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Steve Jorbs posted:They all explicitly mentioned it to some degree, no surprises. I've also been avoiding the stuff like "front end engineer with 5+ years experience in these technologies" it's probably the recruiters who don't know wtf they're doing scheduling the call and i can guarantee you that nine times out of ten the engineer interviewing you is looking at your resume for the first time the moment the call starts that's just how it is
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:yeah I mean I have been working in finance IT for 10+ years and it has its good points, such as: this all tracks, especially the part about those fuckers in ops. find a boss who can give you enough air cover to work on professional development and it’s a good gig.
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going to apply for a director position at my company, probably not going to get it but I figure just applying will help my profile
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it's easy to be a superstar in finance by simply meeting your goals and commitments because 90% of people can't manage that if you think something's going to take 2 weeks you give yourself 3 weeks and deliver on the exact day you said even if you were done last friday, you'll get your full bonus every year oh yeah they also pay actual bonuses, usually in the 2-4 paycheck range
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qirex posted:going to apply for a director position at my company, probably not going to get it but I figure just applying will help my profile how to accidentally end up with 16 direct reports and 20 hours of 1:1s a week
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raminasi posted:this all tracks, especially the part about those fuckers in ops. find a boss who can give you enough air cover to work on professional development and it’s a good gig. my boss is good but he's as screwed by our nonsense hiring policies as everyone else so a lot of the time his answer is "lol what did you think I can do about it?" qirex posted:it's easy to be a superstar in finance by simply meeting your goals and commitments because 90% of people can't manage that this is bang on. Every finance project is a shambles because there are generally two or three PMs to every developer involved, and people confuse "volume of project artefacts" with "tangible progress" but it means that you can say whatever you want as an estimate and it will generally get accepted because nobody actually has any idea about the solution I've been doing this for years and only very, very, rarely does someone call me on it.
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it's also ok to miss estimates but only if you give enough warning, like if you're 6 weeks into a 12 week project and you say you're going to need 3 more weeks that's chill but if you're 11 weeks in and say you need 2 more you'll look bad communicate bad news as early as possible, half the time they won't even see the email about it or forget it was you
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Mar 9, 2021 22:35
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i should get into finance. healthcare doesnt pay enough
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Trimson Grondag 3 posted:how to accidentally end up with 16 direct reports and 20 hours of 1:1s a week if they pay me like a director I can put up with that [it's only 5 direct reports so far]
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Mar 9, 2021 22:38
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hobbesmaster posted:over/under 6.5 figgies? how do you have a .5 fig? like does that mean 150k? 316k? 500k?
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Mar 9, 2021 22:55
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oh boy fractional figgie chat and the answer is yes, all three
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Mar 9, 2021 22:56
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also it matters whether the qualifier is decent or dece
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Poopernickel posted:how do you have a .5 fig? 6.5 dece figgies is 316k.
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Mar 9, 2021 23:03
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I have a seven figure job but 6 of them are after the decimal
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PCjr sidecar posted:also it matters whether the qualifier is decent or dece also if there’s a p in there or not
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5 figgies dece 6 figgies p dece " " v dece " " e dece " " nice " " 7 figgies
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Ah Yes, My Figures Appear Quite Meritorious This Fiscal Year 2021, Indeed. Exemplary.
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Poopernickel posted:how do you have a .5 fig? i am a firm believer in the middle number
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150k in a secondary figgieland, 316k in figgieland prime, 500k in the figgieland of our dreams
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TimWinter posted:Ah Yes, My Figures Appear Quite Meritorious This Fiscal Year 2021, Indeed. Exemplary. m'figgies
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figgies are a log scale so 6.5 figgies is ~300k
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jfc interviewing sucks so much. after several months of suffering though an offer finally came in and it's for +20% in salary alone. i was weak and named a number that was well above what i'm making now and which i consider to be quite good, and they just went "sure" and offered that number which is a sure sign i am an idiot for naming the number. i'm v bad at negotiating about money because i just don't care that much. still, i'm happy with some v deece figgies for the area. there's also stock options that are hypothetically worth another 10-15% or so but the company is not publicly traded so in practice they're worth jack poo poo. job is still webshit but at least it's a legitimately good product. 
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Mar 11, 2021 22:41
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what was the number you gave
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TheFluff posted:jfc interviewing sucks so much. after several months of suffering though an offer finally came in and it's for +20% in salary alone. i was weak and named a number that was well above what i'm making now and which i consider to be quite good, and they just went "sure" and offered that number which is a sure sign i am an idiot for naming the number. i'm v bad at negotiating about money because i just don't care that much. still, i'm happy with some v deece figgies for the area. there's also stock options that are hypothetically worth another 10-15% or so but the company is not publicly traded so in practice they're worth jack poo poo. job is still webshit but at least it's a legitimately good product. hell yeah congrats on the big raise. don't get too down on yourself for not negotiating well, it's hard to be good at something you rarely do. 20% is nothing to sneeze at and now you will be better prepared when you eventually leave the new place.
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congrats and all but i'm gonna go ahead and spoil how the stock stuff will endTheFluff posted:...they're worth jack poo poo...
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You can print them out and wrap fish in them. That's something.
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bob dobbs is dead posted:what was the number you gave 60k SEK/month. I'm in Stockholm. babby tier by figgieland standards but ridiculous money by my standards. I already save like half of my current salary every month. TheFluff fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Mar 12, 2021 |
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you negotiate to get what you want and you got exactly what you asked for so it sounds like you made out alright If that’s not actually what you wanted, well, ask for what you want next time
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yes my salary expectations are the maximum budgeted for this position
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Mar 12, 2021 03:22
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go over what you can actually afford, but also give a 15% raise year over year. If you can take it from an underrepresented group's wages instead that would be swell and in line with the market
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why limit yourself to the budget? in all seriousness, I once hosed up and named a number, and then they gave me more than I asked for, so if you'd have been happy with the money without negotiating, you're doing great.
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budgets for individuals dont really exist, its what hiring manager can dredge up and defend via negotiations cool beans on gettin eurofigs, try for amerifigs next time and one day you may make figgieland figs retirement is like tsiolkovsky rocket eq. more of your salary as a % you save the quicker it comes and that ratio is basically the thing to worry about
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got my 5% for exceeds expectations, looking around anyway because i have a sense of impending doom
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Steve Jorbs posted:They all explicitly mentioned it to some degree, no surprises. I've also been avoiding the stuff like "front end engineer with 5+ years experience in these technologies" what is your experience actually in?
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imo this report yesterday is recommended reading for anyone who is approached to work for Apple, or who interviews someone with recent Apple experience. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/11/apple-lawsuit-shows-the-companys-extreme-focus-on-secrecy.html Apple's software project secrecy is on a level that I would describe as extreme, and that other profitable companies manage to do without. As I've mentioned before, I worked about 3 months for them last year through an agency and at no point found out what project, or what kind of project I was working on, except that it was connected with a particular corporate acquisition. Then Apple dumped the agency I was in without any explanation of that either. Although I probably could have gone back into the same project through another agency, I did not, because the project used an obscure tech stack other than the one that the recruiter had represented, and because I was ticked off by the secrecy. I'm now employed again, despite the difficulty that comes with being literally unable to tell companies what I worked on in my previous job and possibly being presumed a liar. Did not try again, would not recommend. Gazpacho fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Mar 12, 2021 |
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quote:Any person at an Apple facility without a company badge must be escorted by an Apple employee.
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for a couple of years, my family lived like 500 yards from 1 infinity loop and used to walk my dog around their campus just cause i thought it was cool. i cant imagine youd be able to do that now, but the 2021 version of my family also couldnt afford to live anywhere in cupertino anyways so 
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ps: the closest thing i got to a termination reason was a rumor that the agency had violated apple's disclosure policy in some way that i had nothing to do with
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Hey, I'm interviewing internally to move jobs from maintaining semiconductor test equipment to writing the programs that run on said test equipment. I have no electrical engineering knowledge, which isn't a big deal, but I dabbled in python that I self-taught to automate the annoying parts of my job. The hiring manager told me that in the interview they might ask me to some pseudocode questions, which I've never done before. I've been open about not being much of a computer-toucher but I still want to look good. I was thinking of spending some prep time finishing up a script I have for work as a refresher and making it look... presentable (methods! a config file! wow). Is that going to be enough or should I try out some of those interview questions online?
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i mean the worst case scenario for doing some leetcode problems is learning to be a better programmer so i'd say go ahead and do that?
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