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and yeah, this was in the time between "saying yes" and doing all the hr paperwork
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hello you beautiful bastards I'm looking for any loving entry level/junior software engineering position. Some real talk about my situation tho: I've been dealing with depression/anxiety for drat near 2 decades now. I had a wonderful job lined up out of college and things were going great until sad brains decided "no i think u deserve more misery" and so all that poo poo got hosed up. That was a decade ago. Ever since then I've been struggling to find another job at that level. FAANG companies throughout the years would ping me for jobs but, i know how insane their interviews are and they drove my anxiety up the loving wall. I interviewed once for Google in 2014 and just absolutely blew it cause i could barely formulate sentences. So, i have large gaps on my resume. my last job wasn't even really a software engineering job, it was just some bullshit stepping stone job. with that all being said, my sad brains is much better than before. i can write code, i can read code, i'm a generalist so i'd be happy to learn anything that's needed for the job. but i just need a loving job. i'm reaching the end of my loving rope and am sick and tired of all the loving rejections. honestly i'm posting here out of desperation cause i saw a link from the CoC discord, so i figure gently caress it why not! okay thanks bye guess i'll go wait on the dying part now to see if my luck changes
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Nov 23, 2022 23:27
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if college was a decade ago you should prolly hide the sadbrains stuff and go for midlevel stuff cuz junior hiring ate poo poo and died 4 months ago but midlevel and senior poo poo is chugging along softly
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Nov 23, 2022 23:38
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big companies have new neurodiversity policies/procedures you can take advantage of, request some accommodations to help yourself interview
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Nov 23, 2022 23:45
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strangehamster posted:big companies have new neurodiversity policies/procedures you can take advantage of, request some accommodations to help yourself interview really? would you mind PMing a list of companies? or list them here. whatever policy works best. or something. thank you v much 🙏🏼🙏🏼
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Nov 24, 2022 00:05
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I’ve been looking to climb the ladder, sorry I can only think of Microsoft, Wells Fargo, and Dell that I’ve applied with
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Nov 24, 2022 00:09
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strangehamster posted:I’ve been looking to climb the ladder, sorry I can only think of Microsoft, Wells Fargo, and Dell that I’ve applied with hey i was in touch with MS, I'll try to reach out to them again. thank you much!
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Nov 24, 2022 01:12
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bob dobbs is dead posted:if college was a decade ago you should prolly hide the sadbrains stuff and go for midlevel stuff cuz junior hiring ate poo poo and died 4 months ago but midlevel and senior poo poo is chugging along softly part of the problem is i only held a jr swe position for about a year. but i dunno, i mean sure if i can learn at a midlevel position i'd take that too. i mean, i'd take anything at this point.
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Nov 24, 2022 01:13
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it will prolly be easier to get midlevel interviews than jr interviews, is what im saying
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Nov 24, 2022 01:29
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ive given the advice "practice away the anxiety not the actual code problems too much" so often i should prolly write a formal blog post or article or some poo poo have someone throw tomatoes at you or hit you with a whiffle bat, the presentation and judgement fear is the problem more than dynamic programming bullshit #327 bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Nov 24, 2022 |
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Nov 24, 2022 01:37
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bob dobbs is dead posted:it will prolly be easier to get midlevel interviews than jr interviews, is what im saying for sure, appreciate it <3 bob dobbs is dead posted:ive given the advice "practice away the anxiety not the actual code problems too much" so often i should prolly write a formal blog post or article or some poo poo After fuckin 3 years i finally have a therapist to start tackling this poo poo too, so yay. but i'd totally read that article if you wrote it!
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Nov 24, 2022 02:41
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do you have a location or a type of development in mind? what was your experience in before?
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hobbesmaster posted:do you have a location or a type of development in mind? what was your experience in before? remote would be best but if i have to move for a position, i probably will. any kind of dev work at this point: frontend, backend, full stack, fuckin microcontrollers, CUDA programming, OS/systems level poo poo, cloud poo poo, hell i'll even code in assembly...i don't care, just anything where i can pres butan to make computer go do things. if i have to learn it, i'm more than happy to learn whatever it is i need to for the job. my professional SWE experience was in infrastructure tools development, mostly writing CLI tools in Python. my last job i was initially hired to work on and fix bugs in these big rear end Java EE apps, but a re-org happened about a year into it and i got tossed around doing various poo poo that didn't have to really do with software engineering. then that job exploded and i left late 2019. aaaaaaaand now here i am reaching every avenue i got to find jarb. i've also been trying to get a non-profit software shop going with one of my bffs...it's still in the works but i dunno, maybe these rejections are signs that i should just fuckin open up my own shop and make poo poo i want and sell it, i dunno. pliable fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Nov 24, 2022 |
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Nov 24, 2022 02:58
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PIZZA.BAT posted:interview went really well. just one left this friday with the guy who will be my euro counterpart ah i was wrong. i thought it was the last interview but they’d never actually said that. two more left, one with another founder and a technical grilling. with every interview with a higher up i’m learning more about how they’re running things and getting more sold on the job. so now i’m starting to get a bit anxious about the future interviews because i actually want this to happen instead of just hearing out their pitch. next week should be it. i can do this
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Nov 24, 2022 20:51
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get that bread, goon
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on the one hand grats but on the other hand it does seem a bit excessive. who are they expecting to filter out after 4+ rounds that they can't filter out after 3? the process ought to be: hr screen to filter out psychos, tech screen to filter out stackoverflow reciters, in-depth tech interview lasting several hours to evaluate ability to perform technical work and be tolerable to work with on a personal level, and once that is done the hiring party really needs to poo poo or get off the pot maybe if it's an extremely hot up-and-coming company they can search for somebody who simultaneously holds in-depth technical knowledge and also utters the correct ruling-class shibboleths to be allowed to work alongside ruling-class senior management, but i guess that's more for the 7+ figgie crew itt
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Sapozhnik posted:on the one hand grats but on the other hand it does seem a bit excessive. who are they expecting to filter out after 4+ rounds that they can't filter out after 3? Even this seems excessive, I mean what do you learn from round 3 and the technical grill? . At least in Denmark if you hire someone you can very easily get of them inside the first couple of weeks so if they're awful you can just can them. I would recommend anyone who can to reject interviews that go through more than two rounds really. I mean what could you possibly learn from putting people on a grill that wont show up early in employment? My most egregious example is a company in Copenhagen who wanted to subject me to seven rounds of interviewing for a full stack position. Told 'em no, not gonna spend that much of my free time on you have you lost your mind? also not gonna miss an opportunity to post this https://leftalign.substack.com/p/are-tech-interviews-broken-or-is?s=w
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to be fair only one of these interviews is a technical grilling. all the others are with the various higher ups in the company and it’s more of a conversation than an interview. we’re making sure that we both understand each other in terms of expectations with the role, the company, the customers, etc. i’m going to be expected to hit the ground running not just in a technical capacity but i’ll also be employee #1 in this role with the expectation to grow out the department into a global footprint. so yeah i don’t think it’s asking too much here. they’re looking for someone with a very specific intersection of qualities and stand to waste a ton of time if they grab the wrong person also if these were back to back in a single day it’d be half a day of talking to peeps. it just seems like a lot because it’s so spread out
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got an offer letter with ip assignment language that i think is too onerous, wish me luck in getting it fixed
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Nov 29, 2022 22:24
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youre prolly hosed but gl hf
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bob dobbs is dead posted:youre prolly hosed but gl hf then i walk, this is a deal-breaker for me. it's kinda nice having the surety actually.
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raminasi posted:got an offer letter with ip assignment language that i think is too onerous, wish me luck in getting it fixed Tell them you have the right to unplug your cable modem whenever you want and you can't control what Comcast gives you
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i did the trick of naming 16 ideas i've had cooking and also a few things vague enough that they could map to a variety of new ideas in the "preexisting IP" section when i had to sign for IP related stuff and it felt safe enough to me.
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I did that too and then my new employer wanted to see all of them but in the end it was fine
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the assignment clause isn’t actually the problem, it’s a standard “we own things you invent on company time or using company equipment or company knowledge.” i don’t mind that. i mind the part where i have to disclose to them everything i invent even if it won’t be assigned to them because it has nothing to do with them. i probably wouldn’t even mind that if the company weren’t partially owned by venture capitalists, but it is, and i don’t trust them. they also want me to ask for permission to do any outside work or consulting or business activity, which, no. i’m happy to disclose what I’m doing (it’s not much and it’s on my own time) but you don’t get to veto.
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raminasi posted:the assignment clause isn’t actually the problem, it’s a standard “we own things you invent on company time or using company equipment or company knowledge.” i don’t mind that. i mind the part where i have to disclose to them everything i invent even if it won’t be assigned to them because it has nothing to do with them. i probably wouldn’t even mind that if the company weren’t partially owned by venture capitalists, but it is, and i don’t trust them. oh yeah that is fine, the bad ones are when they own all ip you create during the course of your employment same for outside work, it's pretty normal and, well, they probably wouldn't find out anyway
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Private Speech posted:I did that too and then my new employer wanted to see all of them lol the whole point is they're mine so i'd tell your employer to gently caress off for that
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PIZZA.BAT posted:ah i was wrong. i thought it was the last interview but they’d never actually said that. two more left, one with another founder and a technical grilling. with every interview with a higher up i’m learning more about how they’re running things and getting more sold on the job. so now i’m starting to get a bit anxious about the future interviews because i actually want this to happen instead of just hearing out their pitch. next week should be it. i can do this tech grill went really well. the interviewer straight up ended the call with, ‘we really need someone with your skills here’ so yay. only one call left with the ceo and we should be golden my guess is the ceo interview is just because the company is barely still small enough that he can manage the time to talk to every new hire and it’ll just be a formality. fingers crossed
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PIZZA.BAT posted:tech grill went really well. the interviewer straight up ended the call with, ‘we really need someone with your skills here’ so yay. only one call left with the ceo and we should be golden good luck brother
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Private Speech posted:oh yeah that is fine, the bad ones are when they own all ip you create during the course of your employment i've never encountered stuff like this before. i've seen "we own (x), you have to tell us about (x)" and "this is a full-time job, you can't have any other full-time jobs," but this is beyond those. it's not the worst for sure but my batna is well-compensated coasting so if these clauses don't actually matter then they can either strike them, cripple them per my requests, or gently caress off.
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i am 90% sure i'm the first of their hires who's actually read any of this poo poo so i'm not just doing it for me, i'm doing it for future employees too
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my ip clause is that anything i invent while being employed, i have to offer to sell to my employer first. i guess it's a pretty cool way of dealing with it?
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Corla Plankun posted:i did the trick of naming 16 ideas i've had cooking and also a few things vague enough that they could map to a variety of new ideas in the "preexisting IP" section when i had to sign for IP related stuff and it felt safe enough to me. I wanted to make an app that did nothing but turn on the flashlight and then when you quit it turned it off contemporaneous flashlight apps required you to push a button once inside the app. I felt this was appalling but then apple released an ios update and the torch became free. my dreams were lost forever. god drat I am depressed lmao
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PIZZA.BAT posted:tech grill went really well. the interviewer straight up ended the call with, ‘we really need someone with your skills here’ so yay. only one call left with the ceo and we should be golden good luck brother
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PIZZA.BAT posted:the interviewer straight up ended the call with, ‘we really need someone with your skills here’ every time you hear something like this should add $20k to your ask, lmao
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Raluek posted:every time you hear something like this should add $20k to your ask, lmao the big problem is that due to their size & fact that i’m the first person in this role being hired there isn’t any data at all on glassdoor for me to use. i was able to hold my ground on not saying a number with the first call with the external recruiter so she told me $currentSalary + 30%. it’s quite high in my opinion, especially for someone based in pittsburgh, not silicon valley. i feel like that’s already going to be the upper end of their range, and it’s a number that will enable me to be VERY comfortable. like straight up pay the rest of my mortgage in short order comfortable. so yeah i’m thinking i may be on the ‘know when you’ve won’ side of the negotiation. granted this is going to have a bit of light sales sprinkled in as well so negotiating shouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing
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PIZZA.BAT posted:i know you’re half joking but i’m really hoping the salary talk at the end of this doesn’t sink the whole thing #blessed #getthosefiggies
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While it sounds like you're gonna make out well, I'd say Always Negotiate unless they really do blow you out of your socks. Just ask. The worst they'll say is no, they won't yank the offer unless they're absolutely awful anyway. I just did this with a position that offered me a 25% raise at a major step forward in my career. Asked for an extra 10% on top of their base salary. Didn't get it all, but ended up with a better base + substantial signing bonus. Just for asking. (Not pictured, the week-long panic attack while I waited for their response. I'd say it was worth a 5-figure payout though)
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Not a Children posted:While it sounds like you're gonna make out well, I'd say Always Negotiate unless they really do blow you out of your socks. Just ask. The worst they'll say is no, they won't yank the offer unless they're absolutely awful anyway. Definitely ask for more. But it sounds like you might be teambuilding? Also ask for more for anybody you’ll be hiring.
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