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skull mask mcgee posted:i tried to be truthful on an app that was like “what is the highest salary you want?” and put NaN but that pesky validation got in the way well yeah, try qNaN next time
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hobbesmaster posted:well yeah, try qNaN next time 1'; DROP TABLE applicants --
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Gazpacho posted:seems dubious when 3PRs won't even begin to represent you without a number, and you can't just refuse to give one because they are idiot robotz 3rd party recruiters will lie to both ends, knowing full well that the numbers will only meet in the middle after the interview, and then they can blame it on mis-communication
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skull mask mcgee posted:i tried to be truthful on an app that was like “what is the highest salary you want?” and put NaN but that pesky validation got in the way i'm not going to take a job that requires me to fill out a form on the internet to apply
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lol so i sent an email to nudge them and got a response which was "sorry, busy week here, when can you come in for a face to face interview?" negatives: makes them sound disorganized. positives: at least i wasn't rejected outright? and now i have an anchoring point for negotiations if the in-person goes well
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most companys hr departments and processes are a complete shitshow. theres no figuring them, no reading the tea leaves. i see at least three possibilities for what happened. 1 they have another candidate theyre higher on than you and are stringing you along until he either accepts or rejects them 2 some key stakeholder went on vacation or is otherwise incommunicado and they cant move forward without him 3 theyre just that big of a disorganized mess inside dont try to figure it out. just keep applying and interviewing right up until the moment they hand you your access badge
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True story, my boss who I interned under knew more about my job offer than the guy who "recruited" me. They literally couldn't tell me which department I was going to be working for, even though my boss told me I was re-joining my old team.
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chmods please posted:lol so i sent an email to nudge them and got a response which was "sorry, busy week here, when can you come in for a face to face interview?" that's fuckin impossible, but it worked out good on you
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FMguru posted:most companys hr departments and processes are a complete shitshow. theres no figuring them, no reading the tea leaves. i see at least three possibilities for what happened. all three can be true
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The guy I interviewed today did mediocre. Maybe tomorrow will go better. He also didn't wash his hands after using the restroom according to a co-worker who saw him in the bathroom.
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mediocre is bad. not washing hands is bad. don't hire Bs.
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i give my salary expectations up front now for new job opportunities. i got tired of investing 20ish hours in skype calls and email chains only to get offered 60% of what i make now. if employers balk at my number i don't want to work for them anyways
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Bloody posted:when theres a literal web form with validation that demands to not be blank i put $1 8008135
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Jun 27, 2018 04:04
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I once got, "please enter a realistic number" after putting in $1.
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I usually take my current salary (which is grossly inflated from living in tax-country scandinavia) and add 50%. So far no complaints from recruiters, so I'm wondering if I should put even larger numbers.
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huhu posted:I once got, "please enter a realistic number" after putting in $1.
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Boiled Water posted:I usually take my current salary (which is grossly inflated from living in tax-country scandinavia) and add 50%. So far no complaints from recruiters, so I'm wondering if I should put even larger numbers. Really? I was under the impression that it was really easy to hit the programmer salary roof here. Surely the salaries are not grossly inflated compared to American (or German/Dutch/Irish) salaries, even before tax, or am I wrong?
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I've seen a place make you pick a salary range from a dropdown and not let you proceed without it. What do you do in that case?
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cheque_some posted:I've seen a place make you pick a salary range from a dropdown and not let you proceed without it. What do you do in that case?
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lol if you assume that organizations behave coherently
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Maximum Leader posted:Really? I was under the impression that it was really easy to hit the programmer salary roof here. Surely the salaries are not grossly inflated compared to American (or German/Dutch/Irish) salaries, even before tax, or am I wrong? Higher than Irish / UK easily, but their companies actively try to gently caress developers.
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huhu posted:I once got, "please enter a realistic number" after putting in $1. 1.000000
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when i started looking around for a new job and going to interviews a few weeks ago i felt really confident in myself as a programmer, that i was really starting to feel like i could rely on myself to tackle almost any problem now i feel like poo poo and like im at the edge of a nervous breakdown and i have absolutely no confidence i will get any decent job at all, i'll be stuck writing garbage tier broken webapps in javascript for eternity
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TheFluff posted:when i started looking around for a new job and going to interviews a few weeks ago i felt really confident in myself as a programmer, that i was really starting to feel like i could rely on myself to tackle almost any problem i went through this process too. felt pretty good, interviewed a few places but nothing panned out, felt like poo poo, pushed through, now I've passed all the technical interviews for my #1 choice (after being rejected by them a couple months ago without even an interview) keep going friend, you will find a good job. interviewing is a soul-crushing experience, it utterly blows e: i got lazy and stopped updating my trello board but i have been rejected from ~6 places post-interview and applied to 28 more and either never got a reply or rejected based on resume alone. Arcsech fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Jun 27, 2018 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i'm not going to take a job that requires me to fill out a form on the internet to apply that’s cool i’m still finishing my undergrad so that’s what 99% of openings available to me want even with a referral from an employee they still make me fill out the form
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skull mask mcgee posted:that’s cool i’m still finishing my undergrad so that’s what 99% of openings available to me want your first job out of college is the shittiest job hunt you will ever have in your life, hopefully
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TheFluff posted:i have an excellent response rate on my resume but i keep loving up interviews in various ways Interviewing is a skill that must be practiced regularly or else you'll make silly mistakes like this when you actually do want another job. Anyway even if you're good at interviewing, half the time you'll be dead on arrival because of another candidate who is more qualified from the get go. Job hunting is dogshit.
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the hardest part of interviewing is finding interesting companies to apply to.
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so i got an offer from a company/team that seemed pretty good, and it's somewhat significantly more than what i expected. obviously, this is a good problem to have, but i'm not really sure how to go about negotiating here, since the number i had in mind to negotiate UP to was a good deal smaller. anyone else gotten positively surprised by an offer? how did you handle it?
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you're gonna hate your job, just apply to the ones with the best glassdoor reviews because at least those shitholes won't work you to death on top of being something you hate
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The Leck posted:so i got an offer from a company/team that seemed pretty good, and it's somewhat significantly more than what i expected. obviously, this is a good problem to have, but i'm not really sure how to go about negotiating here, since the number i had in mind to negotiate UP to was a good deal smaller. anyone else gotten positively surprised by an offer? how did you handle it? if you didn't tell them your expectations, then it is time to take their offer, crank it up 15-20%, and ask for that
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Corla Plankun posted:you're gonna hate your job, just apply to the ones with the best glassdoor reviews because at least those shitholes won't work you to death on top of being something you hate lol if you think they're not just astroturfing
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Bloody posted:lol if you think they're not just astroturfing
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FMguru posted:my companys breakrooms have posters in them straight-up asking people to go to glassdoor and post about what a fun exciting wonderful place this is to work still better than ordering hr drones to make poo poo up
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:still better than ordering hr drones to make poo poo up this is why you shouldn't trust glassdoor reviews. i know places that i know for a fact are 100% low-paid bureaucratic shitholes yet somehow pull a 4.x+ rating on glassdoor. imo any medium+ sized company that is over 4 should be immediately suspect.
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