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Tyrannosaurus posted:In honor of our esteemed head judge Antivehicular, I give to you your interprompt: The City's Last Traffic Cop Has A Bad Day 148 words The latest car-freak suicide is a multi; there's so little traffic these days that it must have taken some planning. Trees and guardrails weren't good enough for this one. The old cameras show him waiting at the intersection in his ugly, low-slung "sports" thing until a commercial van crossed, then plowing ahead into its passenger side; Frank thinks he could make a good case for criminal charges, if the driver weren't too dead to matter. Frank can't work up the energy to be sad for car suicides. There are only a few hundred personal-use licenses left in the city, and every one of them is a menace. If they see their era ending and choose not to live past it, he can't say he minds. The ambulance is gone, and the cleaner trucks are incoming -- the site's clear. Frank closes his eyes and teleports back to the station.
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Tyrannosaurus posted:In honor of our esteemed head judge Antivehicular, I give to you your interprompt: $3600 a MONTH Words: You count them. No cars. No busses. Not even a covered bicycle. I will not ride nor drive any sort of vehicle. I just keep losing my combs. Every drat time. I need those loving combs!
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'Interprompt' Is Also a Dactyl Asphaltgum Skiddingtree Balthazar Bumblebee Lived through a wreck His inclinations were Antivehicular From toe to neck
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# ? Feb 13, 2018 08:42 |
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Hey apparently I didn't crit for week 278? Well I found the document that contained the crits for that week: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EEaBYVFOgL8LLgzagrCBCr5be1zb4wg6knS3RDzk6Qs/edit?usp=sharing
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Thunderdome 288: The Results This week was kind of like adolescence: a lot of very high highs, very low lows, and not a ton in between... and also my making judgment calls that might alienate my peers. drat good times. First things first: Yoruichi's story is DQ'd. Sorry, friend, but this is way too fanfic-y. Pretty decent! But fanfic. Anyway. Your winner this week is curlingiron's bittersweet, lovely "Promise of the Sky." HMs go to Benny Profane, Thranguy, Ironic Twist, and SurreptitiousMuffin. There were other candidates, but four HMs is probably enough. On the other side of things, your loser this week is Ninjalicious's crystal skull thing, which had extensive mechanical problems to give it the anti-edge over the rest of the low end this week. DMs go to Jay W. Friks, Exmond, and apophenium. Full crits will be up when I'm not phoneposting. Curlingiron, the floor is yours.
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# ? Feb 13, 2018 19:18 |
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Week 288 judging I generally didn't care what your song was, especially if I didn't know it. I left that up to Anti. These were read in judgemode so look for your story title The Sun's Last Light first impression: yeah Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots fanfiction is probably no bueno Hard for me to pay attention through this distracting reference. It's not a bad story I guess but it's not really great in any way, either. Just kind of standard ninja-training-into-defending-(robot)-attack story. What's the thing Haruki did? The action descriptions feel clunky. It's hard to explain, but take the "As soon as the bot’s back was turned" paragraph: all the sentences are similar lengths, usually two phrases linked by a comma, and it just feels samey and all mushes together. best line: the lumbering shapes of the remaining bots were silhouetted against the darkening sky. verdict: meh The Crystal Skull first impression: "it's" "Through the smudged door and past the dreamcatchers, voodoo dolls, Chinese medicinal herbs, and piles of energy crystals, the right place certainly." There's... no verb here. This isn't a sentence. And this happens more than once. "“So it’s just a scam” the young woman said? " The question mark belongs inside the quotes. A whole lot of said-bookism going on. And mashing multiple characters' dialog into the same paragraph. And comma splices. A semicolon doesn't divide thoughts (or speech) from narration. There's some interesting imagery here, but it's drowing in a morass of bad punctuation and really careless execution in general. Also, Phoenicia is not Sumeria. I'm pretty sure there were thousands of years between them. So in the end, nothing was accomplished, nothing changed except the geographic location of the skull (slightly), nothing was learned. I don't even know the name of the girl, let alone a goal or a personality for her. A couple of mildly wierd things happened to this blank no-name woman, the end. best line: She knew. “I KNOW” she screamed involuntarily. “ZUUUUUUUUUUUUU” the skull screamed back at her in ancient Sumerian. verdict: low, possible loss Heaven first impression: "It", capitalized, in the middle of sentences. "it's" all over the place where "its" should be. A lot of comma splices. Another no-name protagonist. A no-name antagonist, too. You might have an interesting germ of a story here. A metaphysical story could be interesting. A story about immortality and gods could be interesting. A story where Job overthroughs God through the force of sheer righteousness could be an interesting inversion. But this story is really let down because its execution is such a muddled mess it's hard to follow, let alone empathize or identify with the narrator (whoever that might be -- and are they a separate entity from "the man below"?) The perspective shifts in the last section. I think. Why? This just makes the confusing identities of the characters even worse. Also what is that ending who are these twins why are they scattered how can they be both conjoined and scattered fragments what best line: With darkness came endless slumber. verdict: low Spit in the Ocean first impression: This is some pretty writing, and arresting analogies. Nothing really to complain about here. Rereading it has only made it feel stronger. best line: “You’ve changed”, they say. We all change. Sometimes people change in different ways, like different natural formations. Like how a volcano changes, like how an earthquake changes, like how the Great Barrier Reef changes. Like how pressure hardens pebbles and dust into solid layers of rock. Like how Pangaea broke off, segmented the ocean into different pieces of blue, limbs of a paper doll severed and floating on the surface of a pond. verdict: high Story of a Muse first impression: So, what was the point of that? A bunch of missing-or-wrong punctuation issues, and a few comma splices. Other than that, the low-level structure is fine. The out-of-nowhere, unexplained, unforeshadowed ending wrecks it. It ruins the mood you've built up, to no apparent end. best line: We flit from topic to topic, metaphors one day, dancing the other. She took to them like an old lover, laughing as she danced over refuse. verdict: mid Fire-gilding First impression: Nice descriptions of the otherwordly setting. Evocative. So, it's a nice sketch of a moment. But it's not really a story, is it? Nothing happens. It's basically a poem without the line breaks. Best line: basically all of it Verdict: med I Am Melinda First impression: Interesting. For such a complex story, it's fairly easy to follow what's going on. I feel like the narration does too much editorializing in places, undercutting the effect of the story. "Since that night with the storm or whatever." is the most obvious: "Since the night with the storm." would be much stronger. Best line: I don’t know if I believe myself, but I can borrow your belief for now.” Verdict: med-hi A Te Deum First impression: Cute little story. Fits the song. Structurally sound and solidly executed. Good descriptions. Reading through it it just flies through. Best line: the tiny atoll of Hortense, a thin onion ring of white sand barely emerging from the Ty-D-Bol blue Pacific. Verdict: high Options First impression: Hmm. I like it, though the second-person is unusual. The unspaced commas are distracting. "But you want to." What does that mean? Actually, is it a continuation of the previous sentence? I'd rewrite that or at least repunctuate it to make that clear. I don't know. It feels a bit too abstract. Yes, overexplaining is bad, but there's not quite enough backstory here to understand why these choices have any weight. Best line: She smiles like a predator. Verdict: med-hi Chrysostomos First impression: Nice narrator voice, but the physical blocking, the what's-happening-now, becomes pretty hard to follow as the story progresses. Partly due to limited understanding on the part of the protagonist, but still, I wish it was or could have been a little clearer. Would macuahuitls saw, rather than just slice? Another second person story. A mini-trend this week. Why that story title? I really wanted to like this. You pull off an Aztec story pretty well, but the naive narrator renders the action incoherent as it goes on and you're not able to get over that. Best line: Huitzilopochtli speaks in my sleep. I dream of the seventh heaven, home of not just Huizolophocli, but his dark family. Huizophocli holds a serpent in his right hand. It bites at me. Its fangs are black with poison. I feel death, smell the acrid smoke of my family. I feel it flowing through my veins, my blood stringing me like a puppet. Verdict: med-hi Promise of the Sky First impression: Hmm. Pleasant enough. Nothing is explained, but that's not really necessary. I'm not sure how I feel. I didn't understand what was going on, and I didn't feel much reading it either. This may just be a personal reaction. And the one line of dialog also applying to the story itself... that just feels like a cop-out. Best line: They walk from dawn till dusk, then through the night and another day again Verdict: med The Edge of the Machine First impression: Huh? It's totally disjoint, like you intentionally cut out all of the interesting and explanatory bits. I feel like there might be an interesting story here, but instead of proper cookies, you served the slivers of batter they were cut out from. The dialog isn't very good, either. Best line: "You know, I really like this reality interference zone," he said, then took another hefty swig of vodka. Verdict: med-lo Peak Performance First impression: Bad dialog and overly-florid descriptions. Ultimately, the story felt pointless. I don't have much feel for who the narrator is, let alone the director, or what they're feeling, or why they're doing much of anything. Things just sort of happen, and the protagonist gets paid for... acting so well with the director's direction that he is literally transported to the time and place he'd written about? And he is permanently afflicted with that character's dilemma, because. Best line: I leaped through the placeholder sections with abandon. The words hadn’t felt adequate when I wrote them, but now, here, they were right. Verdict: med-lo Boarded up on memory lane First impression: Guh? What just happened? The blocking, the step by step of exactly what's going on in this scene, or two scenes, or three scenes, I can't even tell, is jumbled up and impossible to follow. Maybe that was your intention, but to tell a story mixing up past and present or multiple locations simultaneously or whatever this is about requires more care, more careful structuring, from your narration, compared to a simple linear narrative. Otherwise, it's just exhausting for the reader with no payoff. There's nice description, but some low-level proofreading errors, including comma splices and extraneous commas. Best line: The room had too many people and not enough air. 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thanks for the crit took the liberty of recording fire-gilding because it was Short and i liked it godspeed goons
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Your task this week is to play with form, whether narrative form or physical form. You can choose an unusual narrative style (epistolary, stream of consciousness, nonlinear, second-person, etc.), OR play with physical form (the classic is, of course, House of Leaves, but there are many others), or even both! If you choose to use an unusual format that you feel may be ill-served by the BBCode and/or the forums, the preferred alternative is to post a picture of your text via imgur. The goal here is to make this as easy as possible for our beloved archivist and AI overlord. When in doubt, try not to be a dick. If you make your story hard enough to read that you make any of the judges physically ill, the best you can hope for is a DQ. Again, don't be a dick. I don't want to read another one of these. As usual, no fanfic, erotica, quote tags, gdocs, etc. If you really want to write poetry, I don't mind, but you still need to give it a narrative arc. Word Count: 1000 words Signups close Friday, February 16th at 11:59 PM PST Entries are due Sunday, February 18th at 11:59 PM PST Judges: curlingiron Ironic Twist Can'tDecideOnAName Stylish Bastards: Jay W. Friks Thranguy Crain sandnavyguy Solitair Antivehicular SurreptitiousMuffin Fuzzy Mammal anime was right spectres of autism Maigius Ninjalicious Nethilia ...and also probably TheGreekOwl? curlingiron fucked around with this message at 09:03 on Feb 17, 2018 |
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# ? Feb 13, 2018 22:43 |
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Week 279 Crits Part One A looong wait and I have some crits for the first four entries in Wikihow week. Contained within the link below is Exmonds "Humanity's Children", Okuas "All the while the soup was getting cold", Freakies "Lessons", Antivehiculars "The Candymonger's Tale" https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vk-lawrdHfwzGAxrqfhm6hoSuACcIMft/view?usp=sharing
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# ? Feb 13, 2018 22:47 |
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# ? Feb 13, 2018 22:48 |
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In. Skipped the last two weeks so as well.
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# ? Feb 13, 2018 23:08 |
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Well, you named dropped one of my favorite novels, I gotta get in now. Things keep getting busy though, so to be safe.
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# ? Feb 13, 2018 23:22 |
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gently caress it i'm IN
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# ? Feb 13, 2018 23:45 |
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I'm in.
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# ? Feb 14, 2018 00:27 |
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Live critting Week 288 here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p849LoiPaGGpswhd9vx03Ao4UO6xAO5KgZRbKpQrFPg/edit?usp=sharing
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# ? Feb 14, 2018 02:12 |
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I'll give this another shot
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crit for exmond since it was asked for: Okay I had to think about your story like four different times to try and understand the original intent, correct me if I'm wrong: Homeless person wants to inspire others with... acting? It's very, very hard to understand what this person is doing. The stakes are horrible and this is ultimately what makes the goal of the story fail. I think (and again, this an assumption, it's hard to really say because there's so many problems with how unclear everything is), is ultimately the two character arcs: Protag doesn't want to teach person to inspire others because of tragic backstory involving seeing a loved one of some kind die from it. Sara wants to inspire people no matter what because she finds beauty in humanity. The stakes are not clear. Here is what Sara undersatnds about performing or whatever it is: ""In the City I inspired thousands, but I found out that there is a fine line between inspiration and obsession." Memories of a blood-red gown surfaced in my mind. A dead seamstress, her face writhed in agony, followed. "I found out just how far people will go for inspiration."" Not a good warning. You could make this vastly more interesting by having Sara know this is a life or death situation but chooses to perform anyway. Instead we are vaguely given an idea of maybe a tragic situation which could have easily been an unlucky turn of fate. In addition, the protag here just starts teaching Sara without much reservation. "Oh no she might die... ah gently caress it." is the feeling I got. Does this make the absolute lack of moral dillemmia clear? In addition, this story is incredibly intangible. After several rereads it sounds like inspiring people is done through acting of some kind. You should be more loving clear about this and if it's not acting i have no idea what it is which is even worse. Ignore the setting making no sense. There's a city and a homeless encampment. There's very few words that make me understand the setting. I wrote a story a long time ago that lost that had a similar problem where I just said "the character is a gentleman". It's okay to use shorthand when you need to, but if that's the only description you have "homeless encampment" the idea here changes entirely from person to person and that's the only set of words I have to understand the majority of your setting besides it's near a frozen lake. It's a pretty clear case of tell and not show to an extreme degree. I don't know if they live in the alley or go to it every once in a while or if it's an alley outside the city or in it and if the lake is in the city and holy poo poo like yeah just be more clear. So the biggest three fixes would be: Why is inspiration so important to this world and why would people die to inspire others? What is the definition of inspiration and how do people inspire others? Making both the protag and Sara understand the risks of inspiring people and then having Sara die because she thought the moral choice of inspiring people was far more important than her life. A tragic and inevitable conclusion. There's other ways to end the story but I'm trying to think along your mindset here. Showing and not telling (outside of the idea of what the definition of inspiration here is). EX: Describe the sight and smell of the homeless camp. Describe the protag fitting in in some fashion (owning the same tent as everyone else? The same attitude of having given up hope? etc Calling something "The City" is also like the single most obvious example. Give the city a name. The City tells me nothing other than its a city! Using a name for the city "Glamway" as stupid as this sounds, is a way better name in this context because it tells us something. Anything.
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also, hey yall, its been a while. im in
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Before I offer to be in, I have issues. I should mention, I am a young contemporary artist with an interest in the philosophy of art What the prompt has done is inserted an element of visual aesthetics into the mix it seems. It's not just about the conceptual content of what is written, but also the optic compositional form that will be judged. As a result, I must ask: how far exactly can we go with this experimentation? Will totally avante-garde story form be accepted? (as in not disqualified, crits are welcome) Will this be just a regular story, just do some cool visual stuff with the composition of the words? If it's left to me, I will be going all the way with the experimentation, to a level that I am not sure if the judges will appreciate. I can always write a complementary aesthetics text to justify what I am doing, but that would probably getting into pretentious territory.
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# ? Feb 14, 2018 04:45 |
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thats a cool experimental post e: in i guess take the moon fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Feb 14, 2018 |
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TheGreekOwl posted:Before I offer to be in, I have issues. Lol
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calling it now, someone's entire entry will be a series of shitposts scattered about the forums
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TheGreekOwl posted:Before I offer to be in, I have issues. That's a really great question. I certainly don't have your specific background knowledge, but I can tell you what I was thinking when I chose this prompt. For me, the kind of stylistic pieces that I get the most excited about are the ones where the form itself has some kind of impact on the story. I'm not looking for illustrations because they're neat, but for experimentation that enhances or adds meaning to the text itself. One of my favorite examples of this (and I apologize for only referencing this book, it's just the one that springs to mind the most easily) is the chapter on labyrinths in House of Leaves; specifically, there's a sentence that mentions mazes turning back on themselves and leading to dead-ends that has a footnote leading to a previous footnote. While this is a very minor example of it (and ultimately one that didn't impact the story specifically), I did think that it was clever to make a labyrinthine text on labyrinths. I really like weird poo poo (like, a lot), and as long as you're fulfilling the requirements that I've set forth in the prompt post (specifically, make it easy to put in the archives and don't give anyone a seizure and/or migraine), I won't dock you points solely for that. However, this is a literary competition first and foremost, so if you get so caught up in crazy antics that you forget to write good words, you may be in danger of a loss or DM. I would say my idea of a winning entry would be the entry that was both a good and complete story AND most impressed me with its use of the chosen form, whether visual or narrative. I hope this helps! e: oh wait, was I not supposed to answer that in earnest? poo poo, sorry. Okay, take two: lol
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# ? Feb 14, 2018 05:21 |
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i was wondering too but i hedged my bets
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Exmond posted:Live critting Week 288 here: Just a heads up, this kinda "They just don't understand my brilliance!" bullshit gets tedious real quick. If the possibility of someone disliking your work is an anathema to you, you're in for a slog. But rest assured, if it's more people finding fault with your stories you desire, I'm your huckleberry. You'll get my crits when I wake up.
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Bad Seafood posted:
I don't really understand this post. But since you highlighted part of Ironic Twist's crit, Ironic Twist I apologize if you took my crit badly. It was meant to be praising your story and damning my own reading comprehension. Secondly, I guess I'll stop posting crits. The bit about my story was an experiment, since I need to spend more time analyzing and taking advice on my own stories. Thank you for the crit!
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Exmond posted:I don't really understand this post.
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# ? Feb 14, 2018 22:40 |
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k let's move on
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# ? Feb 14, 2018 22:53 |
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Week No. 288 Crits I listened to every song before reading the story, but during the story I was mostly listening to Dads on Display. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VywX1X38MoE The Sun’s Last Light By Yoruichi Thoughts on the song: silly and mellow, not bad. Very anime.
The Crystal Skull (Inspired by Mastodon’s Crystal Skull from Blood Mountain (2006)) By Ninjalicious Thoughts on the song: this may be the most bog standard metal song I’ve ever heard in my entire life.
Heaven By Jay W. Friks Thoughts on the song: low-energy music with bleary vocals.
Spit in the Ocean By Ironic Twist Thoughts on the song: I swear I know a song that sounds exactly like this one but I can’t remember it off the top of my head.
Story of a Muse By Exmond Thoughts on the song: THIS IS THE STORY OF A GIRL~
Fire-gilding By Surreptitious Muffin Thoughts on the song: singer needs a throat lozenge.
I am Melinda By Chili Thoughts on the song: my misspent youth playing Crazy Taxi has given me an irrational fondness for the Offspring. This certainly sounds like one of their songs - which it is.
A Te Deum By Benny Profane Thoughts on the song: Tom Lehrer always makes me smile.
Options By Thranguy Thoughts on the song: never heard this one before, but I like it. It’s got a nice pacing to it, a good flow.
Chrysostomos By Specters of Autism Thoughts on the song: punk straight out of my neighbor’s garage.
Promise of the Sky By Curlingiron Thoughts on the song: another song that sounds exactly like another song by another band I can’t remember.
The Edge of the Machine By Fumblemouse Thoughts on the song: gloomy, ominous, mechanical.
Peak Performance By Apophenium Thoughts on the song: I can barely understand the singer.
Boarded up on Memory Lane By Sebmojo Thoughts on the song: a good Hotline Miami level.
That's all folks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asDlYjJqzWE
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# ? Feb 15, 2018 03:51 |
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Nice crits, thanks.
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# ? Feb 15, 2018 04:37 |
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apophenium posted:Nice crit, thanks.
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Exmond posted:I don't really understand this post. But since you highlighted part of Ironic Twist's crit, Ironic Twist I apologize if you took my crit badly. It was meant to be praising your story and damning my own reading comprehension. jesus don't be such a snivelling weeble, crits are good, keep doing them, don't flounce
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apophenium posted:Nice crits, thanks.
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# ? Feb 15, 2018 16:14 |
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I N I hope you like puzzle stories.
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# ? Feb 15, 2018 16:19 |
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Good crittin' up in here; thank you Fuschia and doof!
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Sitting Here posted:k let's move on no let's not make them fight
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