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mekkanare posted:What's the justification for two coding interviews by phone before an onsite with the same FANG company? Is this normal or should I ask the recruiter wtf is up. super borderline? i had this happen at a not-faang once
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ADINSX posted:I've worked at lots of companies that have gotten by just fine without anyone being yelled at, especially not someone who's sole job it is to be yelled at. what's that? your employment history isn't representative of every culture on the planet wow who could have known oh my stars
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ADINSX posted:I am also curious, what's the benefit to the company in this scenario? Keeping extra employees we don't want on the payroll to... own the libs? it's japan, the land where you aren't fired, just reassigned to "chief architect of posterior support services" where your job is to count chairs in the basement all day, or sent to some remote branch office in the middle of nowhere where they also send the unmarried 30+ women to get you to quit op may very well be competent, but when it's obvious that you were hired by someone to be a scapegoat it's hard to be optimistic about your future
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Feb 26, 2019 03:57
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are the reassignments actually BAD? like could someone spend all their time reading and writing or whatever and bang out their actual responsibilities in 30m a week? asking for a friend
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Feb 26, 2019 04:14
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reassignment doesn’t mean no work - there is endless trivial poo poo to be done. you will just never get to make any sort of decision or have any influence again.
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Feb 26, 2019 05:21
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oh how terrible! *books flight*
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Feb 26, 2019 09:31
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Piano Maniac posted:I have bad news - I ran through the company papers with my wife and man, she was not pleased. 1. you are not unqualified. even if you are unqualified, this is a temporary thing where you will become qualified learning on the job. example: i am not qualified atm to write code at work because it is a new language and new stack and a million other excuses - i will learn it and the company is OK with me spending time to become productive. japan's IT game is really outdated, you will find that even in the best of cases you are surprisingly qualified 2. worst case scenario - you get some experience and walk away to something better. you are not japanese, you are not married to your job and every recruiter you talk to will understand that nobody has to take bullshit like that, especially tech workers in the midst of a huge bubble that said, probably you are not desperate enough to take the 1st dodgy offer you get, so i suggest to wait a while and see how it goes. you just started looking for jobs 2 weeks ago. for comparison - my first job search in japan took 5 months from first recruiter contact to offer signing
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Feb 26, 2019 11:30
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working for IBM: bad idea or terrible idea?
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Feb 26, 2019 11:37
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Achmed Jones posted:are the reassignments actually BAD? like could someone spend all their time reading and writing or whatever and bang out their actual responsibilities in 30m a week? my impression is that the japanese way of "firing" someone is just to mindfuck them until they leave. reading descriptions of this stuff does not convey the experience, because it will be tailored to you specifically for maximum psychological impact. it is really easy to do that especially if you are a foreigner who already feels weird and ostracized because you are not a part of the society proper just like reading marina abramovic doing a thing where she sits in a chair for a full day and going haha i could do that
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Feb 26, 2019 11:37
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jesus WEP posted:working for IBM: bad idea or terrible idea? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrbhBhDlhvo
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Feb 26, 2019 11:38
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i guess i know it’ll be horrible but does IBM still have any caché to have on your resume or has that ship long sailed now
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Feb 26, 2019 11:45
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jesus WEP posted:working for IBM: bad idea or terrible idea? i know a guy working for them in the boston area he said it's "ok"
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Feb 26, 2019 12:57
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its probably corporate_america.txt all the way through, but with the old pillars of tech instead of the insanity thats going around in the valley
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Feb 26, 2019 12:59
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The_Franz posted:it's japan, the land where you aren't fired, just reassigned to "chief architect of posterior support services" where your job is to count chairs in the basement all day, or sent to some remote branch office in the middle of nowhere where they also send the unmarried 30+ women to get you to quit Sure, so they should be even more careful who they hire and not intentionally bring on what they consider "dead weight". Not suggesting that the op is anything like that btw, its just a weird idea. JawnV6 posted:i bet you've never even rented a face job white guy to pretend to be an investor lol yikes. Except the point of the "white guy investor" is obvious, they think that's going to impress someone so they hire him to sit in meetings and thoughtfully take off his glasses or something. But sure ok I'll try and be more open minded and respectful of the valued cultural practice of *checks notes* hiring someone for no other purpose than to abuse them.
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ADINSX posted:Sure, so they should be even more careful who they hire and not intentionally bring on what they consider "dead weight". Not suggesting that the op is anything like that btw, its just a weird idea. lol
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Blinkz0rz posted:i know a guy working for them in the boston area yeah this is what i’ve heard as well. if you’re looking for a long term and steady gig to support a family you could do a hell of a lot worse than IBM. if you’re single and looking to go places with your career than ehhhh you could do a lot better than IBM it’s basically  in job form
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Feb 26, 2019 14:18
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Rex-Goliath posted:it’s basically sounds fine tho, especially if you just want to work but don't want to bring 100% enthusiasm 100% of the time
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Feb 26, 2019 14:21
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jesus WEP posted:working for IBM: bad idea or terrible idea? it's going to depend pretty heavily on what division and what site
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Rex-Goliath posted:reminder: we’re hiring What locations do you have?
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Does IBM still fire people for being old? Seems like the opposite of a long term steady gig if so. 'Cutting Old Heads' at IBM
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Feb 26, 2019 15:14
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iospace posted:What locations do you have? https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3075135&perpage=40&pagenumber=100#post489992424 That posting is for our consulting branch- and we’re hiring essentially globally for that. Engineering/Support Engineering you’ll be in San Carlos. Sales / Sales Engineering you’ll be either New York or DC. I only have firm insight into our consulting branch but I know Engineering is hiring as well. I just won’t be able to assist you as much as i could if you were looking for a consulting gig.
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Feb 26, 2019 15:20
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jesus WEP posted:working for IBM: bad idea or terrible idea? you know they're going to make you use lotus notes right
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Maximum Leader posted:you know they're going to make you use lotus notes right they sold the notes development to hcl so hopefully not for long
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Feb 26, 2019 16:22
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it’s the belfast office so maybe the worst of american corporate bullshit is toned down
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Rex-Goliath posted:yeah this is what i’ve heard as well. if you’re looking for a long term and steady gig to support a family you could do a hell of a lot worse than IBM. if you’re single and looking to go places with your career than ehhhh you could do a lot better than IBM Like, as of 2013-2014 their team was building cgi-bin scripts in Perl 4, and if I'm reading between the lines correctly my friend didn't get any stock grants, so it isn't clear that you'll have anything to add to your resume or be able to stack those figgies, but eh it's a job I guess?
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what ive heard from relatives who have worked at ibm is that its an ok gig but that every exaggerated story youve ever heard about the paperwork and bureaucracy inside a very big company is 100% true there. tasks are spread across dozens of teams stretching across the globe so decisions and implementations take forever and no one is ever accountable for anything. an ok place to park yourself and collect paychecks but not much more than that
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Dijkstracula posted:Like, as of 2013-2014 their team was building cgi-bin scripts in Perl 4
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Dijkstracula posted:One of my closest friends is at IBM and I've met a bunch of their colleagues, this is the impression I get. advancement is super slow, like there are people with 30 years with the company who are only 2 or 3 promotions above a new hire
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Rex-Goliath posted:yeah this is what i’ve heard as well. if you’re looking for a long term and steady gig to support a family you could do a hell of a lot worse than IBM. if you’re single and looking to go places with your career than ehhhh you could do a lot better than IBM that era is over, unless you're in one of their India campuses
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ADINSX posted:lol yikes. Except the point of the "white guy investor" is obvious, they think that's going to impress someone so they hire him to sit in meetings and thoughtfully take off his glasses or something. But sure ok I'll try and be more open minded and respectful of the valued cultural practice of *checks notes* hiring someone for no other purpose than to abuse them. im sorry that you find this insinuation so personally insulting. super weird that no job category or classification has ever happened without you being personally appraised of it's existence beforehand, but i guess you're the expert
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Piano Maniac posted:I have bad news - I ran through the company papers with my wife and man, she was not pleased. hey, it turns out this literally never happens because ADINSX doesn't think your second-hand description makes sense as a role long term, so you should definitely ignore your wife's opinion and go for the job!!
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JawnV6 posted:i wasn't asking for "respect" or justifying the practice, just pointing out that maybe, just maybe, something actually exists that you haven't personally experienced and would find less than ideal? that maybe the poster can be taken at their word and given relevant advice to the situation instead of just writing it off as categorically impossible? lol jesus christ do you really think I don't believe that dumb poo poo can happen in business? Of course I believe it can, I just find it weird and shocking and it doesn't make a lot of sense. I wanted to know more about the practice, ideally from someone like piano manic or penisface who actually lives and works in japan, or maybe even you if you work there too, I don't know. What I got instead is you acting like a dick for no reason
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good morning interview thread, getting ready for my flight
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Progressive JPEG posted:good morning interview thread, getting ready for my flight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB2yqeD0Nus&hd=1
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a man is coming to take apart some shelves today tomorrow the movers will come 
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got another lead to look into this morning recruiter says they don't do onsite interviews before making a hiring decision, just a phone screen plus lengthy hangout+code session, which feels odd for a non-remote job. i'll have to make sure i'll get a chance to do my half of the interviewing, i suppose
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I bet ibm is a great place to work for anyone who wants to be regularly pulled onto a vp’s project to build something, anything that uses the latest buzzwords he read about in Fortune
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interviewing is going to be even more garbarge in the UK soon Brexit plans: Four in ten tech companies consider move abroad 
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Private Speech posted:everything is going to be even more garbarge in the UK soon
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I've had no complaints with IBM. Only wish I had more vacation as a new hire.Maximum Leader posted:you know they're going to make you use lotus notes right Seriously, no one likes it, the setup is painful, and my team's mostly moved to slack.
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