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my favorite is asking both the hiring manager and potential teammates "What is the most miserable aspect of the role?"
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op questions got me two jobs
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op questions have left interviewers visibly shook sometimes, like they weren't expecting to have to think about anything
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PokeJoe posted:op questions have left interviewers visibly shook sometimes, like they weren't expecting to have to think about anything reversefungi posted:"Can I get a short product demo at some point during the interview process, to have a better understanding of what I'd be working on?"
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PokeJoe posted:op questions have left interviewers visibly shook sometimes, like they weren't expecting to have to think about anything it was at that point I realised the power you have as an interviewee and it made all my other interviews since then 10x easier
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I still think the "company values" thing is a bit of a  question for anything that isn't like, an actual workers' co-op but that's just melike amazon's constant prattling on about The Twelve Management Herbs and Spices and their insistence that you obediently wag your tail and recite them right there in the interview is just absolutely nauseating. "loving the labor market to death so that Jeef has an even more stupendously gigantic pile of loving money", that's Amazon's loving "company values".
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Jun 24, 2022 20:12
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yeah that one and the 'what's the most impressive thing you've seen out of someone else you've interviewed recently' question from the op always struck me as odd.
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company values are definitely a bit of a biz school jackoff opportunity, but i think if the company makes a big deal out of their values it's important to ask how they come up in practice, day-to-day. i have justified a lot of pragmatic rule-breaking by referring to the Official Corporate ValuesTM at this job, am i going to be able to do that at the next place?
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Jun 24, 2022 20:18
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if i were interviewing somebody at my current job and i got that question i would say something like "idk if we have any official corporate values but everyone is really nice and leaves by 5, does that count?"
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Jun 24, 2022 20:25
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Truman Peyote posted:company values are definitely a bit of a biz school jackoff opportunity, but i think if the company makes a big deal out of their values it's important to ask how they come up in practice, day-to-day. i have justified a lot of pragmatic rule-breaking by referring to the Official Corporate ValuesTM at this job, am i going to be able to do that at the next place? I got an honest answer from the boss of the company that he doesn't like that HR wishy-washy corporate speak and he "encourages curiosity" and "expects mistakes" which honestly made him 1000% more approachable for the remainder of the interview.
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Video Nasty posted:he doesn't like that HR wishy-washy corporate speak stuff like this is usually a red flag because it's said by people annoyed that they can't do racism at work
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Jun 24, 2022 22:54
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we have official corporate values but i really don't have any clue what they're supposed to actually mean
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Plorkyeran posted:we have official corporate values but i really don't have any clue what they're supposed to actually mean
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pretty sure our corp values include the phrase 'outrageously audacious' somewhere in there. i janitor fuckin containers for a living. shut up.
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post hole digger posted:pretty sure our corp values include the phrase 'outrageously audacious' somewhere in there. i janitor fuckin containers for a living. shut up. Are they outrageously audacious containers? 
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Video Nasty posted:HR wishy-washy corporate speak my favorite version of this is at large companies where you have “town halls” where a SVP of engineering says one thing about hiring and then the head of HR says in wishy washy speak actually we are going to do none of those things
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our org is in the middle of creating new company values i ran into one of the c-suite folks after a full day of meetings and the guy looked completely washed. glad i don't have to do that poo poo
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“a healthy disregard for the impossible” ummmm…
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hot dog event posted:our org is in the middle of creating new company values
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we used to have a value for collaborating and one for innovating but our exec team, I’m sure with the help of some extremely expensive consultants, came out with “collaborate to unlock innovation” this year so that’s like 2 values on one!
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sorry boss my innovation is still locked
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Achmed Jones posted:sorry boss my innovation is still locked shouldn’t have made the values IoT
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reversefungi posted:I have a continuously growing list of questions in a Google doc. Whenever I run into something that's either "That's awesome, how do I make sure I find this again in the future" or "this is absolute garbage I never want to encounter this in a job again", it goes in the list. An obvious one that has saved me some grief is "Can I get a short product demo at some point during the interview process, to have a better understanding of what I'd be working on?" If they show you a janky pos app, makes it very easy to turn down and move on mind if I put this excellent advice in the op?
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go for it!
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Sapozhnik posted:I still think the "company values" thing is a bit of a Amazon's insistence and coaching in the interview is weird, but asking about the company values gives insight into upper management and then you should follow it up by asking when they've applied it to their work, either in general or a specific value if you find it important,l. This will give you an idea if the values are followed. Definitely a manager question though.
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asur posted:Amazon's insistence and coaching in the interview is weird, but asking about the company values gives insight into upper management and then you should follow it up by asking when they've applied it to their work, either in general or a specific value if you find it important,l. This will give you an idea if the values are followed. Definitely a manager question though. way back like 5 years ago i interviewed for amazon and the recruiter specifically told me to read up about the values. i got a nope due to failing a whiteboard so i am not sure if knowing the values would have mattered a lot or no
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4lokos basilisk posted:way back like 5 years ago i interviewed for amazon and the recruiter specifically told me to read up about the values. I did some online coding screening for them, and after the 2 problems I had about 20 questions about how I feel about company values.
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my org has something like 5 values and its all stuff like "be bold" and "better together" the only time they ever come up is during the performance review cycle where we're expected to describe how our accomplishments exemplify specific values
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AnimeIsTrash posted:I did some online coding screening for them, and after the 2 problems I had about 20 questions about how I feel about company values. I had these too. It was extremely obvious which answer the 'correct' one was for all of them, so I almost wonder if they're testing for enough social awareness to be cutthroat in the Amazon politics cesspool
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Sapozhnik posted:I still think the "company values" thing is a bit of a Agreed. I have no loving clue what my employer's supposed values are, but mine are working on interesting things in a good team and get paid a lot for it. As long as my values are met, idgaf.
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4lokos basilisk posted:way back like 5 years ago i interviewed for amazon and the recruiter specifically told me to read up about the values. I interviewed at Amazon a few years back and after 4 grueling hours of "tell me about a time where you" questions I finally said, "I don't think I have an answer to that" when they asked me to recount an example of some really specific contrived scenario. Afterwards the recruiter told me they passed on me because of that. Not that I cared because I jokingly asked I was going to be working 14 hours a day and the manager's response was, "Well I wouldn't say, quite that long..."
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if anyone wants to know the way you’re supposed to handle that according to Amazon specific interview coaches (a very real thing that exists) you identify the leadership principle (every question should map to one primarily) and tell one of the stories you prepared that is applicable to that leadership principle.
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hobbesmaster posted:if anyone wants to know the way you’re supposed to handle that according to Amazon specific interview coaches (a very real thing that exists) you identify the leadership principle (every question should map to one primarily) and tell one of the stories you prepared that is applicable to that leadership principle. No offence, but that sounds like a bunch of bull-💩.
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yes, behavioral interviews questions are testing your ability to bullshit in a corporate environment
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hobbesmaster posted:yes, behavioral interviews questions are testing your ability to bullshit in a corporate environment Even so, this particular case feels like more BS than usual.
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Quackles posted:No offence, but that sounds like a bunch of bull-💩. that's the point, to filter out people who don't want to eat poo poo for breakfast. they want employees that ask for seconds
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cheque_some posted:I interviewed at Amazon a few years back and after 4 grueling hours of "tell me about a time where you" questions I finally said, "I don't think I have an answer to that" when they asked me to recount an example of some really specific contrived scenario. "tell me about a time you were wrong" is the question I should be asked more often, but it never comes up. "tell me about a time you had a conflict with a coworker" comes up every interview
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PokeJoe posted:that's the point, to filter out people who don't want to eat poo poo for breakfast. they want employees that ask for seconds very much the vibe I got from the interview
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Quackles posted:No offence, but that sounds like a bunch of bull-💩. let me tell you about what jobs are made of, buddy
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champagne posting posted:"tell me about a time you were wrong" is the question I should be asked more often, but it never comes up. If that ever comes up I'll just say "I neglected to prepare for this question."
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