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heh, career growth 's funny
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- take Ada out of that first bullet point. It's too prominent and you will be slotted as an Ada dev which is a dead end. Likewise say "legacy Unix" instead of Solaris - nobody looks for csh as a skill and "et al" is nonsense - you have Linux & RHEL exp but you don't list it as a skill. Don't identify the version of RHEL you worked with. - take Roslyn out of the skills list, just say C# and .NET - the top row of the skill table is hottest, then the lower middle columns, and the lower corners are cold. Place your skills accordingly and equalize the column widths. you have been working in the type of organization that does not follow IT fashion trends, which is a handicap Gazpacho fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Nov 19, 2018 |
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Nov 19, 2018 20:49
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rewrote my resume recently and went from ~10% response rate to ~60%. all that changed was the wording and how heavily i highlighted the cool stuff. it matters, a lot i had to read your resume three times to start to understand it. i would not try so hard if i was working if you hold TS/SCI then i dont see any reason not to put that on every resume you send cause it sounds impressive. aiui airgap is standard in that kind of work so doesn't need to be called out--employers who care will expect you to know whats up write about cool stuff imo. doesn't matter if it was two weeks five years ago. you're badass, make sure the resume shows that you're badass
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Nov 19, 2018 23:38
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badass things that if they existed (they don’t ), I could only refer to so obliquely that they may as well not exist, yes, due to aforesaid TS SCI formatting concerns are noted but for content I’m frankly stuck
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Nov 19, 2018 23:53
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I dwell on that fact a lot, tbh eta sigh, i'm sorry, i don't mean to keep replying to everyone's good advice with self-loathing and defeatism. just kinda dispirited rn. i'll apply what i can tomorrow and try again Ciaphas fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Nov 20, 2018 |
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Nov 19, 2018 23:54
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Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:rewrote my resume recently and went from ~10% response rate to ~60%. all that changed was the wording and how heavily i highlighted the cool stuff. it matters, a lot oi fellow defense bud I've been leaving my clearance off since I don't want to do defense work at the time, but has it putting it in your resume been getting the attention of all the goofy big name tech companies?
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Nov 20, 2018 02:30
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sorry i just have family in the MIC and considered applying myself when in college
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Nov 20, 2018 04:03
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what gets me attention from big name tech companies is lots of java and aws experience and having a white male name
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Nov 20, 2018 04:11
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jss: added another occurrence of Java and JavaScript on my resume because each is on there 7 times already and a recruiter told me today that she couldn't tell that I have Java exp
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Nov 20, 2018 05:14
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Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:what gets me attention from big name tech companies is lots of java and aws experience and having a white male name guess now that dod is going with aws im gonna start getting recruiters on linkedin looking for someone to autoscale the drone backend based on # of browns detected in the AO
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Nov 20, 2018 06:51
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Gazpacho posted:jss: added another occurrence of Java and JavaScript on my resume because each is on there 7 times already and a recruiter told me today that she couldn't tell that I have Java exp The thing about resumes is that before the first interview nobody ever reads anything more than the first 3-5 lines. If you don't have a blurb at the top that says SEASONED JAVA VETERAN; 7 YEARS EXPERIENCE, recruiters and HR departments will think you don't fit their profile. The blurb should match what's in the job description pretty closely (but not so close it's apparent that you just copied it). If the first blurb doesn't sell you, your resume goes straight into the trash. They have hundreds of resumes to check and 75% of them are from people with no relevant experience, not that the ones doing the first resume screening understands what the job entails. The rest of the resume only really becomes relevant when it's time for the first interview or phone screen - about 5-10 minutes before that whoever is interviewing (usually not an engineer the first time) will glance through it and try to come up with some questions to ask you about your experience. That's what they taught me in consulting, at any rate. They were quite good at making you sell yourself.
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Nov 20, 2018 07:28
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it was there. twice   the weird grammar reflects some search optimization that I had a consultant do 6 years ago and have left mostly intact mind you in this case I specifically know that the recruiter looked at the bottom of page 2 to see my irrelevant experience there Gazpacho fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Nov 20, 2018 |
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Nov 20, 2018 07:35
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we;lp 
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Nov 20, 2018 09:13
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my company is hiring again and i reposted our listing in the sh/sc job thread if anyone is interested
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Nov 20, 2018 14:55
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Gazpacho posted:it was there. twice i got a cc copy some recruiter sent to the internal guys where they bumped up the font size, bolded, and yellow highlighted a bunch of stuff on my resume. it was a crazy mess to look at.
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Nov 20, 2018 15:12
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if your resume can't handle a dozen passes through nightmare transformations then your formatting is too complex
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Nov 20, 2018 15:24
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EnergizerFellow posted:i got a cc copy some recruiter sent to the internal guys where they bumped up the font size, bolded, and yellow highlighted a bunch of stuff on my resume. it was a crazy mess to look at. lol at trusting a recruiter with a .docx only send out .pdfs
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Nov 20, 2018 15:56
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an hour of staring and thinking later and my resume looks maybe barely a little better, but only by doing the next closest thing to straight up lying and adding "java" and "javascript" to the "skills" table (and making C++ and C# / .NET more obvious, thanks for that) only touched each for work for less than about ten minutes each, and have zero interest in working with either (ed: let's be clear i'll take what i can get); but i'm out of ideas for resume improvement i can actually accomplish, even if i stretch the "shut the gently caress up" TS rule to its limit (ed) coincidental: recruiter called shortly after my flipout yesterday, not with any jobs but just to touch base and to report in on the market (poor, without the word 'java' in there somewhere at least) and ask if i could add any buzzwords to my resume Ciaphas fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Nov 20, 2018 |
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Nov 20, 2018 16:20
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Rex-Goliath posted:lol at trusting a recruiter with a .docx Pretty sure they can just gently caress around with it in Adobe acrobat anyway
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Nov 20, 2018 17:17
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sure but then at least then they have to try
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Nov 20, 2018 17:22
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one of the screenings that i had high confidence in a few weeks ago, t-mobile, ghosted me, and unfortunately i only remembered this morning that i hadn't heard anything yet asked for an update before i realized it was totally pointless, and sure enough, a reply saying I was turned down and a reply sent two weeks ago (i'm sure they did) just arrived
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Nov 20, 2018 17:25
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Rex-Goliath posted:lol at trusting a recruiter with a .docx They copy and paste into word if you do that
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Rex-Goliath posted:lol at trusting a recruiter with a .docx lol if you think that stops them
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like a month in and my manager emailed me going ‘okay here’s the map of how our company does salary tiers let’s make a game plan for getting you bumped up a level’ which is rad, and followed up with an email to our team that he wanted to make sure all our email auto-responders specifically say we aren’t responding to anyone during the break and if it’s truly an emergency to call upper management instead. I am now feeling less bad about slumming it for years because this is actually a good work environment. It also helps that a friend texted me this morning about how they are probably quitting since their CTO is cost-cutting and switching over to C# + React Native.
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Nov 20, 2018 18:29
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Gazpacho posted:it was there. twice Consider making "Java, C# and JavaScript programmer with N years experience" the first sentence of that summary.
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Nov 20, 2018 18:49
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Gazpacho posted:it was there. twice god thats a lotta words i would never ever read
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Jimmy Carter posted:like a month in and my manager emailed me going ‘okay here’s the map of how our company does salary tiers let’s make a game plan for getting you bumped up a level’ which is rad, and followed up with an email to our team that he wanted to make sure all our email auto-responders specifically say we aren’t responding to anyone during the break and if it’s truly an emergency to call upper management instead. i heard that there's a promised land out there where they actually disable your accounts entirely when you're on pto so you can't check your email even if you wanted to i think a yosposter worked there but i forget the details
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Bloody posted:god thats a lotta words i would never ever read theyre not for you to read, theyre for computer
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Nov 20, 2018 20:43
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Achmed Jones posted:pullover hoodies 👎 
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Nov 20, 2018 22:32
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i’ve a new job and one of my TLs is a goon!!
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Nov 21, 2018 00:20
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Don't come to the bay to do web work if you don't have Spring Butt or React experience. It's literally impossible.
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Ploft-shell crab posted:i’ve a new job run
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Nov 21, 2018 00:32
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quote:Don't come to the bay quote:Don't do web work
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Nov 21, 2018 00:33
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supposing somehow i get a job where I can learn React, by the time I want to leave the job every recruiter will be telling me to gently caress off because it's not React NG. recruiting is garbage, to me
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Nov 21, 2018 00:35
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read some react tutorials and practice interview questions, say you know it, get job, learn at job that's what everyone else does
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Nov 21, 2018 00:36
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they'll ask me what I did with it at previous jobs. I can only tell small lies, not big ones.
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Nov 21, 2018 00:39
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Gazpacho posted:- take Ada out of that first bullet point. It's too prominent and you will be slotted as an Ada dev which is a dead end. Likewise say "legacy Unix" instead of Solaris terrible advice -- you should include both "legacy unix" and "solaris" because you want to appear in keyword searches for both. Gazpacho posted:- nobody looks for csh as a skill and "et al" is nonsense these are good advice Gazpacho posted:- the top row of the skill table is hottest, then the lower middle columns, and the lower corners are cold. Place your skills accordingly and equalize the column widths. no human reader is going to look at the skills section. it's just for keyword searches
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Nov 21, 2018 00:56
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:terrible advice -- you should include both "legacy unix" and "solaris" because you want to appear in keyword searches for both.
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Nov 21, 2018 00:58
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your resume has three audiences and you don't know who of the three will read it
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Gazpacho posted:no, encouraging people to hire you for the dead technologies you know is career suicide any job is better for ciaphas than what's going on now. he should maximize his opportunity to get anything. who gives a gently caress if its with legacy systems?
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