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Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment



Grimey Drawer

Hello friends. I think this conversation has circled around enough times and doesn't seem to be making moves towards anything in particular. Let's drop it and talk about the thread's actual topic.

This is a polite way of telling you to stop discussing Dennis Quaid's dating life and whether or not his 26 year old significant other has any agency.

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Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

Colonel, there's no exposed breasts in these dark souls

Ok then can we change the thread to something like ďSexual Assault Accusations in HollywoodĒ so that people donít make these mistakes anymore? This felt extremely relevant to some of us and we made our positions about it clear and felt like the current title supported that, but if the thread should only be about actual assaults then letís not pretend itís a place for discussing other things.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang


Bust Rodd posted:

I feel like you can make whatever point youíre trying to make without resorting to calling a woman Ďhystericalí in a thread specifically about sexual assault.

Oh don't worry, your gender, of which I was unaware, had nothing to do with my choice of words.


Franchescanado posted:

Hello friends. I think this conversation has circled around enough times and doesn't seem to be making moves towards anything in particular. Let's drop it and talk about the thread's actual topic.

This is a polite way of telling you to stop discussing Dennis Quaid's dating life and whether or not his 26 year old significant other has any agency.

Cheers.

Alan Smithee
Jan 3, 2005


https://twitter.com/extratv/status/1187506830898909184

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1188087885628526592

https://twitter.com/stevewells11/status/1185792742552588288

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment



Grimey Drawer

Bust Rodd posted:

Ok then can we change the thread to something like ďSexual Assault Accusations in HollywoodĒ so that people donít make these mistakes anymore? This felt extremely relevant to some of us and we made our positions about it clear and felt like the current title supported that, but if the thread should only be about actual assaults then letís not pretend itís a place for discussing other things.

It's not a mistake. It is relevant. But the last few pages are just circling around the same talking points, plus some slapfights, people assuming gender, people making a lot of assumptions on strangers who are in a relationship with age disparity, there's a weird through-line of people that think someone in their mid-twenties doesn't have agency, etc.

It's all pretty ugly and there's a lot of toxicity being thrown around. So instead of throwing out a bunch of sixers, which I can still do, I'm giving everyone a chance to drop it and move on.

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.




https://twitter.com/EW/status/1188605621815402497?s=20

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!



Fun Shoe


Wow, look how our PC culture tanked Louis CK's career. He should be entitled to make a living!

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

Colonel, there's no exposed breasts in these dark souls

Cancelling doesnít even work against normal people. If youíre a piece of poo poo and all your victims call you out on Facebook, it usually just means that you move to a new city and stay off social media for a while and you can just continue being a shithead.

Hell in a big enough city like NYC you donít even have to move you can just start chilling in a different part of town.

Itís not at all surprising that something that canít even stop normal predators from victimizing people doesnít work on the ultra rich and famous.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!



If anyone was curious of Zieglerís resume for handling Matt Lauerís, entirely off the record, interview hereís a few of his more well known filings;

A documentary about Disney killing a 9/11 documentary at the behest of the Clintonís who were responsible for 9/11.

A documentary about the liberal mediaís choice in elevating Obama to the presidency and tearing down Palin.

A mini-doc about how Paterno didnít know anything about the charges against Sandusky and how Sandusky was an innocent man railroaded by the media.

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 8 hours!


The media loves the controversy of a comeback.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009


It's thankfully still just a fringe bit of awfulness, but the slow turn to try and line up Sandusky's abuse as a bunch of lies and recovered memories is stunning given how clear the case was. One of the times where reality just doesn't seem to matter to some people.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007



Parakeet vs. Phone posted:

It's thankfully still just a fringe bit of awfulness, but the slow turn to try and line up Sandusky's abuse as a bunch of lies and recovered memories is stunning given how clear the case was. One of the times where reality just doesn't seem to matter to some people.

the thing that really cracked the Larry Nassar case was detectives finding hard drives filled with child porn.

the sad thing with a lot of these cases is they rely on witness testimony and culturally until maybe very recently we're in a place where the first instinct is to dismiss victims especially when its a famous man. Even today if you say anything negative about Michael Jackson you'll get dogpiled by ardent fans with big copypastas about how he's the real victim. Same with Woody Allen.

Not sure if anyone has watched the netflix show Unbelievable which is based on a true story but its a really great depiction of the decision making process of a victim as well as a lot of process work in what it takes for the police to actually pursue a rapist.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005
:justflu:



Parakeet vs. Phone posted:

It's thankfully still just a fringe bit of awfulness, but the slow turn to try and line up Sandusky's abuse as a bunch of lies and recovered memories is stunning given how clear the case was. One of the times where reality just doesn't seem to matter to some people.

Reminder that one of his underage victims was bullied by staff and kids so much at his school he had to move.

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

I know it's crazy subjective and just different shades of brown in a turd sandwich, but for some reason, Lauer having a remote button at his desk to LOCK HIS OFFICE DOOR is one of the creepiest things I've ever heard of. It's just so directly transparent in its intent.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slśgt skal fÝlge slśgters gang




AlternateAccount posted:

I know it's crazy subjective and just different shades of brown in a turd sandwich, but for some reason, Lauer having a remote button at his desk to LOCK HIS OFFICE DOOR is one of the creepiest things I've ever heard of. It's just so directly transparent in its intent.

jfc, that's supervillain poo poo.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."




You only achieve supervillain status with the trap door alligator pit, but that'll cost you $15,000 extra.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Krankenstyle posted:

jfc, that's supervillain poo poo.

Ron Swanson had one in Parks and Rec. Though, to be fair, that was to keep people out, not in.

Alan Smithee
Jan 3, 2005


Only in a sitcom could a libertarian be a swell guy

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!


AlternateAccount posted:

I know it's crazy subjective and just different shades of brown in a turd sandwich, but for some reason, Lauer having a remote button at his desk to LOCK HIS OFFICE DOOR is one of the creepiest things I've ever heard of. It's just so directly transparent in its intent.

That at least gets a little blown out of proportion, it wasnít like he installed it himself, apparently it was standard for most offices in Rockefeller as an active shooter protection measure. It was just what he used it for that made it hosed up.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006




It's The Implication, except instead of comically inept it's just raw terrifying power.

Alan Smithee
Jan 3, 2005


Look every castle has a dungeon included itís just that

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

Colonel, there's no exposed breasts in these dark souls

Not to get too much into the mind of a serial pervert, but Lauerís was almost certainly there to keep people from barging in during his attacks, not to trap someone inside. Even if the door was locked, someone banging and screaming on the door from the inside was likely to draw attention.

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.




I think fire codes stop people from building doors that can't be opened from the inside.

Alan Smithee
Jan 3, 2005


I love that even don jr is getting in on the ďnbc badĒ circus since they are the reason his old man is president

Alan Smithee
Jan 3, 2005


https://twitter.com/GarbageApe/status/1189333247349657601

spacey: *does that side tilt thing with his head*

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"



David Simon interview about how misrepresented he thinks poor James Franco is.

this is really lovely "well if i didn't see it it didn't happen"-ing from someone i would have expected better from (although he kept working with Franco after those accusations came out, so maybe i shouldn't be so surprised)

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005





I bought tickets to a different event at a venue that is doing one of his shows and they sent out an email recently saying that they're adding another show because the first sold out.

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.




https://twitter.com/TheDweck/status/1187568084338429952?s=20

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

Colonel, there's no exposed breasts in these dark souls

muscles like this! posted:

I bought tickets to a different event at a venue that is doing one of his shows and they sent out an email recently saying that they're adding another show because the first sold out.

The issue is not that Louie is touring again, the issue is that people are paying to go see him.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"



muscles like this! posted:

I bought tickets to a different event at a venue that is doing one of his shows and they sent out an email recently saying that they're adding another show because the first sold out.

those crowds are gonna look like a trump rally, but with less women

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

Colonel, there's no exposed breasts in these dark souls

DC Murderverse posted:

those crowds are gonna look like a trump rally, but with less women

Every write up of these shows goes out of its way to say how itís almost always a dead split of men and women.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003



Jean-Luc Brunel (thought to have been assassinated) supposedly alive and now hiding somewhere in South America
https://www.thecut.com/2019/09/jean-luc-brunel-alleged-epstein-accomplice-found.html

Robert De Niro sued for 'verbally abusive' and 'sexually-charged' behavior
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/robert-niro-accused-verbally-abusive-sexually-charged-behavior-191741956--abc-news-celebrities.html

Freshman Rep. Katie Hill resigns amid allegations of affair with staffer
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/former-rep-katie-hills-father-pushes-prosecution-evil-031126579.html

McDonaldís CEO Steve Easterbrook ousted after relationship with employee
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/mcdonalds-ceo-steve-easterbrook-ousted-after-relationship-with-employee-2019-11-03

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.




Zogo posted:

Jean-Luc Brunel (thought to have been assassinated) supposedly alive and now hiding somewhere in South America
https://www.thecut.com/2019/09/jean-luc-brunel-alleged-epstein-accomplice-found.html


It's been an open secret he was an abusive rapist for over 30 loving years.

quote:

In 1987, American models who worked with Brunel went on 60 Minutes and described the abusive culture that Brunel allegedly fostered. In the episode, they say they were pressured into having sex with men out of fear that their career would suffer if they turned them down. Additionally, two of the featured women accused Brunel of drugging them; of those two, one said Brunel raped her while she was unconscious. (In an interview with the Daily Beast, Craig Pyes, who helped report the 60 Minutes episode, said more models than the ones who appeared on the episode spoke to him about assault they had allegedly suffered in Brunelís circle ó they just didnít want to come forward on television.) Brunel, who did not appear in the episode, denied the modelsí allegations against him.

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006



I wanna know what the CEO of McDonald's did that was so terrible that he knew he couldn't just ride out the news cycle.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

Colonel, there's no exposed breasts in these dark souls

Katie Hill didnít start a relationship with her staffer, she hired the woman she and her now ex-husband had been in a polycule with. Those are very, very different and the story is mostly relevant to the thread due to the incredibly sexist way the story has been reported and the specifically incorrect language being used. People keep reporting it as an affair, but no one involved is married.

Also the story broke because revenge porn was leaked (almost certainly by Hillís ex-Husband) and the GOP are passing that poo poo around like a nudie book in a 70ís treehouse sleepover. Itís totally hosed and super disgusting.

Bust Rodd fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Nov 4, 2019

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003



Bust Rodd posted:

Katie Hill didnít start a relationship with her staffer, she hired the woman she and her now ex-husband had been in a polycule with. Those are very, very different and the story is mostly relevant to the thread due to the incredibly sexist way the story has been reported and the specifically incorrect language being used. People keep reporting it as an affair, but no one involved is married.

Also the story broke because revenge porn was leaked (almost certainly by Hillís ex-Husband) and the GOP are passing that poo poo around like a nudie book in a 70ís treehouse sleepover. Itís totally hosed and super disgusting.

Yea, I've noticed a veritable kaleidoscope of takes on the whole event. Some takes being very thorny.

LionArcher
Mar 29, 2010




Zogo posted:

Yea, I've noticed a veritable kaleidoscope of takes on the whole event. Some takes being very thorny.

It felt very bi phobic, but I didnít love that she was somebody that worked for her. The fact that she hired her after the fact is somewhat better?

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.




LionArcher posted:

It felt very bi phobic, but I didnít love that she was somebody that worked for her. The fact that she hired her after the fact is somewhat better?

Probably half of all married elected officials have hired their spouse in some capacity, and every single one has hired close friends. The real tragedy is there's dozens of congress members who've slept with staff and it's public knowledge and they haven't resigned. She had to resign because there were photos.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

Colonel, there's no exposed breasts in these dark souls

I honestly donít have any problems hiring a personal friend to work on your campaign. Donít you want your campaign to be full of people who care about you and want you to succeed?

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SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo


College Slice

Katie Hill has admitted that it was an inappropriate relationship and she resigned ahead of an investigation by the House Ethics Committee.

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