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raminasi posted:lol @ all these hot takes about what companies with stupid personality tests Must Be Like sucker who works at one spotted
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Mao Zedong Thot posted:sucker who works at one spotted yes and every assumption i’ve seen itt about my job based on it has been wrong
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TheFluff posted:Went in for third interview for some adtech startup, unexpectedly walked out with a preliminary offer for 35% more than my current figgies (which are low tho) plus better benefits to boot. They haven’t even talked to my references yet, so this gives me some odd vibes - they’re a bit suspiciously eager. I don’t even want to work in adtech, so I think I’ll pass, but it’s nice to have the offer as leverage for other positions. References are a waste of time. Anyone who's been working in the industry for a few years is bound to have some friends that will vouch for them. I haven't been asked for any in years. Also depending on where you live, the market is hot right now for programmers, they may just wanna get the deal done before you have a chance to shop around and compare offers. I don't think its suspicious, but I agree that adtech is dumb.
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now im thinking of making a computer toucher industry alignment chart because my brain is broken. ad-tech would be chaotic evil, i think
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defense contracting lawful evil. databases true-neutral. information security lawful good.... scientific analytics chaotic good?? idk
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its all chaotic evil op
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well, maybe neutral sometimes but definitely all chaotic
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i think adtech is chaotic neutral unless it is in service if something evil
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at least that's what i tell myself so i can stomach working here
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I'm interviewing with microsoft this thursday using skype for business anything in particular i should be vary of?
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my latest company was really thorough checking references. they even checked one I didn’t give them
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AWWNAW posted:my latest company was really thorough checking references. they even checked one I didn’t give them
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Boiled Water posted:I'm interviewing with microsoft this thursday using skype for business anything in particular i should be vary of? There's a 50% chance they won't be able to get it to work so keep your phone handy. Anyway I don't remember the phone interview being hard when I did it, just as long as you've got the plot.
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Boiled Water posted:I'm interviewing with microsoft this thursday using skype for business anything in particular i should be vary of? for the love of god install the software and make sure you can connect and have a working mic and speakers before the loving interview. oh also be sure to tell them that you're super into diversity and inclusion.
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Fiedler posted:oh also be sure to tell them that you're super into diversity and inclusion. I'm scandi so that part is covered fairly well 
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Boiled Water posted:I'm interviewing with microsoft this thursday using skype for business anything in particular i should be vary of?
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Gazpacho posted:when they ask you to rate yourself against the best programmer you know, the answer is that you are the best programmer I can't tell if you're serious or not like if someone I'm interviewing feels like they're the best programmer they know I'm pretty sure that's a huge red flag for having serious ego issues but you never know, HR is a mystery to me
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TheFluff posted:Went in for third interview for some adtech startup, unexpectedly walked out with a preliminary offer for 35% more than my current figgies (which are low tho) plus better benefits to boot. They haven’t even talked to my references yet, so this gives me some odd vibes - they’re a bit suspiciously eager. I don’t even want to work in adtech, so I think I’ll pass, but it’s nice to have the offer as leverage for other positions. it's adtech. they're dying for talent because it's a job that actively makes the world a more terrible place, and everything is driven by sales so burnout is really high. it's also a sector that's rife with horrible people since they're all literally in the business of "selling you something."
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how do I get out of webdev i'm mostly a python guy (also forced into js). i've done some C and C++ but hobbyist stuff only, no professional experience. been doing web stuff for about 7 years now
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Jul 28, 2018 12:08
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I would apply for positions that aren’t webdev
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Jul 28, 2018 12:23
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Boiled Water posted:I would apply for positions that aren’t webdev Worked for me. Be prepared to talk to those hobby projects and hopefully find a team lead that cares more about attitude and ability than specific skillset.
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Jul 28, 2018 12:46
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woo, place that flew me out loved me and is moving forward. hopefully the offer doesn't suck. 
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Jul 28, 2018 13:31
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Boiled Water posted:I would apply for positions that aren’t webdev yeah but like everything that isn't webdev asks for very specific things like "at least four years of experience working with embedded systems and particularly these three specific hardware things" or "at least three years of experience with unity" which is kinda discouraging doesn't cost me a lot to send out a resume tho, i guess
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Pretty much just ignore job requirements when you're trying to switch industries or major tech bits. It'll help to have non professional experience with the stuff, but otherwise just keep applying. Only way to switch really
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From a hiring manager's perspective, if you're trying to switch gears you'll need a bit of word salad in your project experience (even if personal projects, make sure you've done relevant things) to get your resume through HR and then have a good track record of doing more impressive things for a HM to give you a phone screen. Then it's all attitude and desire to learn. Lacking "Four years of Unity experience" doesn't force anyone in the chain to give a hard no.
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I feel like a good way to switch specializations is to set your sights lower as far as company. One of the big name or cool companies isn't going to want some web developer working on their embedded systems, but smallscrubco may just be happy to have an applicant. You could also try applying for some kind of hybrid position, where they want both web development experience for front-end and Java or something for backend. Then you could just work your way more into enterprise app development, which would open up some different areas.
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TheFluff posted:yeah but like everything that isn't webdev asks for very specific things like "at least four years of experience working with embedded systems and particularly these three specific hardware things" or "at least three years of experience with unity" which is kinda discouraging number of years of experience is the hr persons best guess or guideline for position.
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Just be careful of the guy who actually does have X years experience in the thing they want
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qhat posted:Just be careful of the guy who actually does have X years experience in the thing they want If interviewing is a numbers game then the career switch is definitely long odds. Interviewing is pretty risk free though so you might as well go for it if it's what you want.
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qhat posted:Just be careful of the guy who actually does have X years experience in the thing they want Just keep applying, that dude can't be everywhere at once
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you vs the candidate they told you not to worry about
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getting an offer today and i think i'm gonna take it
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uncurable mlady posted:getting an offer today and i think i'm gonna take it nice
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uncurable mlady posted:getting an offer today and i think i'm gonna take it goongratulations
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uncurable mlady posted:getting an offer today and i think i'm gonna take it 
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i did indeed take it. 30% raise.
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"Feedback with all 3 interviewers was excellent but this is a timing thing and we're going to move forward with someone further along in the process. How about this other semi-related position instead?" Interviewing is trash.
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