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dorium
Nov 5, 2009

If it gets in your eyes
Just look into mine
Just look into dreams
and you'll be alright
I'll be alright






Well that Don't trailer deserved to be a full movie more than Planet Terror did.

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King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

The video arcade made me what I am today!



DeimosRising posted:

Itís already 2 hours how long did you want it

I guess I meant more fleshed out and better edited, like edit down the boring parts and make it more cohesive and add some extra scenes. I get why it's the way it is, it's meant to be two movies spliced together grindhouse style, but it could've been a great automobile-based slasher car chase movie with a little more retooling.

Or just completely redo it, probably would be the better option.

e: Also yeah, I wish Don't were a full movie and Machete... wasn't. Robert Rodriguez really poo poo the bed with Machete, what a disappointment. Anyway if we keep this discussion up y'all are going to make me watch my Grindhouse blu ray and I still have like 14 discs worth of Al Adamson to get through.

King Vidiot fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Jul 21, 2020

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.






Grimey Drawer

I feel like all the boring stuff is necessary buildup to the chase scene and "I'm okay!"

Like, we spend a lot of time with this first group of girls, you think they're setting up some kind of stalk-and-kill slasher variant, and then they're all killed very quickly. Very Psycho. SO now we get this second group, and we start spending a lot of time with them, and we know something's bad gonna happen, and there's that much more suspense because we know this film doesn't care about the normal pacing. When ZoŽ's on the hood it's both suspenseful on its own as an action sequence, and suspenseful because we know this film will kill characters we have grown to care about.

And then she pops up. And everything changes. And I think you need the buildup to have that much of a payoff.

Plus this actually lets them do something neat- all the dialogue in the second half includes a bit where they're telling a story of ZoŽ falling into a ditch and just being fine, and if they'd had that happen on-screen, whether it's a flashback or whatever, it'd be obvious foreshadowing. If it had been a monologue sort of on its own that would also be kind of a giveaway. But since it's just a part of the patter, we don't see that it's significant, until the thing happens.


Basically Death Proof is QT doing some tricky stuff to manipulate the audience and I like that. Also, just, y'know, ZoŽ Bell.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

EVERY FAIRY TALE NEEDS ITS HERO.



What you're describing is a good magic trick, not a good movie.

Origami Dali
Jan 7, 2005

Get ready to fuck!
You fucker's fucker!
You fucker!


Death Proof had no need for that extended cut. And it definitely had no need for the extended cut to be the only standalone version you can buy.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.






Grimey Drawer

feedmyleg posted:

What you're describing is a good magic trick, not a good movie.

There's a difference?

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004



Origami Dali posted:

Death Proof had no need for that extended cut. And it definitely had no need for the extended cut to be the only standalone version you can buy.

It was cool seeing the standalone extended cut of Death Proof on 35mm at the New Beverly Cinema. I didn't even realize it was the extended version until the "Scene Missing" scene actually popped up in the cut.

Origami Dali
Jan 7, 2005

Get ready to fuck!
You fucker's fucker!
You fucker!


One thing I never understood about that movie were the scenes with the radio dj girl texting w her lovely boyfriend/date multiple times. It became the focus of the scene whenever it happened and I thought it was going to pay off with him being the killer or a victim, but unless I missed something, it didn't turn into anything and had no reason to be there.

Bodhidharma
Jul 2, 2011

"virgin no more! virgin no more!" i continue to insist as i slowly shrink and transform into a corn cob

ruddiger posted:

It was cool seeing the standalone extended cut of Death Proof on 35mm at the New Beverly Cinema. I didn't even realize it was the extended version until the "Scene Missing" scene actually popped up in the cut.

Ahhh, I miss going to the New Beverly Cinema. That's a great venue.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013



Origami Dali posted:

One thing I never understood about that movie were the scenes with the radio dj girl texting w her lovely boyfriend/date multiple times. It became the focus of the scene whenever it happened and I thought it was going to pay off with him being the killer or a victim, but unless I missed something, it didn't turn into anything and had no reason to be there.

Made you think it was going to matter though didnit it?

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



feedmyleg posted:

There's a cool concept for a movie inside of Death Proof but Tarantino didn't crack it in execution.

I disagree - he successfully made an authentic Grindhouse movie, itís just that traditionally Grindhouse movies arenít very good.

My favorite Tarantino flick is probably the Hateful Eight, but Iím also a huge fan of Carpenterís ĎThe Thingí.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


From the latest Vinegar Syndrome newsletter:

VinSyn posted:

We are steadily working on our next giallo collection, which is slated for September. This time around, the cuts won't be nearly as deep, but we still think you'll enjoy this assortment of early 70s sleaze-fests.

And yes...the slashers are coming, starting in September and going through November! All are fresh to Blu and some are even fresh to disc! Needless to say, they're all gonna look better than your tired old VHS (or decades old DVD) editions. Plus, look forward to more gialli, Euro horror, and our first foray into Mexican horror all in store for the Fall.

So how bout this cliffhangerÖare you ready for VSU?

Biff Rockgroin
Jun 17, 2005

Go to commercial!



They said it's not another streaming service, so I'm out of ideas.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


Biff Rockgroin posted:

They said it's not another streaming service, so I'm out of ideas.

I'm going with Vinegar Syndrome (Combined) Universe,

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment



Grimey Drawer

My guess is Vinegar Syndrome University, and it either goes into the history of films that they have on their label, or a breakdown of filmmaking techniques with their films as examples.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

EVERY FAIRY TALE NEEDS ITS HERO.



I'd absolutely love it if Vinegar Syndrome University was insight into their restoration processes.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


feedmyleg posted:

I'd absolutely love it if Vinegar Syndrome University was insight into their restoration processes.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment



Grimey Drawer

feedmyleg posted:

I'd absolutely love it if Vinegar Syndrome University was insight into their restoration processes.

Ooh, this is a cool idea.

Would you like to watch nine minutes of Shout Factory's process restoring Sleepaway Camp from film negatives to 2k?

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

EVERY FAIRY TALE NEEDS ITS HERO.



Why, yes. Yes I would.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Nope



VinSyn Unlimited. $800 a year for all releases

VvV
I wouldn't mind their restoration process being included either

FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Jul 22, 2020

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

EVERY FAIRY TALE NEEDS ITS HERO.



That's probably much more likely. Or a digital locker that's isn't technically a streaming service.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment



Grimey Drawer

feedmyleg posted:

Why, yes. Yes I would.

This exchange inspired me to make a thread about film restoration, cuz why the gently caress not.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

EVERY FAIRY TALE NEEDS ITS HERO.



I must be so loving boring because I'd watch hours and hours of stuff like that Sleepaway Camp video. I want to see someone go through and do spot cleanup and remove hairs and fix discoloration in detail.

Then again my favorite YouTube show is a conservator painstakingly restoring oil paintings so I guess I'm boring either way.

Anyway, hopping on that thread, great idea!

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003


feedmyleg posted:

I must be so loving boring because I'd watch hours and hours of stuff like that Sleepaway Camp video. I want to see someone go through and do spot cleanup and remove hairs and fix discoloration in detail.

Then again my favorite YouTube show is a conservator painstakingly restoring oil paintings so I guess I'm boring either way.

Anyway, hopping on that thread, great idea!

poo poo, lately I watch a lot of tabletop terrain and diorama building. Probably not quite as "dull" as what you watch, but I doubt watching someone make and place a ton of tiny foam bricks is particularly high on the excitement scale.

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Two as


Vinegar Syndrome Uncensored

feedmyleg posted:

Then again my favorite YouTube show is a conservator painstakingly restoring oil paintings so I guess I'm boring either way.

Anyway, hopping on that thread, great idea!

Another Baumgartner Restorations head, I see

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

EVERY FAIRY TALE NEEDS ITS HERO.



I Before E posted:

Vinegar Syndrome Uncensored

Does it count as a streaming service if they're making a retro-themed PornHub?

I Before E posted:

Another Baumgartner Restorations head, I see

Bob Ross for a new generation.

Iron Crowned posted:

poo poo, lately I watch a lot of tabletop terrain and diorama building. Probably not quite as "dull" as what you watch, but I doubt watching someone make and place a ton of tiny foam bricks is particularly high on the excitement scale.

I think the forums have officially reached middle age.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013



Xenomrph posted:

I disagree - he successfully made an authentic Grindhouse movie, itís just that traditionally Grindhouse movies arenít very good.

My favorite Tarantino flick is probably the Hateful Eight, but Iím also a huge fan of Carpenterís ĎThe Thingí.

This ones at the very bottom for me lol. I really do not like it at all.

ultraviolence123
Jul 3, 2002



Honestly, and this might just be me, but watching this is million times more interesting than the basic Q&A interview with a bored movie star. I wish this type of extra was on more discs.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005







feedmyleg posted:

I must be so loving boring because I'd watch hours and hours of stuff like that Sleepaway Camp video. I want to see someone go through and do spot cleanup and remove hairs and fix discoloration in detail.

Then again my favorite YouTube show is a conservator painstakingly restoring oil paintings so I guess I'm boring either way.

Anyway, hopping on that thread, great idea!

Hey, I'm the guy who found out what paleontology really entails and still wanted to sign up. (It didn't work out, but for reasons unrelated to spending hours methodically uncovering a fossil with a dental pick and a silk brush while writing my graduate thesis about millimeter-level differences in frill patterns between two ambiguously-differentiated subspecies of Chasmosaurus.)

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

EVERY FAIRY TALE NEEDS ITS HERO.



I hope the reason it didn't work out is because an eccentric billionaire invited you to his private island and you were almost killed by dinosaurs and had to swear off the profession because of the trauma.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005







I'm not saying that's not why.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!



Fun Shoe

Assuming you like the movie(not everyone does), the new Spartacus UHD looks fantastic. It's been a great month or so for historical epics on UHD.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment



Grimey Drawer

Grabbed a few more from the Criterion sale on BN.com.

Eraserhead, Blue Velvet, Dazed & Confused, Repo Man, and All About My Mother. All favorites that I've surprisingly never owned before, besides a barebones Dazed & Confused DVD.

dorium
Nov 5, 2009

If it gets in your eyes
Just look into mine
Just look into dreams
and you'll be alright
I'll be alright






this might've been the most expensive Criterion sale I've taken apart of. Purchased nine flicks so far and may go back for one last round before the sale is up.

Mahasamatman
Nov 8, 2006

Flame on the trail headed for the powder keg


I bought the Godzilla set and this poo poo loving rips, dudes. Laughing my rear end off watching king kong do a flip and, completely untouched by Godzilla, hitting his head on a giant rock. And this is supposed to be the bad one!

Cemetry Gator
Apr 3, 2007

Do you find something comical about my appearance when I'm driving my automobile?


I think the Japanese King Kong vs. Godzilla is actually a pretty good film, especially the Japanese version. The American version is pretty bad since it renders the story nonsensical, and the news broadcast motif just doesn't work.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013



The American version sucks. I still gotta watch the Japanese version.
The fight scene was dope tho

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!



Fun Shoe

I have to agree about King Kong vs. Godzilla. I'd heard it was bad but I watched it this weekend and loved it. I mean yea it's goofy as hell in spots but not in a way that I thought was out of line for a kaiju film.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008



Basebf555 posted:

Assuming you like the movie(not everyone does), the new Spartacus UHD looks fantastic. It's been a great month or so for historical epics on UHD.

It's an oddity in Kubrick's filmography, but visually you can absolutely see it's a film he directed. Just overall incredible lighting, blocking, and camera work. I've warmed up to it a lot since it really is a fantastic movie, but just expect something more like Ben-Hur instead of Barry Lyndon.

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The Cameo
Jan 20, 2005



I skipped over the quote box there and for a second I lived in a magical land where Stanley Kubrick directed King Kong vs Godzilla.

edit: and that the comparison point for it was Barry Lyndon and Ben-Hur. King Kong, a polite gentle giant ape of no real accord...

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