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hobbesmaster posted:the job should understand if you eventually turn them down with “i didn’t like la” yeah, the curbed moment comes from this being the first offer after looking for a job for the past 4 months.
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I got a take home to do and they asked me not to post it on github. First time that's happened and it seems like a red flag.
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KidDynamite posted:I got a take home to do and they asked me not to post it on github. First time that's happened and it seems like a red flag. GPL it.
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my boss, who’s the only reason this job is good, just announced that he’s transferring internally my coworker complimented me on my timing
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qhat posted:GPL it. make sure its v3
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KidDynamite posted:I got a take home to do and they asked me not to post it on github. First time that's happened and it seems like a red flag. It's pretty common in my experience, they don't want candidates searching on github and ripping each other off I guess. But after the process is over it's usually fair game, I just remove the original references to the company.
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Mao Zedong Thot posted:
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Mao Zedong Thot posted:
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Uhg I’m being ghosted. I had a great phone screen and submitted the code test on time (and I thought I did great on it) but now I haven’t heard anything for 3 weeks now. I’ve sent a couple of follow up emails with no responses. I imagine they might be seeing if they can get someone else first. I’m trying to career switch from teaching, which probably has even worse interviewing and recruiting. Hiring happens only from ~April to ~August. Many schools in my area want people to basically teach for a whole day for free now (basically as the code exam and white boarding equivalent). Schools don’t have openings til they know people are leaving and teachers don’t leave their current job until they know they have a job somewhere else.
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Pulcinella posted:Uhg I’m being ghosted. 
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If someone invites you to take a day of vacation to go to their offices then you deserve a prompt follow up on how the interview went. Anything more than a week indicates indecisiveness and/or poor communication between team and HR, and should be viewed very negatively. Even if their interview round goes longer than a week, they should be keeping you in the loop.
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oh god this group lead who's replacing my current one was apparently hired without either the guy he's replacing or any of the team leads who will be reporting to him ever having even met him talk about your red loving flags, i feel zero bad about leaving this place now
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raminasi posted:oh god this group lead who's replacing my current one was apparently hired without either the guy he's replacing or any of the team leads who will be reporting to him ever having even met him At my last job the CEO immediately replaced me with my report who had only been there 3 months and 2 years total exp and 0 years AWS experience (it was a senior AWS architect position) against the advice of all the senior managers in our department. Did not feel sorry for the company at all at that point.
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Just yesterday my old colleague messaged me "hey, your guy doesn't know where the terraform state files are". I guess he didn't think to check the S3 bucket called buttco-terraform-state
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qhat posted:At my last job the CEO immediately replaced me with my report who had only been there 3 months and 2 years total exp and 0 years AWS experience (it was a senior AWS architect position) against the advice of all the senior managers in our department. Did not feel sorry for the company at all at that point. CEOs almost always are universally dumb.
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How should I go about coming up with an acceptable figgie range for contract work if I've only ever done FTE
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Sapozhnik posted:How should I go about coming up with an acceptable figgie range for contract work if I've only ever done FTE your yearly salary / 1000 = your hourly rate $100k a year = 100 an hour
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Thanks for the help a few pages back!MononcQc posted:<tons of specific help> Not sure if you're still around, but I think part of the problem is I think I don't know the right way to describe most of the stuff I did in a way that appeals to potential employers, or even which things they are interested in. I've been using job descriptions to sort of guess this, but it results in a lot of mess, and I think it loses some of the real things I could offer. The other part of the problem is that I got lost describing between "writing down what I did" and "write down what I did in a way that projects me go up the ladder" and "getting past dumb HR screens because I don't have enough keywords" Revision coming soon! Hope you can take a look at that too.
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Sapozhnik posted:How should I go about coming up with an acceptable figgie range for contract work if I've only ever done FTE if its w-2 (they pay you like a regular job, just through an agency that handles deductions) you should ask for a lot if its 1099 (they hand you a check for hours worked, you handle ALL deductions including the employer's share) you should ask for a hell of a lot (or tell them to get hosed, 1099 is for chumps and suckers)
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Rex-Goliath posted:your yearly salary / 1000 = your hourly rate 1) you are working hourly on a short term contract that can end at any time so you need to raise your rate to compensate for the downtime between contracts 2) you are probably getting crummy or no benefits (or bonuses or rsus) so you should raise your rate to compensate for the loss to your total comp contract work commands a wage premium because its short term, inconstant, and has crummy bennies. double your current hourly rate is not unusual. e: whoops, misread. yeah, 2x your current hourly is a good starting point for contract work FMguru fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Apr 2, 2019 |
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1000 is less than half of the actual working hours in a year, 2080 you should still ask for more
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qhat posted:GPL it. AGPL it
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GenJoe posted:1000 is less than half of the actual working hours in a year, 2080 But you’ll get hosed hard on self-employment taxes and benefits and poo poo?
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What are your salary expectations for this position? Please provide a range or specific number. Example 80k or 80-90k, open, negotiable, or industry standard are not specific. This is your first test in the application / interview process in following directions. Lets hope this is an easy question to pass. *
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I took a 40g raise plus commission to go back into sales and extract a VP title at 29 for a company thats been in business for like 6 years (spent 3.5 with them, ws employee hire 43, now around 200+) please pray for me
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dragon enthusiast posted:What are your salary expectations for this position? Please provide a range or specific number. Example 80k or 80-90k, open, negotiable, or industry standard are not specific. This is your first test in the application / interview process in following directions. Lets hope this is an easy question to pass. * Would "Lick from the bottom of my scrotum, across my taint, to the center of my rear end in a top hat" be the sort of range they're looking for or would that be insufficiently specific?
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ignoring the rest how is 80k not specific
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hobbesmaster posted:ignoring the rest how is 80k not specific The instructions aren't as clear as they think. They mean: 'For example "80k" or "80-90k" are specific within the criteria and will be accepted. Answers of "open", "negotiable", or "industry standard" are not specific.' loving hostile wording regardless though gently caress them.
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Yeah they are basically advertising that they intend to underpay you. You could always just apply and say negotiable anyway lol.
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im trying to figure out the right mix of passive and aggressive for that answer
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dragon enthusiast posted:im trying to figure out the right mix of passive and aggressive for that answer ab 2282
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So I mentioned it earlier but I recently started at Amazon... I was gonna post when I got the offer but as they say in this thread, it isn't real until you get your badge... I figured I'd make a big tl;dr post about the experience: I had 4 onsite interviews lined up about 2 weeks ago (it feels like forever ago but it was mid march). I had a goal in my head of 4 interviews, 4 offers... but it didn't go down quite like that. The first interview was with a rocket company in Seattle (I'm going to half rear end-edly obfuscate these companies even though you could figure it out with some quick googling, just don't wanna put too much easily searchable PII out there). This one went well, almost as well as it could have... but they called back a couple of days later and said they had to pass. The lady on the phone sounded genuine when she said I did everything right they just found someone better, and notably this was the only company that bothered calling me with a rejection (and gave some semblance of a reason) so props to that. Second interview was with a self driving startup opening an office in Seattle... This one was a mess... it required flying to SF, which is a gross dump no matter what anyone tells you, Seattle, with all its faults, is so much better than SF I can't even... Anyway the interview starts off on the wrong foot almost immediately. After getting through security you enter a large stylish reception area with... a wooden bench for candidates to sit on and wait for their host. Multiple candidates were already sitting on the bench. It seems like a silly thing to complain about but even the dinkiest office I've ever been to has some chairs or an ikea couch in their waiting area, its just common courtesy. Having a bench up against the wall in so large a room was clearly a dumb power play and kinda immediately put me in a bad mood. The interview started off with a challenging but interesting coding problem, I couldn't quite get the full solution, which required traversing a directed cyclic graph infinitely returning new combinations of paths, it was kinda tricky for a 40 minute problem. The next interview was an architecture type thing that went ok, followed by one of the dumbest whiteboard coding challenges I've ever seen that involved making some really contrived data structure that of course had a ~~trick~~ the interviewer expected. I know in situations like this they want you to just keep thinking of ideas, how do you react under pressure? How do you work through tough problems. But at the end I was stumped (after having mostly solved it), i kept trying of telling him that I'm just not going to figure it out. Who the gently caress solves tough problems by just staring at a whiteboard for 20 minutes until they think of a solution. They would sleep on it, or take a walk, etc... It was so insanely dumb that by the end all I could think about was how dumb it was. I think I blew it though when I talked to the hiring manager, not sure what it was, but he was extremely curt with his answers to me by the end, I knew it was gonna be a no. I got a cheery rejection email about a week later. The third interview was with Amazon (AWS). Honestly, this one was actually as pleasant as an interview can be. The questions were reasonable, the interviewers pretended it was a "collaborative exercise", everyone seemed friendly. I don't have much else to say about it, there was some whiteboard coding, some architecture questions, lots of personality questions centered around their values. It was a little long considering that for your lunch break the PM takes you somewhere, they say it isn't part of the interview but of course it loving is... so you're basically "on" for like 5 hours. The forth and final interview was with a company that creates disaster models for the purposes of insurance. They're obscure but apparently a pretty big player in this space. Anyway they were opening some new office and had a lot of green field stuff, but there were red flags out the rear end. For one, they were all new. Fair enough, its a new office... but they were all from Microsoft, when I asked what brought them to <company> they all said they knew the head architect from Microsoft and followed him. Ok sure, so sounds like you're a pretty tight clique... that I'm not a part of (also I would be junior to all of them, their first "junior" hire). Most of the interviewers had a "Master/Student" attitude, asking questions like someone issuing an exam. I wish people would stop doing this, I know thats what an interview is, but if you can't pretend to be "working with me" during the interview, I'm going to have to assume you're always like this: a tremendous dick. This one I think I blew with the director, who asked me to "design a toaster for blind people" and wouldn't stop interrupting me. I think it was supposed to gauge how I would collaborate with product? I honestly have no idea, it reminded me of those "puzzle" questions I heard microsoft used to give (and guess where this guy was from!). They passed on me via an email to my recruiter. So yeah... 1 offer out of 4. But it was with one of the best companies I interviewed with... rocket company was exciting, but honestly Amazon is probably going to be much better for my career, and the project I'm on seems genuinely interesting. I totally blew the negotiating part, hilariously bad, to the point where the recruiter laughed at me. I'm not too upset though, my salary is 60k more than my last job, not counting the RSUs. I knew the gap between FAANG and small/medium sized companies was big, but I had no idea it was that big. Anyway this post got super long, but in the interest of IMPROVING MYSELF as someone suggested I do earlier in the thread, I do have some takeaways: The idea to take a break from working was a really bad one. Every single interviewer ignored the end date of my last job, they all assumed I still worked there, so then you gotta correct them and that colors everything you say after that. You think it'll be fun and freeing, but in reality every day that goes by is one day further away from your last job. I also think the lack of a big company on my resume hurt me, so this job should fix both those issues and I hope to be here awhile. tl;dr I got a job at amazon with plenty of figgies ADINSX fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Apr 3, 2019 |
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mekkanare posted:poo poo. I don't have any references. my last two jobs didn't even ask for references post-interview. the one before that asked for them post-interview, and then didn't call them. don't sweat it until you're post-interview and somebody asks for them. (if someone asks you pre-interview, don't give'em up -- that can only hurt you, since it won't be hiring managers calling for references at that early stage. you might piss off the people who agreed to help you, and an endorsement from some hr flunky won't count for very much in the post-interview hiring process)
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Sapozhnik posted:How should I go about coming up with an acceptable figgie range for contract work if I've only ever done FTE as a rule of thumb start with literally double your normal annual rate, figured annually. to take the 100k example, that's $52 an hour (48 weeks, 40 hours a week) as an annualized rate, so your minimum bill rate should be $104 an hour. by definition it's a temporary job without benefits, and with an impaired tax situation. people expect to pay more. (they are hiring a contractor either because they are dumber than poo poo, or because they explicitly want a temporary employee who won't be butthurt about being cut loose after 6-12-24 months -- your rate can help you distinguish type a from type b)
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frustrating poo poo you're gonna pay for yourself as a contractor:
frustrating poo poo you might pay for, depending on your contract and desperation:
this poo poo stacks up don't sell yourself short hiring a contractor always costs a lot more than an employee, and if it ever doesn't, the contractor got fuuuuucked
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do you guys not know about w2 contracting? probably half the people in the whole tech industry are permatemps
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qirex posted:do you guys not know about w2 contracting? probably half the people in the whole tech industry are permatemps w2 contracting only touches the tax issues also the availability may vary by state. i know broaching the issue of w2 contracting was loving radioactive in my neck of the woods, when i was going about that poo poo i had to be set up for 1099. asking for an extra 8% didn't involve people looking at me like i had just dropped a deuce on the table
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