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LoseHound posted:After playing BtS I thought back to Chloe's wake'n'bake in season 1 and just wondered what kind of Press Space to Skip monologue was going through her head. Seeing Chloe have the sort of introspective moments Max did made her character more interesting to me. Going back to the "tough girl Chloe is an act" thing, one bit of Chloe character that I love is that she's secretly an enormous goober. She dyes her hair blue because of manga and sci-fi and she has a corny sense of humor. god bless this dead gay nerd. Yeah, Chloe's about as much of a dork as Max is if not more so (we see this in the first game as well), it's pretty easy to see how the two of them were friends. As for the Sera thing, out of the three of them I think Ruth probably would have been a better choice considering her character and backstory but the name Sera fits with the whole fire motif they've got going on while Vanessa matches the character design (it's also the name of Max's mom).
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Macaluso posted:I’m pretty sure she dyes her hair blue to match Rachel’s earring. At least the first time. She is a total dork though In season 1 Chloe mentions wanting to have colored bangs like Pris from Blade Runner and I think when you jump back to the day William dies you can find a generic MANGA book with a character that has current Chloe's hairstyle. It's pretty great. Larryb posted:([genus of butterflies] is the name of Max's mom). gently caress me as for the first game, I think Chloe's top 3 goober moments are when she does her "pretty please~" pose in the junkyard, when she says "have a seat pete!" if you take the heat for the joint, and when she shoots her own dumb rear end.
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LoseHound posted:In season 1 Chloe mentions wanting to have colored bangs like Pris from Blade Runner and I think when you jump back to the day William dies you can find a generic MANGA book with a character that has current Chloe's hairstyle. It's pretty great. This one is up there for me as well: "BOOYA! Get it, "boo-ya"? Like I'm a, scary punk ghost?" It's about as awkward a joke as any of the ones from her dinner with the Ambers anyway. Personally I think that awkwardness is what makes her so endearing as a character (plus, unless it's around somebody she hates she's really bad at hiding it. Not to mention the fact that people like Rachel and Samuel can see right through her). Underneath the foul mouth, drug use and mischief she's actually a pretty decent person at heart (hell, compared to a few of the more seemingly law-abiding residents of Arcadia Bay the girl is practically a saint). If you want to see the mask she wears without any trace of the real Chloe underneath it look at Damon (much like how James is Rachel minus the free spirit and any of her redeeming qualities and Jefferson is basically Max without a conscience or morals), they all basically serve as dark mirrors of each girl's worst traits. Larryb fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Dec 30, 2017 |
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precision posted:Would you say she's adorkable Max might still have her beat in that category but she's pretty drat close. Larryb fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Dec 30, 2017 |
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No joke. I have identified with Max more than any other video game character. And I've been playing video games since I was 5 years old. What does that say about me?
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Eshettar posted:So apparently lots of content was scrapped from Episode Three after beta-testing. If even half of this is for real, it means that Rachel was supposed to accompany Chloe during the search for Sera rather than get knifed and hospitalized. holy poo poo that blog quote:Shaya - 22 - before the storm is the only canon and life is strange never happens. quote:Y’all know Chloe didn’t put that outfit or that makeup on herself. Rachel 100% helped Chloe put glitter on her cleavage and the fact that we were deprived of that scene is homophobic. quote:Even if the beta testers were somehow lying and coincidentally managed to get insanely weird details correct, their fake episode 3 was better than the real one, and I’m pretending this is the version we actually got. LIS fans outdo even Star Wars fans in the "hate what they're a fan of" category.
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Karpaw posted:holy poo poo that blog I am pretty sure all of those comments are in jest my dude. Canemacar posted:No joke. I have identified with Max more than any other video game character. And I've been playing video games since I was 5 years old. What does that say about me? Not sure yet. What are your opinions re: Final Finatasy: Spirits Within?
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Canemacar posted:The Spirits Within was trash. As a nerd, I was embarrassed on Max's behalf for such shameful taste. Was there a reason for that random plug? It always seemed like a weird line to just throw in there. Off the subject but thinking it over, even in death Chloe kind of gets the short end of the stick. Her dad gets to come back as a cool raven, Rachel a majestic doe and she's stuck as a butterfly (though it is still fitting in a sense). Speaking of which, there's a neat detail I noticed replaying the first game recently. If you look at the butterfly before taking the photo in Episode 1 Max comments how it almost seems like a spirit.
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Larryb posted:Was there a reason for that random plug? It always seemed like a weird line to just throw in there. Square Enix published the game
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Larryb posted:Was there a reason for that random plug? It always seemed like a weird line to just throw in there. It's not that random. That's one of the best sci-fi films ever made.
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It's not just a shameless plug either, Michel Koch is a huge fan of The Spirits Within.
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exquisite tea posted:It's not just a shameless plug either, Michel Koch is a huge fan of The Spirits Within. That makes sense, it just seemed odd to me since there are no other references to Square properties in the game, or at least none that I picked up on anyway. Blade Runner gets referenced a bit in both games as well but at least that's consistent. Though to be honest I don't think I ever bothered watching Spirits Within, is it quite as bad as the majority seems to think it is? Larryb fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Dec 31, 2017 |
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LoseHound posted:I am pretty sure all of those comments are in jest my dude. Some LiS fans are completely insane, this is from reddit today: quote:I do not know why I'm writing this, maybe I would like that the developers understand how awful the Max fans and Pricefield feel after the prequel, I'd like that they would notice it, although I think that they know about it, but no comments on this there was no occasion, apparently they do not care. You can call it whining but I do not understand why Deck Nine and the Rachel / Amberprice fans mock and humiliate the Max / Pricefield fans. New developers have destroyed Pricefield and now, along with fans of Rachel / Amberprice continue to mock his corpse, down to the wishes of Max's death because she's poo poo and Rachel is Chloe's true love. Since the release of the first episode of the original game, I have not seen as much poo poo in this fandom as in the last four months, Rachel's fans have flooded this poo poo with literally everyone, even DontNod developers for creating Rachel and making her the dark side of the identity that Deck Nine and Rachel's fans are trying to ignore. In the prequel we got the idealization of Rachel's character and the manipulation of the developers with which they made most players hate Max. I call this manipulation because Deck Nine, by violating the canon, came up with the fact that Chloe was trying to contact Max but she ignored it, but in the original there is not a word about it, neither from Max, nor from Chloe, nothing. In such a situation, any person would say such an important thing, especially Chloe, and if Max ignored her then she also had to write about it in her diary, but that's nothing. All this was invented by Deck Nine to make Max bad and maximize Rachel above it. That's what happened in the end, everyone loves the perfect Rachel and hate Max, and it's like it's not a canon and people do not really think about how Max lived the last five years. She no longer had such close friends as Chloe, and I'm sure Max has been depressed all this time. The feeling of guilt before Chloe made her insecure in herself a gray mouse, but still she remained the same. For fans of Rachel it does not matter, Max is still bad and in their opinion is worthy of all humiliation and death. I also do not understand why the Amberprice fans after they got so many romantic moments still remain unhappy. They received three episodes filled with romance and sweet moments, an excellent kiss, a good ending and several slides as an epilogue. The relationship between Chloe and Rachel is ideal, Rachel is the perfect character and on the images we see that they are doing well. What did the Pricefield fans get? Absolutely nothing that the fans of Amberprice got. In one episode, the prequel has more romance and sweet moments than in the entire original game. We never saw that Max or Chloe openly expressed their feelings, we did not even see how they behaved as a couple, not a single minute. What did we get as a result? Smack on the lips for a dispute in the third episode and a poo poo ending, which is shorter than the other for three minutes and does not tell us anything at all, as well as the player's choices in it do not make sense and after there is no epilogue. The ending with Chloe's death is done better, it goes on longer, it's more emotional, there's a new song in it, most players admit it. It seems that the developers did not care about the ending for Max and Chloe. Either we get a kiss and Chloe dies that immediately deprives this kiss of any meaning. Either Max and Chloe are just leaving and we do not get anything at all, in contrast to what the Amberprice fans got. It's absolutely not important that Rachel will die, because we all die once and only time spent together, Chloe and Rachel had this time, three years, and Max and Chloe have only five days, and then Chloe will die, or they they will leave but it is completely unknown what will happen next, maybe they will die the next day or a tornado will pursue them, anything. It does not work that argument that Max and Chloe can be together all their lives and so on. You probably will say that these are other developers, but I immediately answer that they are primarily people and also the fans of the original, they must understand the feelings of the players to try to make it more evenly, but what I saw in the prequel very upset me. Deck Nine how to spit on the fans of Pricefield and their feelings, the whole prequel looks like a big mockery and the hatred of Rachel's fans makes me feel awful. I had a feeling that Deck Nine just hates Max and mocks the fans of Pricefield. Why did they mention Max in the prequel? What is that Chloe's record in the diary about a kiss with Max? I thought this was what it meant, but at the end of Chloe, I just decided to forget about Max after three days of dating Rachel. I realized that you used this as manipulation to hate Max and it also works like a normal fan service for Max / Pricefield fans. Chloe missed Max for two years, but three days later she decided to forget about her, it only says that Max is not very important to her, Chloe just needs anyone, just not to be alone and when Max comes back, she's just another person on the way Chloe. That's what you were trying to say to the fans of Max / Pricefield who all this time loved their ship and thought Max was someone special for Chloe. Every moment in the prequel is directed precisely at that which would destroy both Max and Pricefield and I can say with confidence that Deck Nine did it. They destroyed what supported many people, what gave them strength and made them feel better. Since the release of the first episode of the prequel I and many other people feel terrible, it's really painful and very insulting. You probably will say that there will be an additional episode with Max, but I do not expect anything from those three episodes where Max was the object of hatred, the developers even hung it on the tree. The additional episode will not give anything new, as the entire prequel will be completely filled with the fan service and will not tell you anything new, just like the three episodes of the prequel did not tell anything new for those who carefully passed the original. Maybe Deck Nine will fulfill the dream of Rachel's fans and yet Max will save her and then go naughty, because that's what they want because Rachel is the true love of Chloe and Max is not worthy of it. I will not be surprised at all if this happens, it will be the end of all those bullying of Max / Pricefield fans. I do not know what else to say, except that thanks to all Max fans / Pricefield for this holiday gift, which makes us feel like poo poo. Thank you, you destroyed the little that we had. I'm sorry that I wrote so much but I feel terrible because of all this, thank you for reading all the happy holidays, I hope the fans of Rachel / Amberprice will be happy, and I just want to die. The moment came when I began to regret the fact that once I fell in love with Pricefield, he helped me to live all this time and now brings nothing but pain, as if the meaning of life is lost. I do not know if anyone will understand me but I just wanted to say it.
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Holy poo poo. Anyway, continuing my trek through the original game it's amazing that not only do the two games line up surprisingly well, but it actually helps you understand a few aspects of the plot a little better (Chloe's attitude in the beginning part of the game, why Frank seemed a bit more aggressive than he was in BtS, etc.). Any discrepancies in design or characterization can basically be summed up in a single sentence: A lot can change in 3 years. Hell, in BtS a lot changed in just 3 days. Speaking of which, is the design Chloe has on the seat of her truck in LiS even available for you to find in the junkyard in BtS Episode 2? In retrospect I actually like a few of the VAs in BtS better than the ones in the original, at least as far as minor characters go (Wells and Hayden for example) and a few others are either just as good (Victoria, Frank) or almost indistinguishable from each other (Joyce, Nathan). Burch is obviously still the better Chloe but DeVries makes for a good backup if necessary (she was probably at her best during Hell is Empty). In fact, I kind of hope a lot of the BtS cast manages to find work after this as a few of them have some genuine potential (Kylie Brown as Rachel for example). Larryb fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Jan 1, 2018 |
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exquisite tea posted:Some LiS fans are completely insane, this is from reddit today: 
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Larryb posted:Holy poo poo. I imagine she had to throw away the initial seat cover after Rachel bled all over it.
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Viridiant posted:I imagine she had to throw away the initial seat cover after Rachel bled all over it. Yeah, I was more just curious if it's actually possible to find that cover when you're sprucing up the truck during BtS Episode 2. By LiS the bulb on the roof is also gone and the hole in the floor has been properly repaired.
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exquisite tea posted:Some LiS fans are completely insane, this is from reddit today: I only got a few lines into that before my brain shut down out of self preservation. But I never got the impression that BtS or D9 was in any way hostile to Max. If anything it's the opposite. Between every journal entry being addressed to Max, the Raven dream referring to a "greater beauty" yet to come, and Chloe all but admitting to rubbing one out to a girl who looks just like Max I'd say D9 is all about the Pricefield ship.
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To me the most beautiful thing about the relationship between Chloe and Max in the first game was in its ambiguity, that it could have been just an intense friendship or something more. So the whole Pricefield movement that came after feels kind of... shallower in scope, I guess? Like most people will probably experience at least one romantic relationship in their lifetimes, but that sensation of being in a strong friendship where you're not entirely sure how the other one feels and yeah okay MAYBE you've made out a couple times is so uniquely high school that it whips me right back to when I was a teenager. I didn't have a problem with BtS being a lot more overt since that seemed obvious to me from the way Chloe talked about Rachel in season one.
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Canemacar posted:I only got a few lines into that before my brain shut down out of self preservation. But I never got the impression that BtS or D9 was in any way hostile to Max. I still think the "greater beauty" could also be referring to Chloe herself (she's the one who ultimately comes up with the plan to save everyone after all, but it's also possible for it to be referring to both of them). There's that entry in the second dream where she's hanging from a tree but I don't think you're really supposed to take that literally, Chloe's kind of passive-aggressive about Max abandoning her for so long but she never outright hates her. Notice during her meltdown in the junkyard that she never once says the words "gently caress Max", substituting "cameras" instead. She also mentions in Max's bio that if she ever came back Chloe would probably "take her back in a heartbeat", which she pretty much does. So yeah, I never really saw anything particularly anti-Max in BtS, we're just seeing the situation from Chloe's perspective (of course she'd be upset given everything we know about her). Speaking of which, I really like the final entry in BtS where Chloe is basically saying goodbye to Max saying she's going to stop trying to live in the past and start focusing on her new life with Rachel, it doesn't take obviously but it's still a nice sentiment (it's also the only entry where she doesn't use some kind of nickname for herself). Overall BtS had some problems (then again so did the first game) but it was still an enjoyable experience in the end. I look forward to the upcoming bonus episode and hope we get a chance to revisit some of these characters again one day. Larryb fucked around with this message at 13:30 on Jan 1, 2018 |
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exquisite tea posted:I didn't have a problem with BtS being a lot more overt since that seemed obvious to me from the way Chloe talked about Rachel in season one. I honestly couldn't imagine playing this game and choosing the friendship options. I was pretty surprised when I finished episode 1 to see how large the percentage of people it was that chose "a friendship" over "something more". The something more option obviously had way more but the friendship one was high enough still that I was like "that seems weird". It's a choice based game so I guess these kind of options have to be there, but it being a prequel and what we know about Chloe and how the general story goes in the prequel, the non-romantic options never really felt like options at all. Similar to how a lot of the choices felt like "the Chloe choice" and "the other choice". Which is fine with me, I just think it's interesting when I see how many people actually did the other route. I mean I guess you could play the first game and view it as an unrequited love thing but I really didn't see that at all. Larryb posted:Notice during her meltdown in the junkyard that she never once says the words "gently caress Max", substituting "cameras" instead. That scene is such a good emotionally charged scene. When it gets to her dad's car and the single "smash" option pops up and the music ramps up at that exact moment. It's so good.
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Macaluso posted:I honestly couldn't imagine playing this game and choosing the friendship options. I was pretty surprised when I finished episode 1 to see how large the percentage of people it was that chose "a friendship" over "something more". The something more option obviously had way more but the friendship one was high enough still that I was like "that seems weird". It's a choice based game so I guess these kind of options have to be there, but it being a prequel and what we know about Chloe and how the general story goes in the prequel, the non-romantic options never really felt like options at all. Similar to how a lot of the choices felt like "the Chloe choice" and "the other choice". Which is fine with me, I just think it's interesting when I see how many people actually did the other route. I mean I guess you could play the first game and view it as an unrequited love thing but I really didn't see that at all. Last I checked the split is almost identical to kissing Chloe from the first game, about 75/25. It's also one of those phenomena where a quarter of players obviously take the friendship option but almost every streamer online is doing a 100% thirstiness speedrun.
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Argue posted:Ok it's early 2018, is Farewell out yet It's still on the same release schedule as the previous 3 episode (8-10 weeks from each other) so I'd expect it either later this month or early February at the latest.
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For me the prequel just lacked a lot of the charm of the original and just felt like it veered way too much into typical teen love story territory. Also a lot of the stuff that's was happening/the way people acted didn't really feel right to me based on what I knew from the original game.
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Karpaw posted:Is this a map to that bottle (you know the one) in Out of Time? Oh ho ho, it's much darker than that. 
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Speaking of which I just finished a full chronological playthrough of both games and yeah, the scene where they find Rachel in the junkyard hits a lot harder when you recently spent three episodes getting to know her (in fact the knowledge from BtS actually makes the first game better overall in some respects). Ultimately I decided to sacrifice Chloe because she had a point, it isn't really fair to let an entire town die just to get rid of a few select assholes (plus it's kind of fitting that the girl who kind of helped inadvertently set this whole chain reaction in motion is also the one who helps finally break the cycle in the end). Plus, I went to the trouble of making sure that Kate as well as Frank and his dog lived so no sense in invalidating that. I also told Rachel the truth (and went out of my way to reunite her with Sera) at the end of BtS because it isn't fair to let her (and Chloe) live a lie just to preserve the illusion of a perfect family that never really existed in the first place while the guy responsible for all of this basically gets rewarded for his crimes. Larryb fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Jan 3, 2018 |
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exquisite tea posted:Oh ho ho, it's much darker than that. I don't see it.
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