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Corla Plankun posted:i had some unusually competent recruiters last year that told me everything i could want to hear but kept signing me up for dumb devops jobs at startups where i had to do ten jobs at once and the interviewers wouldn't even reveal which ten jobs would be mine If it makes you feel any better, the interviewers probably just didn’t know which 10?
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qhat posted:In fact, make that do not use third party recruiters.
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Aug 4, 2018 01:22
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qhat posted:In fact, make that do not use third party recruiters.
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Aug 4, 2018 01:27
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qhat posted:Or, remove your contact details from the resume so the company can't screw the recruiter out of the commission. Either way, do not use third party recruiters who want a word doc. In fact, make that do not use third party recruiters. third-party recruiters that are willing to disclose to you which companies they’re pitching you to can be ok, because they’re confident that they have something to offer you other than knowing where an opening is this “something” can be nothing more than “i have access that you don’t,” but in that case using them is zero-cost to you anyway
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Aug 4, 2018 03:44
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one nice thing about third party recruiters is that they’re incentivized to maximize your salary, and you can just be like “that’s no enough, I want 10k more” and then they can do the diplomatic negotiation thing but the recruiter I’m thinking of was referred to me by a friend, and I went with him because he had an in with a company I wanted to hire me. I treasure that recruiter
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Aug 4, 2018 03:57
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P.much. Recruiters who don't disclose the company are the ones who don't have the hiring manager's ear so they have nothing to offer except siphon a portion of what would've been your salary
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Aug 4, 2018 04:17
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Schadenboner posted:If it makes you feel any better, the interviewers probably just didn’t know which 10? at one place that was definitely the case, and at the other one it was like the whole point of the interview was seeing if i could guess what they were hiring for; startup hiring is chaos
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Aug 4, 2018 15:17
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i just got this email and it feels just like linkedin recruiter spam because it's only tangentially related to anything i do but i haven't seen it mentioned before. what's the catch to this? should I agree and then tell them all phones are piss?AlphaSights Expertise Request posted:I hope this finds you well! I’m working on behalf of my client, an investor, who would like to better understand telecommunications throughout large venues and conventions. Given your experience, we thought you’d be a natural fit for a 45-60 minute conversation with my client, for which we are happy to compensate. Do you have a quick 5 minutes for me to share the details? If so, what’s the best number to reach you?
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Aug 7, 2018 21:29
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Maybe double check the legitimacy of this "recruiter" or whatever the hell he is. If this so called client wants a short consulting session, he can probably get it completely for free from most contractors, so it's weird he'd outright offer to compensate.
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Aug 7, 2018 21:57
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there'll be a NDA probably a ridiculous one, like signing away your rights to ever work on anything in the 2.4GHz spectrum ever again because once you hear their idea for, idk, a concert badge that tracks participants with UHF semi active RFID tags you'll obviously go make all the money with it
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Aug 7, 2018 22:02
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JawnV6 posted:there'll be a NDA i love those "your idea is completely infeasible due to physics" calls because they're 100% a waste of everyone's time no you can't run a low latency real time control loop using wireless sensors and treat it as an CANBUS drop in replacement, sorry
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Aug 7, 2018 22:07
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so far today i've gotten emails from three different recruiters which namedrop some important person involved in the company they want to recruit me for and i've never heard of any of them
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Aug 7, 2018 22:14
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qhat posted:Maybe double check the legitimacy of this "recruiter" or whatever the hell he is. If this so called client wants a short consulting session, he can probably get it completely for free from most contractors, so it's weird he'd outright offer to compensate. yeah, that's exactly why this feels sketchy to me JawnV6 posted:there'll be a NDA hobbesmaster posted:i love those "your idea is completely infeasible due to physics" calls because they're 100% a waste of everyone's time i bet this is some kind of nextel-over-blockchain bullshit and they're going to "compensate" me in ico tokens
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Aug 7, 2018 22:15
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that is a legitimate company at least, if the person is actually associated with it they should send you real cash I’m sure the NDA will be insane edit: alphasights I mean, they hunt down subject matter experts for a cut
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Aug 7, 2018 23:12
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It costs money for recruiters to send messages on LinkedIn if they get ignored right right? I got recruiter spam with "If you are not interested - Be Kind! Decline!" in their signature today, and lately I've noticed other recruiters messages include something asking me to explicitly decline if I'm not interested.
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Aug 8, 2018 01:27
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correct any yes/no is less cost to them than unanswered spam one of my biggest fans uses the line "PLEASE, indicate either "interested," "maybe later," or "no thanks" to this message, so I don’t bother you again if you're not interested."
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Aug 8, 2018 01:32
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JawnV6 posted:correct
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Aug 8, 2018 01:37
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LinkedIn automatically turns off your message indicating you're open to opportunities if you ignore enough messages. Give a gently caress though because there's no penalties for turning it back on immediately.
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Aug 8, 2018 01:42
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this might be a good time to ask this question then I just made a linkedin to look for a job (currently have none). Are these messages worthwhile to pursue, or am I likely to be wasting my time? I haven't tuned my linkedin spam sense yet. quote:How are you? quote:Vivid Resourcing are a technical staffing agency based in Los Angeles, I head up our team here that places experts in the field of embedded software engineering. I am handling an opportunity at the moment that I think would be a very good match for your experience, particularly in robotics. The company is a well-funded robotics company operating in the agriculture field. They are based in the bay area. Are you open to exploring new positions? If so, is there a convenient number to reach you on to discuss further? quote:I wanted to reach out in regards to your current work situation. We specialize in staffing senior level hardware and software engineers nationwide. I have a couple of job openings that you may be interested in based on your background. Please let me know if you’re available and I’ll run them by you.
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Aug 8, 2018 01:43
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It's also worth mentioning that each inmail is like $10 a pop. Ignoring the mails is actually a pretty hard own.
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meatpotato posted:this might be a good time to ask this question then All of these messages are garbage, hth.
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qhat posted:It's also worth mentioning that each inmail is like $10 a pop. Ignoring the mails is actually a pretty hard own. lol wow
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qhat posted:LinkedIn automatically turns off your message indicating you're open to opportunities if you ignore enough messages. Give a gently caress though because there's no penalties for turning it back on immediately. 
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Aug 8, 2018 01:56
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meatpotato posted:this might be a good time to ask this question then 90% of linkedin recruiters are trash, but not 100%. i got my current job through one. you can increase your odds tremendously by only responding to ones who name the company they're trying to place you at up front. (this can be an internal recruiter for that company, or a third-party one who's actually confident that they have something to offer you beyond knowing that an opening exists.) for example, all of those messages are bad ones that are probably worth ignoring. that being said, all it really costs you to follow up with even the bad ones is time, and if you're currently unemployed i assume you have plenty of that to spare...it's basically a low risk, low reward move.
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Aug 8, 2018 01:58
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meatpotato posted:this might be a good time to ask this question then A good indicator if something is a waste of time is if the recruiter sends you a message that says they have something for "someone with your background". That means they haven't actually looked at your resume or profile beyond having it match search results. The only LinkedIn recruiter message I've ever responded to was from an internal recruiter at a company I had previously interviewed at, and they actually named qualifications I had that were relevant for the job. I'm interviewing there next week and also am probably going to say "no" because my current job owns and is giving me a p dece raise/bonus already. e: qhat posted:It's also worth mentioning that each inmail is like $10 a pop. Ignoring the mails is actually a pretty hard own. I've never explicitly ignored any of the messages I've gotten lol ThePeavstenator fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Aug 8, 2018 |
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Aug 8, 2018 01:59
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qhat posted:It's also worth mentioning that each inmail is like $10 a pop. Ignoring the mails is actually a pretty hard own. microsoft got it for such a loving bargain it's ridiculous.
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Aug 8, 2018 02:01
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qhat posted:It's also worth mentioning that each inmail is like $10 a pop. Ignoring the mails is actually a pretty hard own. holy moly and here i was wondering how tf linkedin was making money i mean i knew they were charging for that but hachi machi
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Aug 8, 2018 02:03
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i’m now realizing that i should have ignored that red hat recruiter instead of replying just to be snippy at him. oh well
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Aug 8, 2018 02:06
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qhat posted:It's also worth mentioning that each inmail is like $10 a pop. Ignoring the mails is actually a pretty hard own. ahahahahahah
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Hahahaha How The gently caress Is LinkedIn Real Hahahaha Just Send An Email Haha Like Gmail Is Free Haha
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Aug 8, 2018 05:17
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Recruiters suck but occasionally one will actually match you with an opportunity you would want to work at (broken clock) and I've also occasionally gotten info on the structure or staffing needs of other companies in the industry I would have no way of knowing if I didn't respond to these idiots. Also two of them (out of hundreds) were nice and helpful and the bad ones cost me all of 1 to 5 minutes. Seems worth engaging if they reach out imo.
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Aug 8, 2018 07:02
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The best jobs are always through friends or previous coworkers though. If you're job searching start setting coffee dates with anyone you've worked with that you have any respect for.
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Aug 8, 2018 07:02
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There's been precisely one time for me that a third party recruiter has reached out and had the hiring manager's ear. He got me to interview and that was good. Unfortunately, 100% of the others just wanted a resume on their books and had no opportunities worth mentioning. One even wanted to offer me tech support because durr I guess computer person likes computer.
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Aug 8, 2018 07:20
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i ignore lots of LinkedIn messages for boring jobs, lol that it costs them
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Aug 8, 2018 07:25
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i forgot how to turn off 'i'm looking for a job' on linkedin so i keep getting recruiter spam
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Aug 8, 2018 11:54
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I didn't know that was a toggle, and I'm moderately amused that my work probably mines that data.
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Aug 8, 2018 22:55
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lol i used my friend's paid recruiter linkedin account to try to find myself and i don't show up in a search for my skills if search for my exact name in my geographic area I'm number #7 in results after a bunch of people outside of the area hmm
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Aug 8, 2018 23:22
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ThePeavstenator posted:A good indicator if something is a waste of time is if the recruiter sends you a message that says they have something for "someone with your background". That means they haven't actually looked at your resume or profile beyond having it match search results. the real loving stupid ones don't even look for keyword matches, they just shotgun emails out at random. i got this last night: quote:Hi raminasi, i was drunk so i decided to send a response: quote:zero of those technologies are on my resume
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javascript, javascript javascript and also javascript
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I put "only first party contacts will be considered" on my message to recruiters thing, and I get significantly less spam than usual. The odd one still tries, but  so lol
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