as she did. As such it's possible that she never would have snuck out to see that concert at the mill (and as a result probably wouldn't have gotten mixed up with Rachel in the first place), never inadvertently started a wildfire (though that was more Rachel's fault that anything), never gotten kicked out of Blackwell, never gotten herself in debt with a drug dealer and therefore never would have confronted Nathan in the bathroom to begin with.

Thus, the storm never comes and Chloe's still around to tell the tale (of course, Rachel probably still would have disappeared and Jefferson and Nathan would still be an issue but nothing's perfect).

Larryb fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Nov 3, 2017

Canemacar
Mar 8, 2008

But then Chloe may never have had her Lesbian Awakening.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


You win some, you lose some.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Canemacar posted:

But then Chloe may never have had her Lesbian Awakening.

This game's never had the guts to commit to actual lesbian characters. Just varying flavors of bisexual you can skip over.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Chloe very much strikes me as the small town lesbian who wants/needs sex to deal, but due to it being a small town she's stuck mostly fooling around with guys as a less enjoyable means to an end.

But I'm probably projecting. Either way I think she can easily be read as a lesbian figuring things out/with few options, or as bisexual but prob more into chicks than dudes.

Max and Rachel are definitely bi.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


LiS would have been much worse if Max & Chloe's status was ever made explicit, the strength of their interaction comes from capturing the intense and often ambiguous relationships of youth. It doesn't take a whole lot of imagination to pick up what Chloe's putting down. FWIW I never saw Max & Chloe as romantically involved anyway, just as very close friends brought together more intimately through rather extraordinary circumstances.

BtS by contrast is extremely gay and not even trying to hide it.

Canemacar
Mar 8, 2008

Cythereal posted:

This game's never had the guts to commit to actual lesbian characters. Just varying flavors of bisexual you can skip over.

Steph is only into girls.

It's been deleted, but in that interview I posted earlier one of the questions was along the lines of season 1 playing it too safe with LGBT themes. Apparently it was something they took to heart and we're trying to do better about with BTS.

exquisite tea posted:

LiS would have been much worse if Max & Chloe's status was ever made explicit, the strength of their interaction comes from capturing the intense and often ambiguous relationships of youth. It doesn't take a whole lot of imagination to pick up what Chloe's putting down. FWIW I never saw Max & Chloe as romantically involved anyway, just as very close friends brought together more intimately through rather extraordinary circumstances.

BtS by contrast is extremely gay and not even trying to hide it.

I agree that the ambiguity between Max and Chloe was a strength in LiS. The whole season was a whirlwind (pun half intended) of events and emotions and that played into quite a bit.

IMO it could go either way. Chloe was definitely down, but Max probably still needs to figure herself out. I don't see her being interested in most women, but Chloe could be the exception.

Canemacar fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Nov 3, 2017

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Canemacar posted:

But then Chloe may never have had her Lesbian Awakening.

True, and given how this universe works something horrible probably would have happened regardless like her getting into an accident or becoming a target for Jefferson and/or Nathan and thus dying anyway.

As far as sexuality is concerned, while Rachel is definitely bi and Chloe probably is too but just tends to prefer girls, Max always struck me as just being more confused than anything else and outside of Chloe we don't really see a whole lot of other evidence that she's into girls that I can remember. It could honestly go either way in her case.

Larryb fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Nov 3, 2017

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
I think Chloe is intended to be bi based on the Blade Runner journal entry, where she explicitly refers to being attracted to people of both genders, but it's much more interesting if she's just Hella Gay.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




She's Hellasexual.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


esperterra posted:

She's Hellasexual.

:agreed:

Canemacar
Mar 8, 2008

Max: Selfie-sexual?

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

esperterra posted:

She's Hellasexual.

ahem:

precision posted:

Chloe is hellasexual

great minds indeed :j:

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

This may or may not be correct.

Canemacar posted:

Max: Selfie-sexual?

According to Victoria she's gofuckyourselfiesexual.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




precision posted:

ahem:


great minds indeed :j:

oh shi

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

I'm sort of curious now how the final endings for BtS are going to work as since I believe they said before that they're not going to screw with the established canon that much. This would mean that all the endings would technically have to be able to lead into the first game which makes me wonder how they're going to make them unique from each other when there's only so far they can go.

Though if it's true that there's going to be variations on them depending on your choices throughout the game that'd probably make it worth replaying a few times if only to see how many possible combinations you could get.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

precision posted:

I think Chloe is intended to be bi based on the Blade Runner journal entry, where she explicitly refers to being attracted to people of both genders, but it's much more interesting if she's just Hella Gay.

It's too bad she won't live, but then again who does?

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Where the gay boys

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Tired Moritz posted:

Where the gay boys

For some reason all the men in this series seem to be straight, maybe we'll get some in LiS 2 though.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




If LiS2 is indeed going to be gay af like 1, I hope we play a dude.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
I hope it's not a hipster then. Male hipsters are way less cute.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Or at least if the game has a hipster tone, you aren't playing one.

I'd like to see them do a game with male protagonist anyway. I think they pulled off Max well and LiS' main characters were mostly women. Could be fun, especially if they plan on keeping up the gay.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Larryb posted:

For some reason all the men in this series seem to be straight, maybe we'll get some in LiS 2 though.

i dunno Evan makes my gaydar go beep beep

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
which one is Evan?

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Larryb posted:

I'm sort of curious now how the final endings for BtS are going to work as since I believe they said before that they're not going to screw with the established canon that much. This would mean that all the endings would technically have to be able to lead into the first game which makes me wonder how they're going to make them unique from each other when there's only so far they can go.

Though if it's true that there's going to be variations on them depending on your choices throughout the game that'd probably make it worth replaying a few times if only to see how many possible combinations you could get.

In that now-deleted interview, the writer dude said there will again be an agonizing binary decision at the end, but previous choices throughout the game would be reflected in the finale. The end choice would "define Chloe and Rachel's relationship" although he went onto say it wouldn't be like "be my girlfriend y/n". Who knows how legitimate it is but everything in BtS so far has played into all the prior conditions for Life is Strange, even if they do mess with the exact sequence of events.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

exquisite tea posted:

In that now-deleted interview, the writer dude said there will again be an agonizing binary decision at the end, but previous choices throughout the game would be reflected in the finale. The end choice would "define Chloe and Rachel's relationship" although he went onto say it wouldn't be like "be my girlfriend y/n". Who knows how legitimate it is but everything in BtS so far has played into all the prior conditions for Life is Strange, even if they do mess with the exact sequence of events.

I'm still hoping for one last epic Backtalk session leading up to it though (possibly taking place in the middle of the wildfire). If it's not something like "be my girlfriend" I wonder what it could be then, whether or not to blame Rachel for the fire? Something to do with her family perhaps? Like I said, no matter what you choose the ending still has to be able to tie into Life is Strange somehow. It'll be interesting to see how they manage to pull it off (not to mention being able to wrap up everything they need to in just one episode).

I also hope the ending song is something just as fitting as Spanish Sahara/Obstacles was in the original (though given the quality of the soundtrack so far I'd say that's a pretty safe bet), I still say Numbers from the original trailer would be a good fit though.

Tired Moritz posted:

which one is Evan?

He's the weird, slightly condescending guy with glasses who asks Chloe to sign a petition about fire safety in BtS Episode 1 and quizzes Max for the right to look through his portfolio in Life is Strange.

Larryb fucked around with this message at 13:22 on Nov 4, 2017

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


I'm gonna predict Rachel's role in starting the fire will be discovered somehow, James Amber will help cover it up in return for Rachel coming back down from her lesbian runaway fantasy, and Chloe will be tested on how much of a Ryde or D1e bitch she truly is.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

exquisite tea posted:

I'm gonna predict Rachel's role in starting the fire will be discovered somehow, James Amber will help cover it up in return for Rachel coming back down from her lesbian runaway fantasy, and Chloe will be tested on how much of a Ryde or D1e bitch she truly is.

That'd make sense. As the quote the title is based on implies I'm guessing that the finale will be about Chloe and Rachel cementing their relationship as well as dealing with "devils" both real (Sera, Damon, possibly Eliot if that now deleted article is to be believed) and metaphorical (the Raven, their own personal fears and insecurities), though Chloe can't exactly conquer the latter here as if anything she's even more of a mess come the original game. So eventually diving back into Hell (the fire) would be appropriate as well. Since the first two episodes seem to be focusing on it a lot (hell, it's still burning by the time Episode 2 ends) it's pretty obvious that the wildfire is going to be our "storm" for this game, though probably not quite as destructive.

Either way, I don't see this ending on that happy a note and anything good that does happen is going to be bittersweet at best since we know where these characters are going to ultimately end up, though it probably won't be quite as bleak as the original was either. I wonder if there's going to be some kind of montage at the end setting the stage for the first game (like David seeing an ad for a security guard position at Blackwell, Wells in his office interviewing Jefferson, a blue haired Chloe standing outside the school, etc.)

Also, as I believe Max mentions the Doe during an optional conversation with Samuel in the first game I wonder if Chloe is ever going to talk about the Raven she keeps seeing to anyone as well. So far the only time she's ever seemed to acknowledge it directly was during the second dream when it appears to her for the first time ("Why are you crying sweetheart?", "Because you're not real")

Larryb fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Nov 4, 2017

Canemacar
Mar 8, 2008

PunkBoy
Aug 22, 2008

You wanna get through this?
Give me a desktop wallpaper version of that, holy poo poo.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




quote:

Arcadia Bae

art

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Someone do a crossover with Chloe in the raven costume + Senua titled HELLABLADE, thanks in advance.

Eshettar
May 9, 2013

*whispers*

yospos, bithc

Seconded.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

exquisite tea posted:

Someone do a crossover with Chloe in the raven costume + Senua titled HELLABLADE, thanks in advance.

When you do a Perfect Parry, Chloe insults the enemy and they disappear in shame.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


They say the dankest ganj is smoked in the mind.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Life is Strange: Fighting Edition (or possibly Life is Pain). Chloe can temporarily stun opponents with a well-timed insult (but is twice as vulnerable to ranged attacks) while Max can negate one attack with her Rewind at the cost of some stamina.

Summonable Raven, Deer and Butterfly assists would be available for Chloe, Rachel and Max respectively and Hawt Dawg Man is an unlockable fighter.

Larryb fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Nov 13, 2017

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LoseHound
Nov 10, 2012
Chloe's victory taunt would be her spinning a gun on her finger. She blasts herself in the chest and crumples to the ground. Cue Spanish Sahara.

Fatality.

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