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Podima: Nov 4, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

BottleKnight posted:

Correct, because I was not sold on the counterclaim and there were still a lot of people left in the game. I feel like it was a wise decision, too, since it would be helpful to chaff tonight.

You weren't sold on Sal's counterclaim, after saying this about him earlier in the day while defending him from people who were considering his cop claim to be fake?

BottleKnight posted:

I don't think I buy the Sal case. I don't think Sal is next-level enough to post this

if he knew who was also in his scumdoc with him. If he is scum and this post is a tactic, then it has fooled me.

# ? Dec 8, 2017 23:12

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# ? Apr 19, 2024 16:59

George Kansas: Sep 1, 2008; preface all my posts with this

Podima posted:

You weren't sold on Sal's counterclaim, after saying this about him earlier in the day while defending him from people who were considering his cop claim to be fake?

Correct. The end of the day was freaking insane. Why would he come and post that right after hammer? I didn't trust it, and it was whacky as hell. Made me very wary.

# ? Dec 8, 2017 23:15

b-minus1: Jul 24, 2008; She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Podima posted:

So after we had scum outed by Sal after the hammer last night, you opted to.... save your ability instead of using it on them?

Nah.

actually, unless I'm missing something we still don't know how, or if sal knew TM was scum. Look at sal's abilities:

Ballot Stuffing: Any player who visits you at night will be hated the next day.
King Hit: Once during the game, you may roleblock a player. You will identify if they are a member of the Patriots.

TM wasn't a member of the patriots, he was liquid aligned and shared a wincon with sc64. so even if Sal roleblocked him, his intel would not identify TM as a patriot.

So maybe sal didn't know anything about TM's alignment after all?

# ? Dec 8, 2017 23:18

George Kansas: Sep 1, 2008; preface all my posts with this

St Evan Echoes posted:

If it comes down to it, I will take the risk of vigging tonight

Do you have no thoughts on anything I've posted?

# ? Dec 8, 2017 23:20

Podima: Nov 4, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

b-minus1 posted:

actually, unless I'm missing something we still don't know how, or if sal knew TM was scum. Look at sal's abilities:

Ballot Stuffing: Any player who visits you at night will be hated the next day.
King Hit: Once during the game, you may roleblock a player. You will identify if they are a member of the Patriots.

TM wasn't a member of the patriots, he was liquid aligned and shared a wincon with sc64. so even if Sal roleblocked him, his intel would not identify TM as a patriot.

So maybe sal didn't know anything about TM's alignment after all?

TM claimed Solidus Snake, which was Sal's flavor, in an attempt to have Sal counterclaim so that SC64 could kill him at night. Sal took TM claiming his flavor as TM being scum. That all went down at the end of the previous day.

# ? Dec 8, 2017 23:25

Podima: Nov 4, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

We've got like 1 hour 10 minutes to deadline, guys.

# ? Dec 9, 2017 00:50

George Kansas: Sep 1, 2008; preface all my posts with this

I've clearly made my decision.

##vote podima

# ? Dec 9, 2017 00:51

Dans Macabre: Apr 24, 2004

##vote podima I can�t shake this feeling

# ? Dec 9, 2017 00:54

Podima: Nov 4, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

BK has yet to even explain why he's attempting to lynch a claimed protective role or anything beyond his case that is "he changed his mind".

# ? Dec 9, 2017 00:59

George Kansas: Sep 1, 2008; preface all my posts with this

Podima posted:

BK has yet to even explain why he's attempting to lynch a claimed protective role or anything beyond his case that is "he changed his mind".

Yeah, this is definitely a fair and accurate representation of my case.

# ? Dec 9, 2017 01:03

Podima: Nov 4, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

BottleKnight posted:

This quote still rings true, and I can defend my logic this entire game whereas Pod repeatedly can't. He's wishy washy, he's been conveniently wrong about nearly everything this game, and now he expects to logic us into letting him live, probably so he can try to win the game. Don't let him do this drive-by on me when he is clearly scum!!

Pardon me, I forgot that I already quoted your case:

Podima posted:

Your entire case is that I've changed my opinions over the course of the game (so have you) and that I was wrong (so were you), and conveniently wants to try very hard and keep a 3P Survivor alive for a scum win.

https://twitter.com/dril/status/922321981

I know I'm getting frustrated now which means you're doing a good job, because drat you have just hammered at me for really spurious reason in a blatant attempt to save your own skin.

Does anyone actually believe that a town BK, when seeing Sal (who he defended earlier in the day) confirm someone else as scum, chooses to NOT "short out the electronics" of the person identified as scum?

# ? Dec 9, 2017 01:07

George Kansas: Sep 1, 2008; preface all my posts with this

Podima posted:

Pardon me, I forgot that I already quoted your case:

I know I'm getting frustrated now which means you're doing a good job, because drat you have just hammered at me for really spurious reason in a blatant attempt to save your own skin.

Does anyone actually believe that a town BK, when seeing Sal (who he defended earlier in the day) confirm someone else as scum, chooses to NOT "short out the electronics" of the person identified as scum?

you've been grasping at straws this entire game, posting whatever is strategically convenient for you, and it doesn't surprise me at all that you scramble today and post a largely substanceless hitjob on me.

You haven't even fullclaimed, probably because your other power is scummy. I don't blame you, in that case. At least I've claimed everything and explained my thought processes.

# ? Dec 9, 2017 01:09

Podima: Nov 4, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

BottleKnight posted:

you've been grasping at straws this entire game, posting whatever is strategically convenient for you, and it doesn't surprise me at all that you scramble today and post a largely substanceless hitjob on me.

You haven't even fullclaimed, probably because your other power is scummy. I don't blame you, in that case. At least I've claimed everything and explained my thought processes.

Just because you wave your hand and say it's substanceless doesn't make it true - your retort was effectively "nuh UH!"

Also you are scummy as poo poo asking me to fullclaim my self-protective power and I will not do it. It only benefits scum for it to be out in the open. Better to make them second-guess themselves about whether it's safe to kill me at night or not. If you have a townie justification for me to reveal how scum can safely kill me tonight, I urge and implore you to share it with the thread.

Last but not least: Saying I haven't explained my thought processes is nonsense, when I've been doing nothing but this entire game day.

(also for other readers: check this dismissive tone from him atop his high horse. he's doing everything he can to get me mislynched for a win.)

# ? Dec 9, 2017 01:12

George Kansas: Sep 1, 2008; preface all my posts with this

Podima posted:

Just because you wave your hand and say it's substanceless doesn't make it true - your retort was effectively "nuh UH!"

Also you are scummy as poo poo asking me to fullclaim my self-protective power and I will not do it. It only benefits scum for it to be out in the open. Better to make them second-guess themselves about whether it's safe to kill me at night or not. If you have a townie justification for me to reveal how scum can safely kill me tonight, I urge and implore you to share it with the thread.

Last but not least: Saying I haven't explained my thought processes is nonsense, when I've been doing nothing but this entire game day.

(also for other readers: check this dismissive tone from him atop his high horse. he's doing everything he can to get me mislynched for a win.)

I never asked you to fullclaim your protective power. Yet another misrepresentation, on top of the pile. I'm saying that, because I think you're full-of-poo poo scum, I'm not surprised you haven't done it.

# ? Dec 9, 2017 01:16

Podima: Nov 4, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

You cannot throw shade on me for not fullclaiming and then turn around in the same breath and say you never asked me to. What on earth.

# ? Dec 9, 2017 01:17

George Kansas: Sep 1, 2008; preface all my posts with this

You ENTIRE case on me was an attempt to get a mislynch for a win. You haven't even responded to my several criticisms of it to defend yourself. You posted a bad case, and now you're pretending like my post was just a big "WRONG" when I had several warrants. You're lobbing shots and trying to frustrate me so that, when you successfully frustrate me, you can go WELL WOULD YOU LOOK AT THIS

gah!!! vote this scum out!!

# ? Dec 9, 2017 01:18

George Kansas: Sep 1, 2008; preface all my posts with this

Podima posted:

You cannot throw shade on me for not fullclaiming and then turn around in the same breath and say you never asked me to. What on earth.

Yes I can, if you actually read my posts??

# ? Dec 9, 2017 01:18

George Kansas: Sep 1, 2008; preface all my posts with this

"come up with a townie justification for asking a townie to disclose their protective power"

motherfucker my entire point is that you're scum!!!!

# ? Dec 9, 2017 01:18

Podima: Nov 4, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

I already responded to your retorts, which you seem to be conveniently ignoring.

Regardless, screaming at each other is just going to bring the thread down - I'm not going to convince you of anything because you're scum, and you have to take the same viewpoint to sound convincing.

There are 40 minutes to lynch, and the rest of town can make their decision about which way to vote.

P.S. The Trump thing was really lovely and I'm still annoyed by it.

# ? Dec 9, 2017 01:21

flerp: Feb 25, 2014

##vote bk i gotta follow my heart

# ? Dec 9, 2017 01:23

b-minus1: Jul 24, 2008; She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

UGh I�ve gone back and forth a million times in the past hour. Need to read everything one more time

# ? Dec 9, 2017 01:25

Podima: Nov 4, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

Just realized - If for some reason you guys lynch me and you truly believe that b- is a 3p survivor, please vig BK tonight. I don't have to live to win with town. As long as he doesn't have some kind of protection, that should do it - and since JFisk had a 'immune to most night actions' I can't imagine another self-protective ability on scum.

The true safest option for town would be for one of NGO/SEE to vig BK and the other to vig b-, but for the love of god don't both shoot the same person.

Votecount for Day 5

Podima (3): b-minus1, BottleKnight, NevergirlsOFFICIAL

BottleKnight (3): St Evan Echoes, Podima, flerp

b-minus1 (0): Podima, ~~Podima~~, Podima, flerp, NevergirlsOFFICIAL, ~~Podima~~, ~~NevergirlsOFFICIAL~~, ~~flerp~~

Not Voting (0):

With 6 alive, it's 4 votes to execute. The current deadline is December 09^th, 2017 at noon AEDT -- that's in about 29 minutes.

# ? Dec 9, 2017 01:33

Podima: Nov 4, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

Nine minutes.

# ? Dec 9, 2017 01:51

Dans Macabre: Apr 24, 2004

##vote bk

# ? Dec 9, 2017 01:54

votefinder: Jul 6, 2010; scoop scoop

Noooooooooo, goodbye BottleKnight!

Votecount for Day 5

BottleKnight (4): St Evan Echoes, Podima, flerp, NevergirlsOFFICIAL

Podima (2): b-minus1, BottleKnight, NevergirlsOFFICIAL, ~~NevergirlsOFFICIAL~~

b-minus1 (0): Podima, ~~Podima~~, Podima, flerp, NevergirlsOFFICIAL, ~~Podima~~, ~~NevergirlsOFFICIAL~~, ~~flerp~~

Not Voting (0):

With 6 alive, it's 4 votes to execute. The current deadline is December 09^th, 2017 at noon AEDT -- that's in about 5 minutes.

# ? Dec 9, 2017 01:54

Dans Macabre: Apr 24, 2004

# ? Dec 9, 2017 02:14

birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

BottleKnight (Donald Anderson, Patriot-aligned DARPA Chief) was dunked on Day 5

quote:

Chaff Grenade: At night, choose two targets. Their electronics will be blocked. Cannot be used on consecutive nights.

Decoy Octopus: If used at night, anyone who visits you will have their actions fail and receive a message about your physical ailment.

It is now Night 5.

# ? Dec 9, 2017 02:15

SHALASHASKA HAWKE: Nov 10, 2016; No child soldier in poverty by 1990

oh sure make the black guy a patroit

this is racialist

# ? Dec 9, 2017 02:16

birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

b-minus1 (Drebin 893, Patriot-aligned War Economist) was taken out on N5!

quote:

Powers

SOP System: Target a player at night. Their action (if any) will target themselves.

Nanomachine Suppressor: Once per game, activate this power during dayphase. The remaining time to deadline is reduced by two-thirds (cannot reduce time remaining below one hour).

flerp (Mei Ling, Town-aligned Philanthropist) was taken out on N5!

quote:

Powers

Soliton Radar: At night, choose two players to watch. You will learn who visited them.

Codec: At night, you may contact a player to form an unconfirmed masonry. The masonry lasts until the end of the next day.

# ? Dec 9, 2017 14:13

SHALASHASKA HAWKE: Nov 10, 2016; No child soldier in poverty by 1990

Birdstrike posted:

Drebin 893, Patriot-aligned

Patriot-aligned

FFFUUUUUU

# ? Dec 9, 2017 14:17

birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

Votecount for Day 3

Podima (The current deadline is dead, line. Turn off your computer system now. I'm not kidding Jack.): Anonymous

St Evan Echoes (The current deadline is dead, line. Turn off your computer system now. I'm not kidding Jack.): Anonymous

NevergirlsOFFICIAL (The current deadline is dead, line. Turn off your computer system now. I'm not kidding Jack.): Anonymous

6

With none alive, it's 3 votes to launch. The current deadline is dead, line. Turn off your computer system now. I'm not kidding Jack.

_{Votecount for Day 2

Podima (The current deadline is dead, line. Turn off your computer system now. I'm not kidding Jack.): Anonymous

St Evan Echoes (The current deadline is dead, line. Turn off your computer system now. I'm not kidding Jack.): Anonymous

NevergirlsOFFICIAL (The current deadline is dead, line. Turn off your computer system now. I'm not kidding Jack.): Anonymous

Not Voting (December 11^th, 2017 at 1:14 p.m. AEDT): NevergirlsOFFICIAL, Podima, St Evan Echoes

With 2 alive, it's 3 votes to execute. The current deadline is dead, line. Turn off your computer system now. I'm not kidding Jack.}

# ? Dec 9, 2017 14:20

Infinitum: Jul 30, 2004

1 vote to hammer eh? :munch:

# ? Dec 9, 2017 14:24

jesus WEP: Oct 17, 2004

Wait what the gently caress day is it?

# ? Dec 9, 2017 14:25

Dans Macabre: Apr 24, 2004

##vote see

# ? Dec 9, 2017 14:35

jesus WEP: Oct 17, 2004

##vote Slasher Hawke or whatever ends this stupid thing

# ? Dec 9, 2017 15:00

birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

VENOM SOAG: Bird, what the hell's going on?

BIRDSTRIKE: Eli managed to take out all of the best operatives, but now the D5 part of the simulation is complete.

VS: D5?

BS: "Diamond Dogs Divulging Dumb Deeds"

VS: That's a dumb name. Change it.

BS: Sure thing Boss.

VS: So if the simulation is finished, what's happening with all of those system issues?

BS: It's Slasher Hawke, Boss. He thinks that every black character in MGS being a villain is racist.

VS: Hrmh.

thinking

What about Fortune's dad?

BS: I don't think he knows who that is. He's not very smart:

VS: I guess that's why nobody sends him any PMs.

Well, in any case, you better wrap things up before people realise that this whole thing was just a simulated VR mission. I think people would feel pretty cheated if they ever realised.

BS: Sure thing Boss.

NevergirlsOFFICIAL (Sergei Gurlukovich, Town-aligned Mercenary Commander) helped bring it home for town!

quote:

Powers

Hammer: Once per game, you may hammer a player that already has over 50% of votes needed to dunk.

Sickle: If you are the deciding vote on a lynch not using your other power, you are granted a vig that night.

St Evan Echoes (Gray Fox, Town-aligned Cyborg Ninja) helped bring it home for town, even if they only used their vig power once during the game to help kill Solid Freakin' Snake

quote:

Powers

Null Kill: At night, you may target another player to kill. The first vig you perform has a 25% chance of also killing you. This increases by 25% for every successful vig you have carried out.

Podima (Rosemary, Town-aligned Combat Psychologist) helped bring it home for town, even though he was doctoring a member of the scum team since N1 the naive fool!

quote:

Powers

SAVE GAME: On Night 1, choose another player. While you remain alive, that player is protected during nightphase.

3P AND TOWN VICTORY :siren:

THANKS FOR PLAYING!!

# ? Dec 9, 2017 15:01

b-minus1: Jul 24, 2008; She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

drat it flerp, you had one job. We only needed one more to hammer podima :negative:

# ? Dec 9, 2017 15:05

Infinitum: Jul 30, 2004

I helped the most by not reading my role PM correctly

# ? Dec 9, 2017 15:07

b-minus1: Jul 24, 2008; She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

We killed the scum traitor n1

# ? Dec 9, 2017 15:09

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# ? Apr 19, 2024 16:59

birdstrike: Oct 30, 2008; i;m gay

I obviously have some thoughts about the way the game panned out but it's 1am and I will wait till a decent hour

# ? Dec 9, 2017 15:11

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