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Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

PRESIDENT OF THE OFFICIAL BRENDAN FRASER FAN CLUB





JnnyThndrs posted:

She hosed over Bob Daisley(original bassist and chief songwriter for Ozzy’s band in the Rhoads era)even worse.

https://bobdaisley.com/interview/website

Yep! She rerecorded the drum and bass parts on the reissues so they got no royalties!

https://loudwire.com/mike-bordin-re-recording-drums-ozzy-osbourne-albums-f-ked-up/

hosed over Bill Ward who was one of the founders of Black Sabbath.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/bill-ward-sharon-osbourne-definitely-dislikes-me-and-she-has-for-a-long-long-time/

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Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012




Jesus

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006
I am an autistic asshole that is incapable of understanding anything that isn't face value. Please consider my disability when reading my posts.


I'm biased, but I think I'll trust the guy who's a qualified airline pilot, running a consultancy, and flew his own goddamn 747 around the world on the last tour, to a man who was famously incoherent even by the standards of reality TV and his wife, who is (notwithstanding the most recent allegations, even) the sort of vile person who would defend Piers Morgan.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007







Just awful

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land






Ozzy clearly found the Elixer of Life as I have no idea how he's still alive otherwise

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Ozzy clearly found the Elixer of Life as I have no idea how he's still alive otherwise

AKA money

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Vintersorg posted:

Yep! She rerecorded the drum and bass parts on the reissues so they got no royalties!

https://loudwire.com/mike-bordin-re-recording-drums-ozzy-osbourne-albums-f-ked-up/

hosed over Bill Ward who was one of the founders of Black Sabbath.

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/bill-ward-sharon-osbourne-definitely-dislikes-me-and-she-has-for-a-long-long-time/

I think I mixed up Daisley and Lee but it sounds like he got screwed too

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/jake-e-lee-ozzy-osbourne-writing-dispute/

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001

The four most over-rated things in life are champagne, lobster, anal sex and picnics. Oh, and that stupid children's book 'The Little Prince,' ugh.
:krad:


Yams Fan

All ya’ll talking about Polanski or Allen 25+ years ago remember there was no internet. The papers only announce his clearance, and past issues weren’t available without actual research. If there was enough talking about whatever bullshit was thrown into the wind people simply wouldn’t know. So you get a lot of people repeating what they heard. IMO that’s why they both had so many defenders until relatively recently when any idiot could find reality on the internet.

Also, goddamn now that I think about it the good friends in high school that talked about Polanski’s innocence, liked that Winger song 17, and knew all the details about Tracy Lord’s (underage) porn career were one guy, not multiple guys. Quite creeped out now.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

El Gallinero Gros posted:

I think I mixed up Daisley and Lee but it sounds like he got screwed too

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/jake-e-lee-ozzy-osbourne-writing-dispute/

Basically, the only songwriter/musician she wasn’t able to gently caress over was Lemmy, when he wrote half of No More Tears, including ‘Mama, I’m Coming Home’.

Why? Because he’s fuckin’ LEMMY. He wrote in his book that he made more money writing those songs than all the years in Motörhead up to that point.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012



Crossposting from the NFL thread

https://twitter.com/FOX26Houston/status/1372027451023499267

Alan Smithee
Jan 3, 2005



https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1371999997940666369?s=21

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011



Ultra Carp


This is real bad and is affecting me even more than I'd expect. A friend of mine made a documentary that features Stanley in a very small way and is frantically trying to remove him from it even though it's already mid-distribution. gently caress this guy, for real.

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.





https://twitter.com/_SpectreVision/status/1372369472703533056?s=20

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

Hic puer est





Good. gently caress that dude.

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.




Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Good. gently caress that dude.

Yeah, it took a couple days, but I think it's fine to take a couple days to investigate if you're actually investigating and not just paying someone to pretend to investigate while actually their main job is giving you plausible reasons to not fire someone.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

Hic puer est




Skwirl posted:

Yeah, it took a couple days, but I think it's fine to take a couple days to investigate if you're actually investigating and not just paying someone to pretend to investigate while actually their main job is giving you plausible reasons to not fire someone.

Agreed. I'm fine with these things taking time as long as stuff is really being done.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012




Great move

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012



https://twitter.com/TimesRadio/status/1372624617710440453?s=19

Sodomy Hussein
Oct 9, 2005



Richard Stanley is definitely a milkshake duck story to me, I was pleased to see him get something out and for it to be as good as it was.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

PRESIDENT OF THE OFFICIAL BRENDAN FRASER FAN CLUB






Jesus loving christ....

Like, I guess thank god he's not really the focal point of Call Me By Your Name but it just sullies it... what a fucker.

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

Ask me about women's ~Science~


Vintersorg posted:

Jesus loving christ....

Like, I guess thank god he's not really the focal point of Call Me By Your Name but it just sullies it... what a fucker.

There have been statements from a number of women that he was into hosed up poo poo and not above manipulating and pressuring them to get it, along with fantasies about *super* hosed up poo poo.

But that appears to be a family trait. Vanity Fair has a good article going into the history. https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/03/the-fall-of-armie-hammer-a-family-saga-of-sex-money-drugs-and-betrayal

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.




As a handsome but forgettable actor would he have ever hitten the big leagues if he was better at hiding his crime?

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser




He's been the lead in a few tentpole movies that flopped, I don't think he was going to go any farther than he was.

Alan Smithee
Jan 3, 2005



yeah he was like a minor league chris pratt/evans/hemsworth/pines

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013



Dude was almost Batman in the George Miller justice league movie

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

CelticPredator posted:

Dude was almost Batman in the George Miller justice league movie

But he never was. That's important. Lots of people in Hollywood are "almost" lots of things.

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.




CelticPredator posted:

Dude was almost Batman in the George Miller justice league movie

Kurt Russel was almost Han Solo

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012


And Will Smith was almost Neo.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013



I just found it interesting and funny.

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

Ask me about women's ~Science~


CelticPredator posted:

I just found it interesting and funny.

He was also just accused of rape so not all that funny really

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013



John Wick of Dogs posted:

He's been the lead in a few tentpole movies that flopped, I don't think he was going to go any farther than he was.

This is why I said he was almost Batman. Because he almost was a bigger actor.

Sorry didn’t quote it

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004

MAGA FAN #1


Inspector Gesicht posted:

As a handsome but forgettable actor would he have ever hitten the big leagues if he was better at hiding his crime?

He's also tall.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010


Hollywood's endless supply of very tall, handsome, slightly charismatic but fundamentally forgettable white guys makes the claims of 'how are we supposed to find a cast member of X ethnicity?' much funnier. I remember when Expanse was casting it's second season, and there was a lot of 'where are they going to find a tall, muscular, polynesian actress?'

fuckin' polynesia, dipshit.

Sodomy Hussein posted:

Richard Stanley is definitely a milkshake duck story to me, I was pleased to see him get something out and for it to be as good as it was.

This story has been the first one to really bum me out due to who it affected (they're all depressing stories, obviously) Stanley had such a surprising comeback story. And it turns out he's a loving monster. gently caress that guy.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006
I am an autistic asshole that is incapable of understanding anything that isn't face value. Please consider my disability when reading my posts.

Snowman_McK posted:

Hollywood's endless supply of very tall, handsome, slightly charismatic but fundamentally forgettable white guys makes the claims of 'how are we supposed to find a cast member of X ethnicity?' much funnier. I remember when Expanse was casting it's second season, and there was a lot of 'where are they going to find a tall, muscular, polynesian actress?'

fuckin' polynesia, dipshit.

I recall when Roma was being heavily critically acclaimed there were a bunch of established Mexican actresses of European descent bitching that Yalitza Aparicio wasn't even a real actress and all that sort of classist, racist bullshit.

I won't say anyone can be an actor, but at the same time it's not the sort of thing you need 12 years experience and a master's degree to do. And before anyone says, "well the true mark of an actor is versatility, and the ability to perform multiple different roles," that's not entirely wrong, but look at how many famous actors only ever play one character with minor variations. And that very much seems to favour white men.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010


PT6A posted:

I recall when Roma was being heavily critically acclaimed there were a bunch of established Mexican actresses of European descent bitching that Yalitza Aparicio wasn't even a real actress and all that sort of classist, racist bullshit.

I won't say anyone can be an actor, but at the same time it's not the sort of thing you need 12 years experience and a master's degree to do. And before anyone says, "well the true mark of an actor is versatility, and the ability to perform multiple different roles," that's not entirely wrong, but look at how many famous actors only ever play one character with minor variations. And that very much seems to favour white men.

I do remember that. My wife was quite involved in that conversation since she's a Mexican woman of indigenous decent. She was overjoyed and felt represented.

inferis
Dec 30, 2003




Don’t ever forget that Gloria Allred is the mother of one of Weinstein’s lawyers.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

Hic puer est




Snowman_McK posted:

This story has been the first one to really bum me out due to who it affected (they're all depressing stories, obviously) Stanley had such a surprising comeback story. And it turns out he's a loving monster. gently caress that guy.

It does indeed feel lovely to have cheered on someone who ended up being awful. It creates this weird feeling of guilt by association, even if you never actually knew the person and there's no way you could have known what was going on.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised




Space Cadet Omoly posted:

It does indeed feel lovely to have cheered on someone who ended up being awful. It creates this weird feeling of guilt by association, even if you never actually knew the person and there's no way you could have known what was going on.

I feel like that's part of the reason you get so much awful doubling down from people trying to drown out their guilt.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

Hic puer est




Ghost Leviathan posted:

I feel like that's part of the reason you get so much awful doubling down from people trying to drown out their guilt.

Oh that's absolutely a part of it. Denial feels good and accepting the truth feels bad so often people dive head first into denial when confronted with an unpleasant reality. Avoiding negative emotions is easier than going through the work of processing them, even though long term that's what's healthier.

I think a lot of that comes from a lack of emotional intelligence, and I don't mean that as an insult. People are for the most part not taught how to deal with their feelings, which creates a lot of serious problems when people lash out or react in destructive ways to negative experiences because they don't know appropriate was to handle what they're going through. Like, I'm not trying to excuse those kind of behaviors, just explain why they happen.

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porfiria
Dec 10, 2008


inferis posted:

Don’t ever forget that Gloria Allred is the mother of one of Weinstein’s lawyers.

This seems like the kind of thing I'm going to forget in 20 or 30 minutes.

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