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Right next to the bus stop next to work, I'm looking t at a Forever Duke window sticker so...hmm...
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KoRMaK posted:oh god dammit. loving katas. who does katas when they are already a 6 year senior/lead?? katas seem like poo poo new developers do to sharpen their skills. yes, man. loving katas like you’d been flipping pancakes, decided to do this software thing one day ginned up your entire resume + experience on the spot. Optimally they’re supposed to be technical freebie questions and they’re looking for ‘your approach and style’ - of course if the interviewer sees a dozen of these and gets impatient when you get wrapped around the axle coming up with a solution, it’s just a wash.
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Coffee Jones posted:yes, man. loving katas like you’d been flipping pancakes, decided to do this software thing one day ginned up your entire resume + experience on the spot. I'm inferring what you mean here, but yea the fact that I didn't already know the answer, and didn't take the time to read other solutions to inform my approach, is what I think hosed me. I googled for some libraries that would have implemented the solution, but was looking for a specific thing (packaged gems) and skipped over some gists I found. I should have said "oh hey I see some other solutions, I'm going to read those for a minute and see if they help guide me." My problem at the time was that I thought that would be like cheating, as if this was a test in school, intead of acting like it was any other work that I do which would mean "google it and read stack overflow and what other people have done" So, in closing, a small mistake I made during the interview that is practically inconsequential to my actual talent, experience and daily workflow discounted me from the roll of candidates. interviewing is huge time garbage
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Oct 29, 2018 20:16
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ADINSX posted:I couldn't tell you what IBM does these days other than "fire old people". I know the answer is something like "professional services" or whatever but man thats so depressing, what a fall. It's crazy because getting fired by IBM was a ancillary plot point in Microserfs Notorious b.s.d. posted:of course Seattle?
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Oct 29, 2018 20:54
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Shaggar posted:I haven't been there in years but I cant imagine its anywhere close to other tech hubs, especially ones on the coasts. both downtown raleigh and durham have downtown condos/apartments/whatever that starts at 2k+ a month now the real estate bubble here is unreal
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Oct 29, 2018 21:03
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Phone posted:both downtown raleigh and durham have downtown condos/apartments/whatever that starts at 2k+ a month now One bedroom? Have heard Austin is getting pretty bad now too. Wondering which other cities are affected.
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Oct 29, 2018 21:09
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prisoner of waffles posted:Accepted an offer that's still in ${HELL_INDUSTRY} but I will get to handle a pitchfork and I'll have a few trusted coworkers with me in the boiling pits of sulfur 
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Oct 30, 2018 01:26
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I didn't get the job at Large Tech Co but someone else at Large Tech Co told me to apply for a different team?? might get another trip to California baby
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Oct 30, 2018 01:41
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Luigi Thirty posted:I didn't get the job at Large Tech Co gently caress yeah get comped travel, get figgies too
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Oct 30, 2018 03:22
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:db2 and oracle are both thrashing and dying also mssql is growing quickly
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Oct 30, 2018 06:10
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Oracle's advantages as a dbms have eroded significantly since mssql 2014+ came out, and it costs way more also. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of their income right now comes from existing clients who are so all in on Oracle that they literally cannot afford to switch to something else. Our stance on Oracle was "only if you really really really need it, otherwise stick with SQL server".
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Oct 30, 2018 06:16
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Maximo Roboto posted:It's crazy because getting fired by IBM was a ancillary plot point in Microserfs its been a while since i read it but wasnt that firing part of that first round back in 1992-ish when ibm decided 'no actually we are going to have mass layoffs'
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Oct 30, 2018 10:46
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I'll be honest, even knowing what I've learned in this thread, I'd have still joined IBM anyway. Because it means no more interviews for now.
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Oct 30, 2018 11:03
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do i wanna pursue an internal opportunity to be a manager of people? right now i am a technical project manager so this would be like the other half of the managerial stuff - hiring, performance, goals, firing instead of schedule, scope, budget i generally like people and already work closely with everyone who would be my direct report and while some of them are certainly strong personalities i generally like them all so??
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Oct 30, 2018 17:19
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qhat posted:Oracle's advantages as a dbms have eroded significantly since mssql 2014+ came out, and it costs way more also. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of their income right now comes from existing clients who are so all in on Oracle that they literally cannot afford to switch to something else. Our stance on Oracle was "only if you really really really need it, otherwise stick with SQL server". SQL Server has always been a better option than oracle unless you needed to light some money on fire to hit your budget goals. since like 2008 or 2012 or whenever ssis and ssrs started coming with sql server its been far and away the best db option
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Oct 30, 2018 17:25
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Luigi Thirty posted:I didn't get the job at Large Tech Co  , op
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Oct 30, 2018 18:04
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everybody keeps leaving my team and also company lol been here like 16 months and am now the oldest member of the team, including manager that said im happy and they pay me a bunch of figgies and im on track to get promoted to a role i want more than what i do now so 
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Oct 30, 2018 18:29
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Shaggar posted:SQL Server has always been a better option than oracle unless you needed to light some money on fire to hit your budget goals. since like 2008 or 2012 or whenever ssis and ssrs started coming with sql server its been far and away the best db option as irritating and as expensive as it is, you're probably right. postgres is very good and does some things better but sql server has a few killer features, like system-versioned tables (there's a postgres extension for this but it uses triggers and is kinda janky) and columnstore indexes. e: sql server only gaining utf8 support in the 2019 release is laffo tho TheFluff fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Oct 30, 2018 |
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Oct 30, 2018 18:45
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Mao Zedong Thot posted:everybody keeps leaving my team and also company lol that’s a pretty big red flag, especially if you regard your former coworkers as intelligent people. any thoughts on why they left?
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Oct 30, 2018 19:19
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Luigi Thirty posted:I didn't get the job at Large Tech Co apply to the other teams and don’t give up! you’re unquestionably smart and hardworking enough to be successful. ultimately it just comes down to doing a lot of interviews.
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Oct 30, 2018 19:27
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meatpotato posted:that’s a pretty big red flag, especially if you regard your former coworkers as intelligent people. any thoughts on why they left? most of them have been there 3 or 4 years, so have seen the company 4x in size, new ceo, new cto, entirely or almost entirely vested so its not exactly surprising (but ofc its still bad) when I joined I was intentionally joining the biggest company I'd worked at in a while, so the growing pains stuff is fine to me -- I would have also left had I started when it was way smaller though
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Oct 30, 2018 19:58
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i need some advice: i'm interviewing with two companies. company A has been moving things along pretty quick and called today to let me know they're planning on making me an offer. company B has been moving more slowly and i'm currently trying to schedule an onsite interview with them. is it fair to let company B know that i'm currently negotiating another offer and would like to speed things along? all things being equal i think i would prefer to work at company B (assuming they even make me an offer).
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Oct 30, 2018 21:05
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Kind Friend posted:i need some advice: i'm interviewing with two companies. company A has been moving things along pretty quick and called today to let me know they're planning on making me an offer. company B has been moving more slowly and i'm currently trying to schedule an onsite interview with them. is it fair to let company B know that i'm currently negotiating another offer and would like to speed things along? all things being equal i think i would prefer to work at company B (assuming they even make me an offer). Yes thats very reasonable. Usually companies will ask if you're talking with anyone else so they can factor it into their scheduling.
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Oct 30, 2018 21:06
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Bloody posted:do i wanna pursue an internal opportunity to be a manager of people? right now i am a technical project manager so this would be like the other half of the managerial stuff - hiring, performance, goals, firing instead of schedule, scope, budget managing can be super rewarding just make sure you're not just adding on to your current responsibilities unless that's exactly what you want my experience with managing is that i did a really lovely job of defining the bounds of my responsibilities and so i ended up doing everything that i couldn't delegate (which was a lot) and burned myself out like crazy
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Oct 30, 2018 21:32
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i’m not at all a manager, but i can appreciate its difficulty. there are fewer discrete things you can measure. but i think the appeal of going into management boils down to two things: (1) it’s, unless you’re seriously talented, a way to jump into higher figgies quicker, and (2) the value you get is derived not from your individual contributions but how much you can empower other individual contributors into being more efficient. the two are actually linked: there’s an upper cap to how productive you can be as an individual, but as a manager you affect and realize productivity gains for an entire group, so you have more business value. obviously there are other considerations (e.g. how much you like meetings and talking to people) but if that premise sounds intriguing you might enjoy management.
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Oct 30, 2018 23:56
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Is the conventional wisdom still to never give out a first number? I've done that with {company that pays high salaries} and my recruiter seems to think they're going to try and low-ball me because of it.
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Nov 1, 2018 00:28
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Ploft-shell crab posted:Is the conventional wisdom still to never give out a first number? I've done that with {company that pays high salaries} and my recruiter seems to think they're going to try and low-ball me because of it. it doesn't really matter who gives the first number. just don't gently caress it up. if you are obliged to toss out the first number, set the number high enough that you will be happy negotiating downwards. because it ain't gonna go upwards. most especially: don't let prior salary be the first number discussed. that's an awful, awful anchoring point.
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Nov 1, 2018 01:01
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yeah never tell people what you make unless you want to make the same amount at nextjob
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Nov 1, 2018 02:23
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yeah. that. to be clearer, then:
personally i have never disclosed my prior salary until after the offer is accepted. (background check firms at my last two jobs have been obsessed with prior salary numbers lol)
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Nov 1, 2018 03:40
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Reminder that in California, potential employers are no longer even allowed to ask about your prior salary! I bet that one is still filtering through HR handbooks.
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CPColin posted:Reminder that in California, potential employers are no longer even allowed to ask about your prior salary! I bet that one is still filtering through HR handbooks. and they gotta give a salary range it's p. awkward to bring up a law to do it when you're askin but it works
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CPColin posted:Reminder that in California, potential employers are no longer even allowed to ask about your prior salary! I bet that one is still filtering through HR handbooks. in every state of the union, they're not allowed to ask about your marital status, but they still do
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bob dobbs is dead posted:and they gotta give a salary range i'm not sure i would ask for the salary range -- that's a great way to put a hard cap on your negotiated salary referencing the law in order to deflect questions about prior salary seems free and easy tho!
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:in every state of the union, they're not allowed to ask about your marital status, but they still do I have never been asked this outside of an overly detailed background check.
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Nov 1, 2018 04:18
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CPColin posted:I have never been asked this outside of an overly detailed background check. folks hint around maybe they think it is just small talk
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Nov 1, 2018 04:19
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:folks hint around
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Nov 1, 2018 05:09
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i've never even thought of anything but automatically replying 'single' to that question if asked vOv
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Ciaphas posted:i've never even thought of anything but automatically replying 'single' to that question if asked vOv the problem is that if it is ever asked point blank enough to answer "single," the company culture is deeply sick
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i assume when people kinda hint at it with me, being an aging white male, they want to hear that i'm a family man who is well adjusted and poo poo as a story about my personal life but that very same set of hints could also be an attempt to screen out women who are fixin to have children i ain't got kids, and i never will, but i sure as poo poo don't want to work at a place that screens out women of child-bearing age or family-centric employees. that is the reddest of red flags, wavin high and strong
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tl;dr good conditions for parents are also an indicator of sane employee relations for those of us unlikely to ever avail ourselves of parental benefits be wary as hell of fuckers who want to get into marital status
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