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if you want some skin crawling advice take a useless PM bait cert class (i.e. SAFe) and use it to network
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PokeJoe posted:if you want some skin crawling advice take a useless PM bait cert class (i.e. SAFe) and use it to network if you want to network i think you want the CCNA
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Mar 9, 2023 01:31
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its all poop from a butt
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Mar 9, 2023 01:46
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also keep in mind that the original thread was titled 'interviewing is garbage' for a reason job hunting loving sucks
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Mar 9, 2023 02:01
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PokeJoe posted:if you want some skin crawling advice take a useless PM bait cert class (i.e. SAFe) and use it to network lol I did a udemy cert course that I played at 1.5x and paid $16 for I feel like people in cert courses are all going for the same roles, no? seems counterproductive
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Mar 9, 2023 02:17
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PIZZA.BAT posted:also keep in mind that the original thread was titled 'interviewing is garbage' for a reason
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Mar 9, 2023 02:19
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theflyingexecutive posted:lol I did a udemy cert course that I played at 1.5x and paid $16 for knowing other people in the industry you intend to work in is not counterproductive, it is in fact very productive most orgs that you're going to want to work at do not employ just one pm, and knowing someone that already does a pm job at that org gives you the inside line on a referral and potential job.
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Mar 9, 2023 02:23
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knowing peeps _in_ the industry tho you didnt answer my question back before about the pipeline. how many resumes have you sent out, and how many of those yielded at least phone screens, etc?
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Mar 9, 2023 02:29
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what the gently caress is a "phone screen" in 2023
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bob dobbs is dead posted:knowing peeps _in_ the industry tho I'm at 0 for 20 right now (1 rejection, the rest non responses), most not in tech though, but in direct healthcare. all that's been in the last two weeks
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Mar 9, 2023 02:49
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theflyingexecutive posted:lol I did a udemy cert course that I played at 1.5x and paid $16 for  so is everyone in class with you at school. sometimes jobs have more than one opening over time
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Mar 9, 2023 02:56
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You need an IRL class not an online video thing. The class itself won't teach you anything your goal is to meet people to link you to a job. Hell ask the instructor they usually get a bit of feedback from each class they teach on who gets hired and where
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Mar 9, 2023 02:57
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nudgenudgetilt posted:what the gently caress is a "phone screen" in 2023 zoom screen, sometimes hr screen, first thingy that makes sure you are not a crazy person, etc
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Mar 9, 2023 03:13
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theflyingexecutive posted:I'm at 0 for 20 right now (1 rejection, the rest non responses), most not in tech though, but in direct healthcare. all that's been in the last two weeks 20 in a few weeks is not spam, 20 per day is spam
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Mar 9, 2023 03:14
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ya send more resumes. or be a bigger linkedin whore. stick that leg out
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nudgenudgetilt posted:what the gently caress is a "phone screen" in 2023 it me
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bob dobbs is dead posted:20 in a few weeks is not spam, 20 per day is spam PokeJoe posted:ya send more resumes. or be a bigger linkedin whore. stick that leg out alright time to ramp it up  ofc, the low number is also more about finding actual relevant pm roles that aren't construction, hr, marketing, finance, event, secretarial, or donor recruitment. 90% of my search time is sifting through these unrelated positions, where the other 10% is reading up, looking at glassdoor, tailoring my cover letter, and navigating some terribly designed job platforms. I unfortunately don't have the luxury of just plugging in all the languages and frameworks I know into an engine, nor do I have even spammy bs recruiters filling my inbox. theflyingexecutive fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Mar 9, 2023 |
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theflyingexecutive posted:I'm at 0 for 20 right now (1 rejection, the rest non responses), most not in tech though, but in direct healthcare. all that's been in the last two weeks  i'm more 28 non-responses, three maybes, and one hard no. it's been about 10 days 
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junior salespeep (sdr) cold email quotas are usually like 400-800 a month, the 20 a day mention was not a coincidence now you see what is meant when you hear that a warm lead is worth 50 cold ones bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Mar 9, 2023 |
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Mar 9, 2023 04:49
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i figure i might just have to cool it a bit actually, a lot of the things i've applied for (mostly in media, some tech, some business) say 1-2 weeks
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Out of like 70 over the course of a month I've had 2 interviews, not bad but could be better. I just need to get out of this mess that is my current role and screen potential jobs better as an interviewee.
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Beeftweeter posted:i figure i might just have to cool it a bit actually, a lot of the things i've applied for (mostly in media, some tech, some business) say 1-2 weeks I am in the same boat man, it sucks so bad.
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AnimeIsTrash posted:I am in the same boat man, it sucks so bad. it really does, it's ridiculously demoralizing i've also noticed that remote positions are kind of a rarity now, probably 85% of the listings i've seen were pretty old and the newer ones don't pay as well as ones that are hybrid or fully in-office it's some serious bullshit
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PokeJoe posted:if you want some skin crawling advice take a useless PM bait cert class (i.e. SAFe) and use it to network Our org is whole hog into SAFe and boy howdy what a way to waste everyones time and money Everyone hates it too but were beholden to it because like 3 PMO people cant come up with stats to do their job effectively without forcing 300 people to go through the rituals Mr. Crow fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Mar 9, 2023 |
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Mar 9, 2023 19:25
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Beeftweeter posted:it really does, it's ridiculously demoralizing I feel like businesses successfully salary arbitraged all the remote jobs offshore or to the middle of the country and just have recruiters going after people in Ohio or wherev
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Mar 9, 2023 19:35
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theflyingexecutive posted:I feel like businesses successfully salary arbitraged all the remote jobs offshore or to the middle of the country and just have recruiters going after people in Ohio or wherev i literally did just now get screened for a remote job in cleveland turns out it was actually hybrid so i noped out
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Mar 9, 2023 19:38
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Beeftweeter posted:i literally did just now get screened for a remote job in cleveland you can commute between cleveland and nyc i've know people whove done it. usually you go the other way tho
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Mar 9, 2023 19:42
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Beeftweeter posted:i literally did just now get screened for a remote job in cleveland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBaCG-HcEBU&t=22s
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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:you can commute between cleveland and nyc lol there's no way i'm commuting to ohio three times a week if it were new jersey or something, or maybe even connecticut or pennsylvania: fine. not ohio
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Mar 9, 2023 19:52
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thats a long commute but honestly not as long as I thought it was. Not much worse than communting between LA & SF.
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Mar 9, 2023 19:53
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i mean, if i were younger or didn't have a hosed up back i probably would have said yes they were offering basically the same salary as a local position though, it's not worth it imo
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Mar 9, 2023 19:55
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rotor posted:thats a long commute but honestly not as long as I thought it was. Not much worse than communting between LA & SF. could easily tack on an extra two hours from just getting out of NYC/nj traffic or snowstorms on i80
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Mar 9, 2023 19:57
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theflyingexecutive posted:could easily tack on an extra two hours from just getting out of NYC/nj traffic or snowstorms on i80 i'm just lookin at distance, i assume traffic is equivalent 330 vs 430 I think? i'm just surprised, i thought itd be farther.
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Mar 9, 2023 19:59
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theflyingexecutive posted:could easily tack on an extra two hours from just getting out of NYC/nj traffic or snowstorms on i80 lol that's true too, even commuting to jersey city from here takes an hour on a good day
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rotor posted:i'm just lookin at distance, i assume traffic is equivalent i mean, i don't have a car even, i'd have to either buy one or fly. trains actually take less time most of the time jersey city is about an hour by car during rush hour and it's 3.7 mi, the PATH train cuts that in half
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Man i did a hour commute for three or six months before deciding never again, what a waste of your life. I won't take a job i cant reasonably get a 15 minute commute or less or be fully remote. Lifes to short to sit in traffic
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Beeftweeter posted:lol there's no way i'm commuting to ohio three times a week ah but what if there was a train for example say (checks Amtrak) you get up in Cleveland for a 5:50am train that gets into nyc at 6:42 pm … that can’t be right ok let’s say you take the capitol limited to dc and catch an accela. you leave Cleveland at 1:54 am, arrive in dc at 1:05 pm then pick up the 1:50 pm accela to arrive in nyc at 4:38pm … never mind
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Mar 9, 2023 20:11
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Amtrak is fantastic between NYC and DC, OK between Boston and NYC, and the scenic route everywhere else.
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Chicago-Milwaukee works too
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