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Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

Hi, Everybody!


The plot's actually not that hard to tweak into something fixable; As it stands, with Poe knowing what Hondo's plan is in advance, they just have to sit tight and they'll get out alive. Buuut there's no reason they can't still go with Poe's plan to try and get the Cruiser jumping to safety. Minimal risk, few people and resources potentially lost, and they might actually save the one capital-scale ship they have left. It's better than sitting on Salt-Hoth with barely any resources left, so give it a shot .


Lightning Knight posted:

Given the circumstances they're in this isn't an unreasonable decision, imo. They unironically could and should've done it much sooner. They had other ships to evacuate people to before the big dumb chase sequence and they could've safely jumped away.

Okay, so that's one Imperial capital ship destroyed.

What about the day after? A month from then? Because a lack of a capital ship hurts for a lot longer than killing one among thousands will benefit.

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Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Neddy Seagoon posted:

The plot's actually not that hard to tweak into something fixable; As it stands, with Poe knowing what Hondo's plan is in advance, they just have to sit tight and they'll get out alive. Buuut there's no reason they can't still go with Poe's plan to try and get the Cruiser jumping to safety. Minimal risk, few people and resources potentially lost, and they might actually save the one capital-scale ship they have left. It's better than sitting on Salt-Hoth with barely any resources left, so give it a shot .


Okay, so that's one Imperial capital ship destroyed.

What about the day after? A month from then? Because a lack of a capital ship hurts for a lot longer than killing one among thousands will benefit.

I mean there's still other things wrong with it, like how the timeline is very slippery. Finn spends like, what, a single night on the casino planet? Plus the next morning? Rey is on the planet with Luke for quite a bit longer than that, and yet the chase scene doesn't seem to last longer than a day or two. Are we suddenly trying to add time dilation to explain that?

I think my main beef with TLJ is that I really enjoyed the parts with Rey on the ocean world, the stuff with Finn on the casino planet was interesting but felt like extended filler, the throne room/post FTL scenes on the big ship were cool, and the ending was fine. But the chase scene and opening bomber sequence just totally fell flat for me and really drags the first two-thirds of the movie down.

I mean, they're still in that same scenario the way the current plot is, they just also have no smaller ships now. What difference does it make?

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013



I mean, the whole galaxy knows what Luke did to stand up to the First Order. A new generation of rebels will come up and help them take down the First Order in the next movie, I'd imagine.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

CelticPredator posted:

I mean, the whole galaxy knows what Luke did to stand up to the First Order. A new generation of rebels will come up and help them take down the First Order in the next movie, I'd imagine.

This is true but "scrappy kids want to join the resistance" doesn't replace spaceships.

Anyway my bad, this is a dumb derail, I'll stop now.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013



It's the middle of the night, tomorrow there will be more news about CA and all it's horrors, and this will all be pretty much buried.

But I think it does mean more space ships. And it wasn't just those kids who know. The idea was to show how far this story spread. Which means a lot of people know.

Playstation 4
Apr 25, 2014


Unlockable Ben

CelticPredator posted:

It's the middle of the night, tomorrow there will be more news about CA and all it's horrors, and this will all be pretty much buried.

But I think it does mean more space ships. And it wasn't just those kids who know. The idea was to show how far this story spread. Which means a lot of people know.

They also had contacts they tried to call up who gave up and didn't answer. Presumably they will also be remoralized, and given what they were being called in for, probably have arms, ships and manpower.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012


Neddy Seagoon posted:

Okay, so that's one Imperial capital ship destroyed.

What about the day after? A month from then? Because a lack of a capital ship hurts for a lot longer than killing one among thousands will benefit.

Exactly, this was the point of the first scene of the film. Poe destroyed one capital ship at the cost of all their bombers, accomplishing nothing, and this was clearly shown and explained to be a mistake.

Ash Crimson
Apr 4, 2010


Welp, I never liked jew wario anyway. I hope the ca train wreck continues, destroying everything it ever stood for.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

D U S T M A N


Kim Justice posted:

Dude, this is really loving horrible for some people. Kindly let them come down for a space and talk about other things in the thread if they need to.

no trust me, I completely understand and respect that.

what i do not understand and respect is the desire to replace that with rehashing the exact same loving arguments about the last jedi over and over again instead of talking about literally anything else

Playstation 4
Apr 25, 2014


Unlockable Ben

Ash Crimson posted:

Welp, I never liked jew wario anyway. I hope the ca train wreck continues, destroying everything it ever stood for.

Edgey post bro.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 17, 2013





Ash Crimson posted:

Welp, I never liked jew wario anyway. I hope the ca train wreck continues, destroying everything it ever stood for.
I exposure to the trad games community makes you kinda numb to this, but no need to be a dick about it.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

If you LP what I LP
And if you work retail like I work retail
You would also scream like I scream


nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

low vis





Ladies and gentlemen... Whether you like it or not!

Also be sure to call the thread “Brad Jones Made Me Do It”

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

If you LP what I LP
And if you work retail like I work retail
You would also scream like I scream


nine-gear crow posted:

Ladies and gentlemen... Whether you like it or not!

Also be sure to call the thread “Brad Jones Made Me Do It”

Lupa can you ask Brad if he'll co commentate with me

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

low vis




Leal posted:

Lupa can you ask Brad if he'll co commentate with me

God, if you get Brad on for even one video I will re-sub to him in a femtosecond.

Antifa Turkeesian
Aug 20, 2006



Is vidcon going to be weirder this year?

FreezingInferno
Jul 15, 2010

THERE.
WILL.
BE.
NO.
BATTLE.
HERE!



Godspeed. I don't know what wild straight-up anime poo poo this one has, but if it's anything like the other games you will have more than a few moments of .

Playstation 4
Apr 25, 2014


Unlockable Ben

Holy poo poo, we gonna get two good things with no downsides out of this mess. (The other being the Guru Larry WWCD tweet and fanart)

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006



I can't believe I'm being that panel from the Kelly comics with the guy going "Ha ha ha... Yes!!!" Over Guru Larry tweets.

Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


Well I was more hoping the discussion would be about Auralnauts in particular but I guess Last Jedi is a good distraction detail as well. Also I'm phone posting but there is a video of Rich Evans predicting Luke's entire motivation in TLJ that came out in November 2015 and he's pretty much dead on the money.

Moviebob also put up a video the other day about how pointless the Roseanne reboot is when shows like Bob's Burgers or King of the Hill already exist to show what life is like for average Americans who might have voted for Trump, since apparently Roseanne's reboot is specifically about her voting for Trump and her family trying to deal with it.

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014


Can people put spoilers over the Star Wars talk. Because I haven't seen the movie and it would be way easier to know what I can just scroll past it.

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010




Oh poo poo, it's a new Best Of The Worst, but now with a NEW GIMMICK!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1je3wob5JA

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

I'm the babyliberal, gotta love me!


I don't know if I'll ever bother watching The Last Jedi. The Force Awakens felt too much like it was just the original Star Wars, but with better CGI, and I just don't actually like the Star Wars world enough to care about more stories there.

On the other hand, Solo: A Star Wars Story has Donald Glover as Lando Calrissian, so I might watch it just for that.

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

I think this is a pretty good draft class overall. It's really shaping up that way because of the water types.


you fools are missing the real problem with The Last Jedi

There is no reason why it should matter if the capital ship was running out of fuel because in the vacuum of space there is no friction to slow inertia. The chase should have gone on forever.

Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


Should have done it Expanse style where their need to outrun the enemy is dictated by how fast they can accelerate before running out of fuel, so the chase starts going faster and faster and faster until it's like the scene in Star Trek Into Darkness where they're trading shots while flying at Warp speed. Only good part of that movie IMO.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006



Absurd Alhazred posted:

I don't know if I'll ever bother watching The Last Jedi. The Force Awakens felt too much like it was just the original Star Wars, but with better CGI, and I just don't actually like the Star Wars world enough to care about more stories there.
I'd recommend giving it a shot. There are three major plotlines. One is a waste of time. One is deliberately frustrating which makes it divisive. One involves Luke and it is loving tight because it involves taking a gigantic dump on the dogma of Star Wars in order for something new to grow.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

I'm the babyliberal, gotta love me!


Relativity means that the only thing that matters is how they accelerate relative to each other. Running out of fuel means you can't accelerate anymore. It's not going to lead you to "warp speed" or whatever. On the other hand, you're going to have to use up a lot of fuel to accelerate in the opposite direction to go back home, unless you're fortunate enough to run into a star system in such a way as to do some gravity assists, and maybe some atmospheric deceleration, if you know what you're doing.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015

BORN TO DIE
WORLD IS A FUCK
Kill Em All 1989
I am trash man
410,757,864,530 DEAD COPS





I dunno how I feel about purple-haired captain. Like, I didn't dislike her or anything but I also didn't really find any reason to be attached to her. It feels like a weird character to give the most visually-impressive heroic sacrifice in the series. It's like they came up with the lightspeed scene first and then nobody could agree on who should be driving the ship

For the record though, the scenes between Rey and Kylo are some of the best material to come out of Star Wars

Mel Mudkiper posted:

you fools are missing the real problem with The Last Jedi

There is no reason why it should matter if the capital ship was running out of fuel because in the vacuum of space there is no friction to slow inertia. The chase should have gone on forever.

gently caress.

Augus fucked around with this message at 13:33 on Apr 13, 2018

Playstation 4
Apr 25, 2014


Unlockable Ben

Augus posted:

I dunno how I feel about purple-haired captain. Like, I didn't dislike her or anything but I also didn't really find any reason to be attached to her. It feels like a weird character to give the most visually-impressive heroic sacrifice in the series. It's like they came up with the lightspeed scene first and then nobody could agree on who should be driving the ship

Given they knew about the obvious since December 2016, it should kind have been Leia.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013



You can’t apply real science to Star Wars, come on now.

Dragonatrix
Aug 16, 2009

You have offended STRINGIE! You must be punished!


Sarcopenia posted:

Can people put spoilers over the Star Wars talk. Because I haven't seen the movie and it would be way easier to know what I can just scroll past it.

What'd be nicer is if it was in a loving Star Wars thread, where it belongs, instead of still going on in here for no goddamn reason.

If only someone could post some relevant content to make it sto-- oh wait that just happened and got ignored:

ACES CURE PLANES posted:

Oh poo poo, it's a new Best Of The Worst, but now with a NEW GIMMICK!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1je3wob5JA

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

I think this is a pretty good draft class overall. It's really shaping up that way because of the water types.


CelticPredator posted:

You can’t apply real science to Star Wars, come on now.

Tell that to the dudes still screaming screaming about space leia

Libluini
May 18, 2012

Did I predict the future?


Grimey Drawer

Mel Mudkiper posted:

you fools are missing the real problem with The Last Jedi

There is no reason why it should matter if the capital ship was running out of fuel because in the vacuum of space there is no friction to slow inertia. The chase should have gone on forever.

There never should have been a chase or a conflict at all. FTL isn't real so no-one in Star Wars ever left their homeworld.

The Bee
Nov 25, 2012

Making his way to the ring . . .
from Deep in the Jungle . . .

The Big Monkey!


Playstation 4 posted:

Given they knew about the obvious since December 2016, it should kind have been Leia.

It would've been a nice cinematic parallel with Leias In Spaaaaace, too.

e X
Feb 23, 2013

cool but crude


Absurd Alhazred posted:

I don't know if I'll ever bother watching The Last Jedi. The Force Awakens felt too much like it was just the original Star Wars, but with better CGI, and I just don't actually like the Star Wars world enough to care about more stories there.

On the other hand, Solo: A Star Wars Story has Donald Glover as Lando Calrissian, so I might watch it just for that.

Honestly, don't bother. The biggest problem I have with the entire new trilogy is the utter feeling of pointlessness that permeates the entire thing. I thought Last Jedi was a huge improvement over Force Awakens, it even has the occational flashes of brilliance, but all in all, it didn't manages to shake off the shallowness that Force Awakens created by being so uninspired in its world building.

edit: Also, while it is true that we tend to talk about Star Wars a lot, I find it quite interesting how the option on Last Jedi seemed to have cooled considerably.

e X fucked around with this message at 14:29 on Apr 13, 2018

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011


Grimey Drawer

Glad to see the thread can still do it's thing given all this poo poo. It's refreshing for once. Even if it is Star Wars again. Stay frosty nerds.

lornekates
Oct 3, 2014

Web Developer for phelous.com dot com.

Been waiting for a lull in the CA traumadrama to post.

So a certain admin, FactsAreUseless, has decided to demod me. This was out of nowhere, and without any consultation with me, or with any other admin. The only reason I got is that I was being "too professional", and enforcing rules. The only way I can read this is that someone didn't like their probe, and complained to their admin friend. Just my feeling. (FYI: it wasn't anyone in this thread. Y'all are cool and I love you).

This, needless to say, hurts quite a bit. I've been wanting to participate more in the recent discussion, but I'm a bit heartbroken. Being perfectly honest, I don't know if I'll do any more than lurk. On the other hand, I'll sleep on that for the weekend. If I do go away, please be not-assholes to each other.

Any discussion I've had with other mods or admins seems to boil down to "no one but FAU seems to have decided this, so nothing we can do". So if you want any more information about what happened, or reinstatement, that's something you'll need to discuss with the admin of your choice.

Given that RDG basically only has 6 threads of note, and only 2 of them produce mod reports, I'm completely baffled as to how anyone can think too much time is spent on mod reports for a particular thread. It's-- literally just statistics.

Anyways, I'll try not to rant too much. Continue on the discussion.

My contribution (if it's my last): Diamanda Hagan just dropped a review of Chirpy 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6-CH750yqY If you don't know what Chripy is, Google her original review of it.

It's about a horse loving a bird. yup.

And FWIW, I just became a top-tier Patreon of hers, so sometime in the future there'll be a ep-by-ep TV series review of my choice, and a possible cameo.

Warren
Aug 9, 2009

What the-

In an attempt to not hurt my soul further, do you guys have any recommendation for old Computer styled youtubers like Kim and LGR? I watched the ZX Specturm homebrew video from Kim and have gone down a wonky little rabbit hole into PAL computers and I have a desperate need to watch more things like the two of them.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005



If y'all want to derail about a different sci-fantasy blockbuster, Now Playing watched Ready Player One:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vGirvU5990


Warren posted:

In an attempt to not hurt my soul further, do you guys have any recommendation for old Computer styled youtubers like Kim and LGR? I watched the ZX Specturm homebrew video from Kim and have gone down a wonky little rabbit hole into PAL computers and I have a desperate need to watch more things like the two of them.

I'm a big fan of the 8-bit Guy

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Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

I think this is a pretty good draft class overall. It's really shaping up that way because of the water types.


lornekates posted:

Given that RDG basically only has 6 threads of note, and only 2 of them produce mod reports, I'm completely baffled as to how anyone can think too much time is spent on mod reports for a particular thread. It's-- literally just statistics.

Anyways, I'll try not to rant too much. Continue on the discussion.

I mean all I know about you is that I made a total of 3 posts in the thread and you were already trying to bite my head off so I am not exactly surprised someone thought you took things too seriously


Warren posted:

In an attempt to not hurt my soul further, do you guys have any recommendation for old Computer styled youtubers like Kim and LGR? I watched the ZX Specturm homebrew video from Kim and have gone down a wonky little rabbit hole into PAL computers and I have a desperate need to watch more things like the two of them.

Basically UK guys do it. I think DJ Slope has a few speccy vids as well. Watching Kim vids has been fascinating because I never realized the UK had this entire parallel games culture the US didn't have at all.

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