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Boiled Water posted:britain is weird. half the computer - software kind of jobs are way way below what you'd get even in neighboring countries, with a couple of sky high salaries. I wonder what their end game to that is. This also doesn't seem to take contracting into account. Exactly the same work, but more money and freedom, at the expense of not getting paid during holidays/sickness, not getting company benefits like pensions/shares/insurance etc, and potentially less security. Given 8 weeks off a year and paying in €1000/month to your pension, the equivalent of €90-140k is pretty realistic for a mid-senior dev, in London at least.
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toiletbrush posted:Not sure what countries you're talking about, but this puts the UK pretty high up the list in Europe, only Switzerland is significantly higher (US is way out in front) there's definitely a big split between some london jobs, mostly finance, which pay well, and almost everywhere else which pays like poo poo. current pet peeve: remote jobs which are US only, but don't think it's worth mentioning at any point in the job ad or application process
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pointsofdata posted:there's definitely a big split between some london jobs, mostly finance, which pay well, and almost everywhere else which pays like poo poo. that is really goofy. I have many friends based here (chicago) who do remote work based in france/uk/holland/germany. I don't know if it has anything to do with weird sponsorship stuff or tax treaties; a lot of the remote workers I know are practicing lawyers in insurance/reinsurance and have to visit the EU office quarterly
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Asleep Style posted:Just had a phone interview with a company that saw my 1.5 years of development experience and thought I would be a fit for a senior software engineer. It went well and they're moving me on to step two. Keep your fingers crossed for me because this would nearly double the ol salary Update: got an offer  Nearly double ended up being an exaggeration, but I'm pretty pumped about a >60% raise and two more weeks of PTO. I'm not really looking forward to giving notice because I like a lot of things about my current job, I'm just underpaid big time
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Asleep Style posted:Update: got an offer  congrats friend
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Asleep Style posted:Update: got an offer  nicely done. stack that paper
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Asleep Style posted:Update: got an offer congrats you deserve it
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Thanks friends. It feels kind of gross to be celebrating when so many people are unemployed and the job market is real bad, but obviously that wasn't enough to stop me
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Jun 10, 2020 01:31
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whats a good book for revising stupid fizzbuzz problems?
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Asleep Style posted:Thanks friends. It feels kind of gross to be celebrating when so many people are unemployed and the job market is real bad, but obviously that wasn't enough to stop me Don't feel bad unless you're directly pulling someone else down imo, like spilling coffee on them in the wait room on purpose or something. Congrats!
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vodkat posted:whats a good book for revising stupid fizzbuzz problems? I think Cracking the Coding Interview is still the standard? Or you can just go on Leetcode, though the explanations there are a little hit or miss and some of the problems are just plain bad.
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vodkat posted:whats a good book for revising stupid fizzbuzz problems? I usually use Hackerrank for interview prep but CTCI gets the most recommendations.
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lol i have to give a presentation for my interview. is this common? has anyone done anything like this?
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very common for sales and presales roles, but I’m guessing it’s not one of those?
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qsvui posted:lol i have to give a presentation for my interview. is this common? has anyone done anything like this? I've run into that a few times, but for various "scientist" roles. What are you interviewing for?
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a friend of mine had to give a presentation in the interview for an infosec job at activision
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had a job where the interview was essentially a full day on a hands on small technical project and the final step was presenting your work with a short written report (think email) and small 5-15min presentation over video to show how you could communicate your project on a remote team. it was gruelling poo poo but the report part was kind of clever to spot people who’d have a hard time communicating while remote.
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we close out our interview process with a team presentation where we ask candidates to present on something they've worked on (that they're allowed to obv) or something they're interested in we don't really care too much about the content of the talk. we've had candidates present on frontend frameworks, load balancing strategies, microservices vs monolith, and even one guy who presented about nuclear submarine cooling mechanics. what's important for us, and we're very upfront about it with the candidate, is that we want to see how they discuss things they're interested in. how do they handle questions? what kind of opinions do they have about what they're presenting? etc. it's been a really good way for us to double check whether there are any communication issues folks might have noticed and to also give us all a chance to listen to the candidate at the same time rather than in groups of 2 for the other parts of the interview
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Jun 13, 2020 14:38
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I'd take a presentation over a whiteboard round any day.
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ultrafilter posted:I'd take a presentation over a whiteboard round any day. Cosigned.
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we do both but our whiteboard exercises are 1 reasonably simple algorithm session and 1 systems design session that both scale in difficulty and complexity depending on the role and the candidate's experience. for frontend positions, the systems design one is usually swapped out for a frontend-specific exercise but for senior and lead candidates we sometimes will do all 3 interviewing is hard to do well and even though our process is designed to be as accommodating as possible to the candidate i still feel like it needs to be better but idk how
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yeah my current job I got doing all-day whiteboard sessions, an hour or so with each person, 6 different people, and lunch. presentation would be a little nerve-racking, but at least you can thoroughly prepare for it and have it down cold. whiteboards can go anywhere and I have seen them go to dark dark places.
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A bad interview can build on itself. like, where everyone knows this is going badly at 9:45am and you still have to keep whiteboarding until 4pm. a bad start in the morning can really mess with your head. i had one interview where they didn’t have me on the schedule at reception, so I tried to call my contact (a recruiter) but got a voicemail saying she was no longer an employee. tried to get reception to call the hiring manager, they left him a voicemail but couldn’t find him. turns out they were all in a room waiting for me and not at their desks, but reception didn’t know it. after 25 minutes sitting in the lobby I told security I was leaving but they should call me if they wanted to reschedule. i got a call from the manager 5 minutes down the road and after a little talk he wanted to go ahead with it anyway. i had blocked off the whole day for it so I agreed and turned around. I ended up walking into a room pretty flustered myself and meeting three people who were not happy about sitting in a conference room for 45 minutes now, and it just went downhill from there.
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EIDE Van Hagar posted:A bad interview can build on itself. Jesus, how many  s did you need?E: That might not be fair, I certainly don't know about the situation you were in at the time and I've certainly been in situations where I wasn't in a position to turn down any interviews no matter how lovely the setup/firm/gig.
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Schadenboner posted:Jesus, how many in Jan/Feb I resolved to change jobs and just did every interview I could get. that one was a design / verification job at a big (top 5 largest) semiconductor company so it was pretty surprising that it was that disorganized. the questions I got on the bad interviews really helped a lot after not interviewing for about a decade. i’m at a fabless design place now and it’s pretty great.
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EIDE Van Hagar posted:A bad interview can build on itself. This is terrible. You can't blame the candidate for sitting in the lobby for 30 minutes while the company is trying to get it's act together.
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asur posted:This is terrible. You can't blame the candidate for sitting in the lobby for 30 minutes while the company is trying to get it's act together. yeah lol I would extend the same courtesy I would want them to extend to me if I hosed up and was late: offer to reschedule on another day. poo poo happens sometimes, balls get dropped, and you work around it when you can. but if they give you poo poo about their fuckup, then just laugh and hang up
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https://twitter.com/JohnCleese/status/1273352081718472706 https://twitter.com/JohnCleese/status/1273352694950801413
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"2–99 years of experience working on a software engineering team building robust production software, with knowledge of how to write maintainable, reliable code (our engineers use Python, but it's OK if your experience is in another language)" 99 years of software
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do you get upset when toy packaging says "ages 4-104"?
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the idea of 99 years of software for an entry level position was funny, to me.
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They're probably still not going to hire anyone over 25.
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ultrafilter posted:They're probably still not going to hire anyone over 25. but also not hire any actual junior who might require training
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My experience searching right now would agree with both of those assessments in general! But that may be sour grapes
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Sleng Teng posted:My experience searching right now would agree with both of those assessments in general! But that may be sour grapes slaps thread title. This bad boy can contain so much of your resume you have to fill in yourself
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I've asked this in interviews at my lovely retail store for 30 years. What do you upsell to your family at home?
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how many companies that ask that q also have a weasely “any code you create on your own time is the property of $company” clause in the contract, i bet it’s a lot
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its kinda weird cuz the fact that we can touch computers at home massively improves our batna which is why i got paid more than 90% of aerospace eng peeps at my first job out of school "tell us about your capability to gently caress us" is not sneaky i guess but it seems like a question to answer w/ a little dissembling
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jesus WEP posted:how many companies that ask that q also have a weasely “any code you create on your own time is the property of $company” clause in the contract, i bet it’s a lot mine had that, that's why I showed them the one other offer without it and thus it was gone well it actually took two steps, they tried to slip it in again in an addendum when making me sign various health and safety bits and bobs they say they're very keen on treating employees as family, and I mean it does fit in a way, for some families Private Speech fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Jun 27, 2020 |
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