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LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002


WeedlordGoku69 posted:

...eh?

you realize women are, generally speaking, hella into ripped dudes too, right

e: like you realize Jason Momoa is pretty much considered the hottest dude in hollywood right now, right? looking like that Rob Liefeld drawing of Captain America, but with a beard and long hair, is more or less The In Look for dudes right now
Okay, but that's not really the point considering women on the whole aren't making the decisions in Hollywood.

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WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


the only point i was trying to make there is that 300 is, at the bare minimum, an example of how male-gaze power fantasy can intersect with female-gaze sexual fantasy weirdly, if not an outright deliberate invocation of that intersection

it's ostensibly trying to make the Spartans into a male power fantasy, but it ends up sexually objectifying the living hell out of them in the process, in a way that basically everybody who's remotely into dudes noticed, and even most straight guys noted as the movie being "gay as hell"

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

Ask me about women's ~Science~


WeedlordGoku69 posted:

the only point i was trying to make there is that 300 is, at the bare minimum, an example of how male-gaze power fantasy can intersect with female-gaze sexual fantasy weirdly, if not an outright deliberate invocation of that intersection

it's ostensibly trying to make the Spartans into a male power fantasy, but it ends up sexually objectifying the living hell out of them in the process, in a way that basically everybody who's remotely into dudes noticed, and even most straight guys noted as the movie being "gay as hell"

Straight women just might have a different ideal of what's attractive than what male executives think it is. Did the whole Dad Bod thing pass you by? The male leads in rom coms (often made by women!) look different to the leads in action movies. The reason is the target audience. More men go to action movies - the male leads look that way because men want them to. There's a reason 300 is referred to as "gay as hell" - it's a man's vision of peak male attractiveness

I'm a straight woman. I can tell you that while Chris Evans as Captain America had female fans, Chris Evans in Knives Out had whole instagram accounts dedicated to the sweater looks alone. (Yes Rian Johnson is a dude but the costume designer was a woman and the clothing aesthetic is very Nancy Meyers)

KitConstantine fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Jul 11, 2020

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser



GoutPatrol posted:

Who knew that Nintendo staying far, far away from the Smash community would be one of their smartest moves?

Nintendo didn't come out completely clean. They've had events with some of these people as commentators in the past, and profile videos for competitors in the list that they've had to scrub videos from their channel

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




pentyne posted:

He was 14 and looked like he was 10.

She was 24.

Yeah it was already super hosed up then someone linked a video of him at some event and he looked like I did when I was in like fourth grade.

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.




I'm not going to look up video of him at 14 because it doesn't matter unless he looked much older than 14 and convincingly lied about his age. If he looked 25 and she knew he was 14 it would still be horrible.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




When I was 14 I was six feet tall and 160 pounds so it pretty wild seeing it.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


I think people are mostly just bringing it up because it makes it frankly even worse. Dude straight-up looked like a small child.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014


Hell Gem

WeedlordGoku69 posted:

I think people are mostly just bringing it up because it makes it frankly even worse. Dude straight-up looked like a small child.

Yeah I'm not saying it's right but even the crowd that is normally horrible about female-on-male sexual abuse was relatively quiet this time because one look at those photos and you can tell "Oh this woman is a pedophile".

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


Yeah, I should note I wouldn't be defending it even if he looked like a grown adult; it's just that, for me, how he looked then makes it go from "ew, gross, gently caress that person," to making me straight-up see red and want to spill blood.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

I just couldn't look at your old avatar anymore
Fucking nauseating!


mycot posted:

Yeah I'm not saying it's right but even the crowd that is normally horrible about female-on-male sexual abuse was relatively quiet this time because one look at those photos and you can tell "Oh this woman is a pedophile".

I haven't been following it too closely.

The accuser posted a note detailing it and it was her basically picking him as her plaything and convincing him it was all okay and making him promise to keep it secret until he turned 18.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009



Nap Ghost

Whoo-ee how about that Depp/Heard drama

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

I was tired of your red text


Pick posted:

Whoo-ee how about that Depp/Heard drama

I genuinely have lost the plot with this poo poo.

Was it that Heard accused him of abuse first, then he accused her of abuse, then he sued (is suing still?) some tabloid for calling him an abuser, and someone poo poo the bed???

I saw he wanted to fight Elon Musk because he thought Heard was loving him but I can't tell if he was just assuming or if she did.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009



Nap Ghost

She absolutely was.

The story is loving crazy top to bottom, but the audio recording does nooooot sound great for Heard.

Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"


Pillbug

Pick posted:

Whoo-ee how about that Depp/Heard drama

Did something new just happen?

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"


I think it was Heard who poo poo the bed. But yeah, the cuts on his hand and the audio are pretty damning.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009



Nap Ghost

The trial is in progress so yeah stuff is happening

Alan Smithee
Jan 3, 2005



Coffee And Pie posted:

I think it was Heard who poo poo the bed. But yeah, the cuts on his hand and the audio are pretty damning.

hope he didn't touch the poop

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




I'd attack my husband if he told me he burned through 650 million dollars and owed 100 million in taxes.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

Switches Set


https://twitter.com/mikesington/status/1280926756153651200?s=21

How do you do so much coke and drink so much whiskey you black out, yet you still leave all your lines of coke and your huge glass of whiskey completely untouched?

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012


Julius CSAR posted:

https://twitter.com/mikesington/status/1280926756153651200?s=21

How do you do so much coke and drink so much whiskey you black out, yet you still leave all your lines of coke and your huge glass of whiskey completely untouched?

I'm the Keith Richards CD.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible





Julius CSAR posted:

https://twitter.com/mikesington/status/1280926756153651200?s=21

How do you do so much coke and drink so much whiskey you black out, yet you still leave all your lines of coke and your huge glass of whiskey completely untouched?

Photo could've been taken before he started doing them?

Fargin Icehole
Feb 18, 2011

Pet me.


That looks like Yamcha on the right

Origami Dali
Jan 7, 2005

Get ready to fuck!
You fucker's fucker!
You fucker!


ngl I like that Depp brand drug box

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised




Groovelord Neato posted:

I'd attack my husband if he told me he burned through 650 million dollars and owed 100 million in taxes.

All he has to do is spend a couple days being the funny pirate again

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

ASK ME WHY THE HYUNDAI KONA IS THE GREATEST CAR ON GOD'S EARTH, I HAVE STRONG OPINIONS ON THIS SUBJECT


Isn't the meat and potatoes of the court case about who abused who? Great, the dude likes whiskey and coke, and I don't mean a mixed drink. Who gives a gently caress? I'm sure he's a fuckup, I'm certain he'd be a pain in the rear end to live with, but you don't get to abuse people who piss you off or frustrate you.

And, I mean, accusing someone who you abused of having substance abuse problems and saying you're the real victim... hmmm, where have I seen that before recently?

PT6A fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Jul 15, 2020

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

PT6A posted:

Isn't the meat and potatoes of the court case about who abused who? Great, the dude likes whiskey and coke, and I don't mean a mixed drink. Who gives a gently caress? I'm sure he's a fuckup, I'm certain he'd be a pain in the rear end to live with, but you don't get to abuse people who piss you off or frustrate you.

And, I mean, accusing someone who you abused of having substance abuse problems and saying you're the real victim... hmmm, where have I seen that before recently?

I've heard reference to a tape proving she abused him, but if it was posted at any point, I missed it. I've totally gotten lost in this story, and I don't know who has actually done what at this point, or who to believe.

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"


There’s probably more but this is what I heard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7twghzoI46w

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012



Kevin Connolly https://www.thedailybeast.com/entourage-star-kevin-connolly-accused-of-sexual-assault-i-want-it-to-be-known-that-he-is-dangerous

Alan Smithee
Jan 3, 2005



oh cool another meme candidate




quote:

However, Pierce’s career has also been dogged by allegations involving sexual misconduct. In 2000, he was accused by three former employees of providing them with drugs and pressuring them for sex when they were boys. Two years later, while staying at a Spanish villa with two business partners, Interpol conducted a raid and found guns, machetes, and child pornography on the property. Pierce also had a few run-ins with Jeffrey Epstein over the years.

Autechresaint
Jan 25, 2012



Gasp, you mean the least known member of DiCaprio's Pussy Posse is a sexual predator? I am shocked!

Alan Smithee
Jan 3, 2005



he's def the most "nice guy" of the entourage but just means he has something to prove. What a fucker

Pick
Jul 19, 2009



Nap Ghost

thrawn527 posted:

I've heard reference to a tape proving she abused him, but if it was posted at any point, I missed it. I've totally gotten lost in this story, and I don't know who has actually done what at this point, or who to believe.

You can do a search for it on YouTube, but there are also transcripts at this point. The one you seem to be referencing is the one that's on an airplane. It's pretty chilling.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe


Man, I normally hate to be all, "Well duh," but, I mean... *waves hates in Kevin Connolly's general direction*

Alan Smithee
Jan 3, 2005



Vinny Chase, gone before cancel culture

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

I was tired of your red text


PT6A posted:

Isn't the meat and potatoes of the court case about who abused who? Great, the dude likes whiskey and coke, and I don't mean a mixed drink. Who gives a gently caress? I'm sure he's a fuckup, I'm certain he'd be a pain in the rear end to live with, but you don't get to abuse people who piss you off or frustrate you.

And, I mean, accusing someone who you abused of having substance abuse problems and saying you're the real victim... hmmm, where have I seen that before recently?

I thought this was a libel case against a tabloid? Obviously I agree 'he's an addict' does not counter 'she abused me' but I think the strategy may be to say 'calling him abusive was fair, look what an addicted piece of poo poo he was around me do you really think he acted like a prince when he was that high?'. If it is a libel case I believe they just have to prove there was reasonable reason to believe what they were saying was truthful and not some plot to hurt his reputation.

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.




sexpig by night posted:

I thought this was a libel case against a tabloid? Obviously I agree 'he's an addict' does not counter 'she abused me' but I think the strategy may be to say 'calling him abusive was fair, look what an addicted piece of poo poo he was around me do you really think he acted like a prince when he was that high?'. If it is a libel case I believe they just have to prove there was reasonable reason to believe what they were saying was truthful and not some plot to hurt his reputation.

It's a British libel case, those are much easier to win than American ones but I don't know enough about them to know what the standards are.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

I just couldn't look at your old avatar anymore
Fucking nauseating!


Skwirl posted:

It's a British libel case, those are much easier to win than American ones but I don't know enough about them to know what the standards are.

Some pretty stringent standards like they have to have ironclad proof he was an abuser before publishing it.

The UK tabloids are a special kind of hosed up, they were the ones hacking people's voicemails and emails to get dirt, like hacking into Madeline McCann's parents and trawling for anything they could use for some gossip.

Peaceful Anarchy
Sep 18, 2005
sXe
I am the math man.



sexpig by night posted:

I thought this was a libel case against a tabloid? Obviously I agree 'he's an addict' does not counter 'she abused me' but I think the strategy may be to say 'calling him abusive was fair, look what an addicted piece of poo poo he was around me do you really think he acted like a prince when he was that high?'. If it is a libel case I believe they just have to prove there was reasonable reason to believe what they were saying was truthful and not some plot to hurt his reputation.
It's a UK libel case so I have no idea what the burden of proof is, but their laws are notoriously more restrictive of what you can say than the US. They have to prove a lot more than "we believed it."

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Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!


pentyne posted:

Some pretty stringent standards like they have to have ironclad proof he was an abuser before publishing it.

The UK tabloids are a special kind of hosed up, they were the ones hacking people's voicemails and emails to get dirt, like hacking into Madeline McCann's parents and trawling for anything they could use for some gossip.

The worst would be when they hacked into a missing girls phone, deleted some messages to make room in case anybody left a message with something juicy and then didn't say anything when the girls parents saw that someone was checking her phone and believed it was proof she was still alive. That was the Rupsrt Murdoch/Pierce Morgan shitshow.

Morgan is also one of the lead tabloid shitbirds targeting Meghan Markle. He claims , off the record to anyone that will listen, she was turning tricks and he was a frequent customer until he bought her services for a weekend for Prince Harry in exchange for an interview and she decided to trade up.

Macdeo Lurjtux fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Jul 15, 2020

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