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El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



So I was reading Rabin's review of that Rodney Dangerfield movie Ladybugs and apparently the lead got some interest when she did 3:10 to Yuma from a creepy blogger, and James Mangold ratted him out instead of obliging his request

http://deadline.com/2007/09/creepiest-email-from-a-blogger-to-hollywood-3216/

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Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!



El Gallinero Gros posted:

So I was reading Rabin's review of that Rodney Dangerfield movie Ladybugs and apparently the lead got some interest when she did 3:10 to Yuma from a creepy blogger, and James Mangold ratted him out instead of obliging his request

http://deadline.com/2007/09/creepiest-email-from-a-blogger-to-hollywood-3216/

I don't know what's worse, the initial email or his diatribe at Nikki Finke saying, "Uh, yeah, I wanted it for my spank bank, deal with it."

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser



Sounds like he forgot the difference between real life and the comments section of r/watchitfortheplot

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



Timby posted:

I don't know what's worse, the initial email or his diatribe at Nikki Finke saying, "Uh, yeah, I wanted it for my spank bank, deal with it."

What makes it extra creepy for me is that he uses the cowboy slang, that means he had time to think about what he was going to say, and saw nothing wrong with it

davidspackage
May 16, 2007



Nap Ghost

Al Borland Corp. posted:

Sounds like he forgot the difference between real life and the comments section of r/watchitfortheplot

It's loving inconceivable to me that someone'd be so blasé about their grossness that they'd email a director to hook them up with some illicit nude shots from their movie set. Like, please run headfirst into a fist a few times, my dude.

-Blackadder-
Jan 2, 2007

Game....Blouses.


That guy must not be familiar with how things work in Hollywood. He should've given the movie a better review before asking for softcore outtakes. Lukewarm just doesn't cut it "pardner"!

davidspackage posted:

It's loving inconceivable to me that someone'd be so blase; about their grossness that they'd email a director to hook them up with some illicit nude shots from their movie set. Like, please run headfirst into a fist a few times, my dude.
Lmao, that email wasn't even a drop in the bucket of hollywood blase grossness, directors routinely receive unsolicited actual nude shots from practically half the town.

Apparently that guy has quite the history of being a real winner.

-Blackadder- fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Jan 31, 2018

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



-Blackadder- posted:

That guy must not be familiar with how things work in Hollywood. He should've given the movie a better review before asking for softcore outtakes. Lukewarm just doesn't cut it "pardner"!

Lmao, that email wasn't even a drop in the bucket of hollywood blase grossness, directors routinely receive unsolicited actual nude shots from practically half the town.

Well sure, that's why Joe Eszterhaus got to write Basic Instinct, his nudes are quite striking.

sleep with the vicious
Apr 2, 2010


I'm the guy who is shocked by all the pedophiles and sex monsters in Hollywood

Not Denzel! Not the pivdawg! Noo.

Edit: for actual content. I'm curious how deep it goes. My bet is the majority of Hollywood directors and producers have at minimum sexually harassed someone.

GonSmithe
Apr 25, 2010

Perhaps it's in the nature of television. Just waves in space.


sleep with the vicious posted:

I'm the guy who is shocked by all the pedophiles and sex monsters in Hollywood

Not Denzel! Not the pivdawg! Noo.

Edit: for actual content. I'm curious how deep it goes. My bet is the majority of Hollywood directors and producers have at minimum sexually harassed someone.
Literally, literally, no one is surprised by Jeremy Piven. Not a single human being.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010
ASK ME ABOUT MY SELF-PUBLISHED WARHAMMER FANFICTION AND MY KNIFE COLLECTION


I vaguely remember a story about Christina Ricci sending nude photos to some director. I'm also now wondering if that was a smear campaign to make her look 'unstable' and justify working with her less. I mean, her high profile work rate has tapered of dramatically.

I'm more surprised that there's someone out there who thinks 'pivdog' is a good nickname.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!



I mean, I thought I was pretty jaded when it came to the dark side of Hollywood, but what I guess I didn’t appreciate pre-Weinstein was how blatant it was. I foolishly believed that the sex-chuds were able to operate for so long because they stuck to the dark. But then read insane poo poo like Jeff Wells telling James Mangold “hey, I didn’t like your movie, but howsabout you slide me dem nudes,” and it’s just like, oh no, this kind of fuckery was on show in the goddamn lobby

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010
ASK ME ABOUT MY SELF-PUBLISHED WARHAMMER FANFICTION AND MY KNIFE COLLECTION


Fart City posted:

I mean, I thought I was pretty jaded when it came to the dark side of Hollywood, but what I guess I didn’t appreciate pre-Weinstein was how blatant it was. I foolishly believed that the sex-chuds were able to operate for so long because they stuck to the dark. But then read insane poo poo like Jeff Wells telling James Mangold “hey, I didn’t like your movie, but howsabout you slide me dem nudes,” and it’s just like, oh no, this kind of fuckery was on show in the goddamn lobby

It's an industry that thrives on young flesh. It was going to be bad.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!



Snowman_McK posted:

I vaguely remember a story about Christina Ricci sending nude photos to some director. I'm also now wondering if that was a smear campaign to make her look 'unstable' and justify working with her less. I mean, her high profile work rate has tapered of dramatically.

I'm more surprised that there's someone out there who thinks 'pivdog' is a good nickname.

Ricci has been focused on raising her son.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010
ASK ME ABOUT MY SELF-PUBLISHED WARHAMMER FANFICTION AND MY KNIFE COLLECTION


Timby posted:

Ricci has been focused on raising her son.

That was 2014, her work has been steadily tapering off since the early 2000s, and the 'sending nudes' story came about in 2006 or so.

-Blackadder-
Jan 2, 2007

Game....Blouses.


Ricci doesn't seem like the type to do that, if for no other reason than she's been acting since she was a kid and already had a career, even if it did have its ups and downs.

The whole Quid Pro Quo/Casting Couch thing Ian McKellan referenced was more about the industry standard of new actors, who are just getting started in the business, offering directors sexual favors for parts.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



It wouldn't surprise me if the sending nudes was something her dad suggested since her dad was super-involved in her career to the point of costing her work by being too overbearing, and apparently was also a bit of a creep himself.

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.


El Gallinero Gros posted:

It wouldn't surprise me if the sending nudes was something her dad suggested since her dad was super-involved in her career to the point of costing her work by being too overbearing, and apparently was also a bit of a creep himself.

I thought that was Thor Birch's dad?

Not that I'd be surprised if there were two child actors with weirdo parents.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



LesterGroans posted:

I thought that was Thor Birch's dad?

Not that I'd be surprised if there were two child actors with weirdo parents.

....poo poo, I might have mixed them up.


Fake edit: Yep, I did. Disregard previous statement. http://www.wetpaint.com/what-happened-thora-birch-creepy-598751/

Apologies to Mr.Ricci, who is a probably a nice man and is apparently a primal scream therapist.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back






Yeah, Thora Birch is the one with the overbearing pornstar parents.

I miss Thora Birch.

WillyTheNewGuy
Feb 16, 2005

HOPE has a posse

esperterra posted:

Yeah, Thora Birch is the one with the overbearing pornstar parents.

I miss Thora Birch.

Well lucky for you she has two films coming out this year. Above Suspicion, and The Etruscan Smile.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

ASK ME WHY THE HYUNDAI KONA IS THE GREATEST CAR ON GOD'S EARTH, I HAVE STRONG OPINIONS ON THIS SUBJECT


STAC Goat posted:

And I don't see feet as sexual so I kind of don't know how to determine whether contextless pictures of feet are sexual in nature. Like I'm open to the idea that they might be sexual to a foot fetishist but without some context that I recognize as sexual I don't see how we tell the difference between sexual feet and just feet.

I suppose it's like nude images of minors -- they aren't always child pornography -- for example, the cover of Nirvana's Nevermind -- but if you were to have a collection of otherwise non-sexual images, with no common thread between them other than containing nude children, it's loving gross and weird. Or the weirdos on reddit who were collecting images of teenagers that were meant to be non-sexual, but were clearly collected for sexual reasons.

Asking kids to write things on their feet and send pictures is way past the line for "creepy" even if it's not technically a crime.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005





DC Murderverse posted:

i'm not saying i feel sorry for him (there is a sort of tragic element to that compulsion, though actually acting on it really removes a lot of the potential for redemption), i'm explaining why someone in that position might pick suicide as a way out rather than having to live with that

I misunderstood you then, sorry for saying you should gently caress off.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010
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-Blackadder- posted:

Ricci doesn't seem like the type to do that, if for no other reason than she's been acting since she was a kid and already had a career, even if it did have its ups and downs.

The whole Quid Pro Quo/Casting Couch thing Ian McKellan referenced was more about the industry standard of new actors, who are just getting started in the business, offering directors sexual favors for parts.

Exactly. I remember the story really clearly though. It came out when I used to read 'WWTDD.com' because I was young and thought that was a good thing to do. It just strikes me, in retrospect, as exactly the sort of story that paints an actress as 'eccentric' and justifies not working with her.

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.


Things got a little awkward with Rose McGowan recently. There was the odd Colbert interview and then the same day there was this: http://variety.com/2018/scene/vpage/rose-mcgowan-meltdown-barnes-and-noble-book-signing-1202684004

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




so is polanski ever gonna face justice or what.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back






DrVenkman posted:

Things got a little awkward with Rose McGowan recently. There was the odd Colbert interview and then the same day there was this: http://variety.com/2018/scene/vpage/rose-mcgowan-meltdown-barnes-and-noble-book-signing-1202684004

I remember that episode of What's the Tee?

Rose has seemed a little ... off for a while. Whether that's because of the horrid poo poo that's happened to her in the business or something else in her life, I don't know. I don't really care, either, because I still like her well enough and feel terrible about what came to light about Weinstein et al.

But she's been a little crazy for years now.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.



All other things aside my biggest takeaway about Rose McGowan is that she seems to think that she's the smartest person in every room and if someone corrects her or attempts to corral her she just dismisses them as part of the sheeple problem.

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town




It's also been heavily rumored for a long time that Billy Ray was being creepy to Miley. Couple that with 5 years ago when barely-legal Miley was hanging out with Wayne Coyne, having "sleepovers" with him, and calling him "daddy" and

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back






Yeah, she's been like that for a long time now. It's a shame b/c her past behaviour probably makes it easier for people to not take anything she says about Weinstein/etc seriously.

re: Rose obvs

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

how few people do you
need before you can
change the world?


STAC Goat posted:

All other things aside my biggest takeaway about Rose McGowan is that she seems to think that she's the smartest person in every room and if someone corrects her or attempts to corral her she just dismisses them as part of the sheeple problem.

Yeah she really does seem to think she's 10 rungs higher than everyone else.

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS


Hair Elf

People with trauma often lash out and have trouble controlling their emotions. People with low self-esteem sometimes over-compensate with arrogance as a defense mechanism.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser



precision posted:

It's also been heavily rumored for a long time that Billy Ray was being creepy to Miley. Couple that with 5 years ago when barely-legal Miley was hanging out with Wayne Coyne, having "sleepovers" with him, and calling him "daddy" and

Has it? I only remember a gross joke on Family Guy (Billy Ray says "Wait, so when you're wearing this wig you aren't my daughter, you're Hannah Montana, a different person? ... Put on the wig")

Then again gross Family Guy jokes are strangely prophetic.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!



It’s also worth reiterating that Rose McGowan is on record defending convicted pedophile Victor Salva, who she worked with a couple of years ago. The message is good, the messenger is extremely problematic.

(Edit: in regards to raising awareness of sexual abuse, not in her trans-rights comments, obviously)

Tart Kitty fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Feb 2, 2018

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town




Al Borland Corp. posted:

Has it? I only remember a gross joke on Family Guy (Billy Ray says "Wait, so when you're wearing this wig you aren't my daughter, you're Hannah Montana, a different person? ... Put on the wig")

Then again gross Family Guy jokes are strangely prophetic.

Seth MacFarlane strikes me as someone who would know a lot of details but also be too terrified to say anything outright (I know he doesn't write for the show anymore, but the point stands).

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours


precision posted:

Seth MacFarlane strikes me as someone who would know a lot of details but also be too terrified to say anything outright (I know he doesn't write for the show anymore, but the point stands).

Or else what, he'll get his rear end kicked by Billy Ray Cyrus, ala Mulholland Drive?

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004

MAGA FAN #1


Groovelord Neato posted:

so is polanski ever gonna face justice or what.

It is pretty obvious by now that he will die in exile. Comfortably in exile.

Anonymous John
Mar 8, 2002


DrVenkman posted:

Things got a little awkward with Rose McGowan recently. There was the odd Colbert interview and then the same day there was this: http://variety.com/2018/scene/vpage/rose-mcgowan-meltdown-barnes-and-noble-book-signing-1202684004

quote:

McGowan thanked everyone for coming and ran off to her next appointment, a scheduled appearance on “The Late Show With Stephen Colbert”, which resulted in just about the same outcome.

lmao

Anonymous John
Mar 8, 2002


So when the hell are Dan Schneider and Jared Leto getting outed? This taking too long

precision
May 7, 2006

Gonna have me some good friends around
Gonna have me some good times in town




As far as I know Jared Leto's creepiness was contained to when he was touring with his band, and very few people want to start the conversation that begins "Bowie hosed teenagers and knew they were teenagers" and at some point has to contend with "if a person has a fake ID and is at a 21+ concert drinking alcohol, should the musician be expected to know their ID is fake?" The stuff coming out in Hollywood, from Weinstein to Ansari, is all much less ambiguously wrong.

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Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!



I swear to god, Dan Schneider is going to be to this thread what bringing up Friday The 13th is to the horror thread.

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