quote:to get 1 offer, you need on the order of 2-5 onsites, had a recent interview where a manager intentionally misunderstood a few descriptions I gave for one of my last companies architectures in an attempt to fluster me.
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Coffee Jones posted:it even takes a few times to get the story out as far as rattling stuff out like it’s a standup performance. this is a red flag btw unless you're interviewing for a customer-facing position or a consulting gig where you'll regularly be interacting with bad faith actors
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Oct 13, 2018 23:10
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well that phone interview didn't go so well 
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Rex-Goliath posted:this is a red flag btw unless you're interviewing for a customer-facing position or a consulting gig where you'll regularly be interacting with bad faith actors yeah for real. I always feel incredibly awful when I misunderstand an interviewee and make sure they know I’m the one failing here, not them. FamDav fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Oct 14, 2018 |
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Oct 14, 2018 00:47
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Blinkz0rz posted:who's in boston that's worth working for? i don't want to commute to the companies out by 128 and i don't even want to bother with ms, facebook, or the goog. i have a bud who works for IBM in cambridge
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Oct 14, 2018 00:51
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Glorgnole posted:i have a bud who works for IBM in cambridge that's that company that puts people out to pasture when they get old, right
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Oct 14, 2018 01:35
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Glorgnole posted:i have a bud who works for IBM in cambridge didnt answer their question
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Oct 14, 2018 01:40
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cheque_some posted:that's that company that puts people out to pasture when they get old, right it's the company that should be put out to pasture because they are so old
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Oct 14, 2018 01:49
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had my first coding interview in a long while and my nerves got the better of me. even though the questions were easy i got anxious, tongue-tied, and struggled to debug some dumb mistakes. made it to the next round but they let me know i would no longer be considered for the "senior" level role. oh well. guess ill just try not to sweat it too much and keep practicing.
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Oct 14, 2018 02:08
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cheque_some posted:that's that company that puts people out to pasture when they get old, right only if they are Americans it’s been ibm policy to eliminate senior onshore positions for like 30years now. it just took that long for people to sue 
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Oct 14, 2018 03:45
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Symbolic Butt posted:here let me quote you this that post was targeted at some fuckstick who thought he was gonna leave a first world country for greener pastures. that’s rare for exactly the reason I elucidated you are in a different situation. you are presumably educated and well qualified, and competent in the global business language of choice, but finding nothing in your home market so, why is it worth it for a foreign firm to hire you? unlike their domestic candidates or American expats you are desperate, and you are likely willing to accept pay grades the locals and high dollar expats will not
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Oct 14, 2018 03:48
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:that post was targeted at some fuckstick who thought he was gonna leave a first world country for greener pastures. that’s rare for exactly the reason I elucidated money that i and lots of us citizen peeps would laugh at and reject, like 100k usd + 50k in rsu's or whatever
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Oct 14, 2018 03:54
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Mexican Apple Shipment posted:had my first coding interview in a long while and my nerves got the better of me. even though the questions were easy i got anxious, tongue-tied, and struggled to debug some dumb mistakes. yep, I hosed up really bad on a super simple question on the first interview I did on my most recent round of interviewing too. it happens, interviewing is bullshit, keep practicing until you get good at it, it doesn’t take that long
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Oct 14, 2018 05:08
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bob dobbs is dead posted:money that i and lots of us citizen peeps would laugh at and reject, like 100k usd + 50k in rsu's or whatever ... which would be better than average outside of the top four markets in the US?
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Oct 14, 2018 05:40
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Munkeymon posted:... which would be better than average outside of the top four markets in the US? i think he's being sarcastic
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Oct 14, 2018 06:27
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Munkeymon posted:... which would be better than average outside of the top four markets in the US? if they're angling for a remote job, congrats, anything outside the top 4 markets in the us or maybe some other global finance hubs if they're willing to do that poo poo, they don't exist
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Oct 14, 2018 06:42
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jit bull transpile posted:i think he's being sarcastic idk posting history says otherwise
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Oct 14, 2018 07:58
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bob dobbs is dead posted:if they're angling for a remote job, congrats, anything outside the top 4 markets in the us or maybe some other global finance hubs if they're willing to do that poo poo, they don't exist remote jobs basically don't exist for foreign nationals, unless you're talking about outsourcing (and i think they're pants on head stupid for domestic candidates, but that is a different discussion)
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Oct 14, 2018 15:04
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Munkeymon posted:... which would be better than average outside of the top four markets in the US? good luck recruiting senior candidates from the flyover states it's not like programmers in, say, minnesota are unaware that wages double on the coasts. they just don't care. they have houses and families and they would rather face penury than leave (that's how they ended up as senior developers in minnesota! could have left at any point in their careers and chose not to) bob dobbs is dead posted:money that i and lots of us citizen peeps would laugh at and reject, like 100k usd + 50k in rsu's or whatever and don't forget yurop no market in europe pays halfway decent by american standards, but every european city is going to pay better than anywhere in brazil the obvious destination is london, but there are also sizable talent markets in berlin, frankfurt, etc
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Oct 14, 2018 15:06
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it is also worth pointing out that the "top four" markets in the united states are literally millions of software jobs among them industries concentrate in specific locations. just the bay area and the new york metro area constitute roughly half the software developers in the entire country employers open offices where the talent is; the talent goes where the offices are; wages rise disproportionately. it's a cute little cycle
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Oct 14, 2018 15:10
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belfast and dublin have hot markets too
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Blinkz0rz posted:belfast and dublin have hot markets too what, really? new york has roughly as many software developers as dublin has people what does a "hot market" mean in a small city? edit: not being snarky I am genuinely curious. what's hot? how many developers or companies can their actually be in a city that size?
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Oct 14, 2018 15:11
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for europe you mentioned a few european cities that had decent programming market i was adding to that list
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soma and financial district neighborhoods in sf has more billion dollar (usd) tech companies than the entire western hemisphere south of the us, if i counted correctly e: just soma e2: just the middle part of soma bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Oct 14, 2018 |
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Oct 14, 2018 15:28
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Blinkz0rz posted:belfast and dublin have hot markets too isn't that because most us tech companies have their european offices there for reasons of tax shenanigans?
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Oct 14, 2018 15:37
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:that post was targeted at some fuckstick who thought he was gonna leave a first world country for greener pastures. I think that post was actually directed at me lol. and you're still like "why are you thinking anyone wants to hire you" when I already know nobody wants to hire me. no offense taken though
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Oct 14, 2018 15:45
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The_Franz posted:isn't that because most us tech companies have their european offices there for reasons of tax shenanigans? probably 
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Oct 14, 2018 15:53
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belfast is a tiny market but it’s absurdly cheap to live in and you get about 3/4 of what you’d make in london, so it depends on whether it’s worth it to be in a backwards shithole of a region
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Oct 14, 2018 16:13
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which ireland is the good one? i always forget
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Corla Plankun posted:which ireland is the good one? i always forget the one that doesn't have unionists (tiocfaidh ar la is pronounced "chucky ar la")
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Corla Plankun posted:which ireland is the good one? i always forget you’re looking for the dublin one not the belfast one
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Oct 14, 2018 17:23
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:good luck recruiting senior candidates from the flyover states yeah, my salary that puts me well over the median income of two earners sure is poverty. you called it. now I don't have any more time to post I've got to walk to the dump and scrounge some tarps to rebuild the roof because it's snowing
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wages being absurdly high in the us is kind of an academic point if you're not already living there though because who in their right mind would want to voluntarily move to the dystopian hellscape that is modern america? there is no amount of money in the world that could motivate that, and it's not like you can get a visa these days anyway
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Oct 14, 2018 18:54
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TheFluff posted:wages being absurdly high in the us is kind of an academic point if you're not already living there though because who in their right mind would want to voluntarily move to the dystopian hellscape that is modern america? there is no amount of money in the world that could motivate that, and it's not like you can get a visa these days anyway People do a lot of demeaning things for that kind of money.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:it's not like programmers in, say, minnesota are unaware that wages double on the coasts. they just don't care. they have houses and families and they would rather face penury than leave  Penury. Sure. Those dudes can afford to actually own their own houses, dude.
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Oct 14, 2018 19:09
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Boiled Water posted:and your coming children, free or cheap university. Ummmmm not in London (or England in general) you don't.
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Oct 14, 2018 19:17
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feedmegin posted:
are you surprised a new york finance guy is completely out of touch with anyone who isn’t exactly him?
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Oct 14, 2018 19:26
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Yeah, but, I mean, look at those shoes.
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Oct 14, 2018 19:47
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carry on then posted:are you surprised a new york finance guy is completely out of touch with anyone who isn’t exactly him? comes by it honestly? I get the sense though that if you are not self-absorbed and self-important in that particular industry, you're likely to get walked on
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:good luck recruiting senior candidates from the flyover states "look honey, sure we'll be uprooting our entire family to move into a $4000 a month closet, you are bailing on an 18 year teaching career in the local school system and we will need to shove your ailing mother into a nursing home where we will never see her, but once my stock options vest we might be able to afford a house with a mere 2 hour commute! our 10, 13 and 15 year olds won't mind sharing a futon in the corner for two years, it will be like camping!"
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