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pointsofdata posted:As long as you are trying to test detail orientation under pressure and pronounce the words properly I think it's just about an OK question. to me the point would seem to be knowing the distinction between bits/bytes since that's the sort of thing a programmer should know, and "about 10" would imply that. otherwise you're testing the ability to do mental arithmetic under pressure which isn't an obviously relevant skill
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Do you know how many bits in a byte
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Chalks posted:to me the point would seem to be knowing the distinction between bits/bytes since that's the sort of thing a programmer should know, and "about 10" would imply that. otherwise you're testing the ability to do mental arithmetic under pressure which isn't an obviously relevant skill 8 * 1 is not exactly solving a 2nd order diophantine equation under pressure
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The Mb/MB distinction in transfer rate advertisement drives me loving nuts and I hate it can't we just measure in bytes and be loving done with it
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Dec 11, 2018 20:51
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bob dobbs is dead posted:8 * 1 is not exactly solving a 2nd order diophantine equation under pressure meh, i wouldn't underestimate people's ability to gently caress up simple questions under pressure.
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Chalks posted:meh, i wouldn't underestimate people's ability to gently caress up simple questions under pressure. True but answering questions under pressure is pretty much the whole point of interviewing someone
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Dec 11, 2018 20:57
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Ciaphas posted:can't we just measure in bytes and be loving done with it 
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PokeJoe posted:True but answering questions under pressure is pretty much the whole point of interviewing someone that's why i was asking what they were trying to establish with the question. if i was interviewing and someone said "about 10" i'd be happy that they got the point but didn't do the exact calculation, and i wouldn't really give a poo poo that they hadn't. but then again i'd probably not have asked the question in person in the first place i mean really the point of interviewing someone is to filter out good applicants from bad ones so you'd expect the question to do something to that end. Chalks fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Dec 11, 2018 |
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Dec 11, 2018 21:03
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Ciaphas posted:can't we just measure in bytes and be loving done with it we used to until someone in advertising found out that there was another unit of measure that was 8x more and had the same starting letter
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Dec 11, 2018 21:04
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graph posted:we used to until someone in advertising found out that there was another unit of measure that was 8x more and had the same starting letter yeah i just wish people wouldn't inflict this poo poo on each other in interviews i get it, spotting tricks like that is important, but come the gently caress on (edit) yes also the "1M times vs 2^20 times for mega-" thing but oh crackers i'm not doing that goddamn math Ciaphas fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Dec 11, 2018 |
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Dec 11, 2018 21:05
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ratbert90 posted:I have been asking the question: "I have a 100Mb/s internet connection, how long will it take me to download a 100MB file?" for the last several months to candidates. there’s no way this will complete in 8 seconds if you’re using tcp tho lol
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Dec 11, 2018 21:05
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Pretty much all tech interviews are gotcha trivia questions so it doesn't really seem different than questions about your language of choice or giving you a leetcode you've already done before or something dumb like that. See thread title.
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Dec 11, 2018 21:08
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yeah but i'm gonna bitch about it anyway!!!!!!!!!!
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Dec 11, 2018 21:09
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i think the dispatch job is fine cuz it shows youve done difficult things that involve actual people and arent some insufferable shutin computer nerd
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ratbert90 posted:I have been asking the question: "I have a 100Mb/s internet connection, how long will it take me to download a 100MB file?" for the last several months to candidates. ratbert90 posted:The amount of people that say 10 seconds is crazy though. "8 seconds, assuming your internet connection is actually 100Mb/s, the server has >= 100Mb/s upload bandwidth available, and assuming your connection has enough upstream bandwidth to handle the acks (not a given in a world where comcast exists), and assuming your latency is low enough that you don't have to worry about it, and assuming zero packet loss, and assuming you can send the whole thing full blast from the start (ignoring e.g. tcp slow start), AND ignoring packetization/protocol overhead. so after all that probably about 10 seconds" e: or an hour and a half if your isp is feeling fucky that day and loses half your packets on a second and half journey through mainland china or wherever the gently caress Arcsech fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Dec 11, 2018 |
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TwoDice posted:there’s no way this will complete in 8 seconds if you’re using tcp tho lol hire this man because so far he’s the only correct answer. lmfao if you think you’re getting that file in under 10 sec over any “internet” connection.
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TwoDice posted:there’s no way this will complete in 8 seconds if you’re using tcp tho lol
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CrazyLittle posted:hire this man because so far he’s the only correct answer. lmfao if you think you’re getting that file in under 10 sec over any “internet” connection. its extra funny because 10 seconds is probably a good wild rear end guess given normal latency and cdn speeds
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Dec 11, 2018 21:25
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Chalks posted:do they say exactly 10 seconds or do they say about 10 seconds, 'cause what are you testing for here? Assuming everything is constant. It's to see if people interviewing for a programming job that requires networking knowledge understand that MegaBIT and MegaBYTE are two different things.
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Dec 11, 2018 21:30
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Yeah, if you don't accept 10s, you are the horror in this thread.
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Dec 11, 2018 22:13
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PokeJoe posted:True but answering questions under pressure is pretty much the whole point of interviewing someone it's an interview to find if someone fits a job, not a special forces selection week
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Dec 11, 2018 22:31
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hmm, what if it is a serial connection and there are 1.5 stop bits?
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Dec 11, 2018 22:32
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you still gently caress up serial at like ~3%
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Dec 11, 2018 22:33
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lancemantis posted:it's an interview to find if someone fits a job, not a special forces selection week Is it possible to have a no pressure interview? The mere concept of being judged for your skills is pressure itself imo. Different people react differently under pressure even if they might be great in the day to day of a job. It's why interviewing is its own skill outside of anyone's actual job functions. And why it's garbage.
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PokeJoe posted:Is it possible to have a no pressure interview? The mere concept of being judged for your skills is pressure itself imo. Different people react differently under pressure even if they might be great in the day to day of a job. It's why interviewing is its own skill outside of anyone's actual job functions. And why it's garbage. do a project, someone comes up and offers you a job ex nihilo
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i've had interviews where it was just "we just want to put a face to the name, you've already got the job" and there was still pressure, if only because i still had to judge the company i was potentially joining (and i didn't do so hot there, tbh) admittedly a different kind of pressure, but still valid, as anyone that's joined a poo poo company can tell you
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PokeJoe posted:Is it possible to have a no pressure interview? The mere concept of being judged for your skills is pressure itself imo. Different people react differently under pressure even if they might be great in the day to day of a job. It's why interviewing is its own skill outside of anyone's actual job functions. And why it's garbage. yeah when youre jaded af and dont give a poo poo about getting tricksy little math questions proctored by smarmy little nerds right, interviewing is pretty low pressure also the thing where doing bad at an interview is like 99% a legit sign that place sucks generally or specifically would suck for you i don't want to work with insufferable nerds so failing an insufferably nerdy interview is "lol bullet dodged cya"
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obviously if you NEED a job it's a little different, but if youre a six figgie computer toucher looking for a place that will pay you more figgies to do the thing youre relatively competent and comfortable doing why sweat it youll get the jobs that are good fits (modulus numbers game) youll definitely not get the jobs that are bad fits, just show up and be a normal competent human being adult professional and whatever happens is probably for the better
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Dec 12, 2018 00:28
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im literally levitating right now thats how enlightened i am
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Mao Zedong Thot posted:obviously if you NEED a job it's a little different, but if youre a six figgie computer toucher looking for a place that will pay you more figgies to do the thing youre relatively competent and comfortable doing why sweat it this is my thought process now too when interviewing - i get to act naturally and choose what fits me instead of being desperate for something anything as was the last experience of job search
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have an interview. tomorrow and two next week for your information goons my resume is 3 pages and never fails to get me to at least a phone screen. and it was made with an apple pages template
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I recently got tell a Facebook recruiter I wouldn’t work for their company which felt terrific too
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AWWNAW posted:have an interview. tomorrow and two next week I should also add that by the time I get to the on-site it’s obvious that my interviewers haven’t read my resume?
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AWWNAW posted:I should also add that by the time I get to the on-site it’s obvious that my interviewers haven’t read my resume? when i interview people i usually read the resume but i dont bother retaining any of what i read
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CrazyLittle posted:hire this man because so far he’s the only correct answer. lmfao if you think you’re getting that file in under 10 sec over any “internet” connection. yeah the most correct answer i could come up with is ‘more than 8 seconds’
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PokeJoe posted:Is it possible to have a no pressure interview? The mere concept of being judged for your skills is pressure itself imo. Different people react differently under pressure even if they might be great in the day to day of a job. It's why interviewing is its own skill outside of anyone's actual job functions. And why it's garbage. the best interview is ‘yeah i worked with them for a few years at a previous job they’re solid’
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im doing no pressure interviewing rn and its cause my worst case is "continue to have this job i like a lot with cool people that pays a lot of money" upside being even more figgies. strange but good feeling getting a rejection letter from a company and being relieved i don't have to figure out how to tell that i really dont want to work them actually, after talking to some of the people i'd be working with
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Dec 12, 2018 01:47
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ratbert90 posted:The amount of people that say 10 seconds is crazy though.
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Dec 12, 2018 02:43
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Certainly you mean MiB as well, or is it common MB or actual MB
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Gazpacho posted:at some point I have to bluff what recruiters want to see, and they want to see microservices. they don't know that docker is for microservices, they don't know what individual AWS services are, and they don't understand that nobody makes a microservice, until one day they do I guarantee you that most tech recruiters know what docker is, especially if the jobs they are recruiting for require docker. poo poo, I know people in marketing who know what docker is.
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