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qhat posted:Honestly for me, 2-3 months. It's unlikely you'll get a job in 4 weeks of applying. hm, guess i’m starting this weekend. 
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yeah why not as soon as possible and letting them know what your plans are? either they can make it work or they can't
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Mar 15, 2018 17:34
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quote:Hi *******, working with ole musky directly that sounds great!1
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Mar 15, 2018 17:42
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think you'd get fired if you said "ol musky" to his face?
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Rex-Goliath posted:yeah why not as soon as possible and letting them know what your plans are? either they can make it work or they can't yeah i think you guys are right. i was hoping i could line up in-person interviews more easily by waiting a bit, but i’m just going to start now and if people move faster than expected oh well.
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Mar 15, 2018 18:08
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gonadic io posted:Sorry this breaks down a bit through external recruiters. They will 100% lowball you to the company and even if you refuse to give them a number they'll make up a low one for you. gently caress external recruiters. Hoowfully it works out, I told the external recruiter a pretty high number and he said "they should have the budget for that", for comparison i have told the same number to many other rando external recruiters and they tell me to politely gently caress off
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Mar 15, 2018 18:11
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Lol got an interview for next week. Time to negotiate for big figgies.
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Mar 15, 2018 19:06
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ok so whoever said recruters can't tell time is correct. the one what ghosted me two weeks ago asked if i still wanted to talk i set up another call and they failed to call me again yesterday
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Mar 15, 2018 19:52
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HoboMan posted:ok so whoever said recruters can't tell time is correct. the one what ghosted me two weeks ago asked if i still wanted to talk recruiters are dipshits across the board
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Mar 15, 2018 20:06
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jony neuemonic posted:yeah i think you guys are right. i was hoping i could line up in-person interviews more easily by waiting a bit, but i’m just going to start now and if people move faster than expected oh well. Also, if you're the right candidate, companies will wait for you.
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Mar 15, 2018 20:07
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those who can, do those who cant, recruit
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Mar 15, 2018 20:11
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FMguru posted:those who can, do
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Mar 15, 2018 20:43
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FMguru posted:those who can, do
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Mar 15, 2018 20:54
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quote:Hi OWLS! The level of word salad has certainly reached hyper-growth mode
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I thought hyper growth was just a term my CEO uses. I didn't realise it was a general identifier of idiots.
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Mar 16, 2018 01:31
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More like diaper growth
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Mar 16, 2018 02:28
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Gazpacho posted:More like diaper growth
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Mar 16, 2018 02:40
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I interviewed with a three-man start up in a dream last night and couldn't answer questions from my own subconscious. At the end I give the manager a firm handshake and then said "let go of my hand you jerk." then I found out my car had been towed
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Mar 16, 2018 15:17
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i really hate when my dreams are too real as well
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Mar 16, 2018 16:01
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i just got an email from a recruiter about joining a team that "works with a proprietary language"
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Mar 16, 2018 16:03
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HoboMan posted:i just got an email from a recruiter about joining a team that "works with a proprietary language" lmao
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Mar 16, 2018 16:23
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i love it when recruiters have no idea what appeals to engineers
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Mar 16, 2018 16:39
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Pollyanna posted:i love it when recruiters have no idea what appeals to engineers Gazpacho fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Mar 16, 2018 |
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Mar 16, 2018 16:53
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Gazpacho posted:sometimes descriptiosn like that are written by a dev to subtly warn people away. i saw an example in amazon warehouse software there's something to be said for just laying everything on the table. yeah it'll take longer to find someone but they're less likely to run away screaming two weeks in.
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Mar 16, 2018 16:57
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jony neuemonic posted:there's something to be said for just laying everything on the table. yeah it'll take longer to find someone but they're less likely to run away screaming two weeks in. yeah it not really helpful to your company to con someone into taking the job.
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sanity checkquestionarre posted:What is a single page application? What are some advantages and disadvantages of implementation? me posted:A single page application basically a JavaScript application that is delivered via a web page.
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HoboMan posted:sanity check You compared SPAs with native apps but I think they're probably asking you to compare SPAs with a "conventional" website where most interactions cause an entire new page load. Actually now I think about it I'm not sure what they wanted you to compare SPAs with.
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I think they’re trying to figure that out too 
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kloa posted:I think they’re trying to figure that out too judging by the follow-up questions i am guessing this is the case "if you were to make a new single page app what frameworks would you recommend?" "when debugging a single page app what tools do you usually use?"
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HoboMan posted:judging by the follow-up questions i am guessing this is the case react with redux for state management if necessary. debugging using chrome dev tools + react/redux extensions. this smells like a full stack or front-end position. are you sure you want that?
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Blinkz0rz posted:react with redux for state management if necessary. debugging using chrome dev tools + react/redux extensions. yeah, that's what i answered probably not what i want, but i am rusty at interviewing and for enough money i could give a poo poo
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i hate webshit in general but react with redux and a type checker is the first time i've done webshit coding and not hated every minute of the experience. so, you know, there's that.
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HoboMan posted:sanity check you kind of said why a web app is better than a desktop app what they are getting at (i think) is why a single page application (your server probably only has 1 url route defined to index html, this loads your single page app, the rest of the routing is handled by your javascript app on the front end and page transitions are just ajax calls and front end changes, its not *really* changing to a new page, no additional server side rendering) is better than a traditional web app (like something awful, where every new page is being rendered and delivered by the server instead)
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Sapozhnik posted:i hate webshit in general but react with redux and a type checker is the first time i've done webshit coding and not hated every minute of the experience. so, you know, there's that. yeah it's surprisingly good because the patterns are well thought out and concerns are separated into something that resembles sanity
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are you guys using typescript when you code in js? trying to find a way to not hate js in the future if I ever need to touch it again. (im gonna have to touch js again aren’t i  )
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kloa posted:are you guys using typescript when you code in js? trying to find a way to not hate js in the future if I ever need to touch it again. I've used it, but usually lovely frameworks force you to cast half your poo poo to Any half the time anyway.
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I'm using react and redux without typescript. on one hand react and redux are amazing and make some previously hard problems much easier. on the other hand I'm having to use the debugger a fuckton more because my group makes all kinds of objects containing all kinds of data and the only way I know what's inside them is by actually looking at an object. we generally don't have many issues with developers doing stupid things like assigning two different types to the same variable but I definitely feel like it's harder to reason about some complex objects since they're not defined anywhere.
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typescript has made a few of my node modules way easier to maintain and generally more pleasant to work with react has become my preferred framework for front end web stuff. I've been curious how well it plays with typescript, but so far i haven't felt a pressing need to combine them angular still sucks
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