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Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Shitposting 24/7 without regrets. my parents would be proud.


Mokinokaro posted:

It's more that the company was his personal fiefdom and he treated it like such. Just a giant dick to everyone he saw as beneath him, like they were property.

X-Men Destiny's funding was pooled into a kickstarter demo. To the point that SK didn't even pay the Unreal Engine fees for it, which got all their Unreal using games pulled from sale.

whats amusing is i have seen these games in stores even in gamestops. pretty recently too.

honestly. id love to hear matt talk about Fracture. its one of the last non star wars lucas arts games and i read somewhere the development was nightmare. what sucks is the concept/backstory of the game was sorta cool.

which reminds of the story of how the gobbler destroyed lucasarts because of his meddling. read blood sweat and pixels for that fun story.

https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Sweat-...t/dp/0062651234

Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Sep 14, 2018

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Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

D U S T M A N


Mokinokaro posted:

It's more that the company was his personal fiefdom and he treated it like such. Just a giant dick to everyone he saw as beneath him, like they were property.

X-Men Destiny's funding was pooled into a kickstarter demo. To the point that SK didn't even pay the Unreal Engine fees for it, which got all their Unreal using games pulled from sale.

it was even wilder than that, Silicon Knights tried to sue Epic for supposedly not offering them adequate support for the engine, to which Epic countersued them for stealing Unreal engine assets to use for their own engine, which Epic won.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005



DoubleCakes posted:

Nick Nocturne is arguably in the doghouse (pun not intended) but I still think he's worth talking about. I don't think he's been blacklisted yet, and he might be earning back goodwill after that big apology he did.

I've got him mentally slotted in the "okay but on probation in case he backslides" box. I think his apology demonstrated a will to at least try, which is so much better than the bulk of internet personalities who gently caress up, so it's a good start.

Hemingway To Go! posted:

Kind of wish DHMIS fit in a chat general thread somewhere. I'm not going to the DHMIS reddit and no one I know likes it, but I was pretty interested in the trailer and wanted to talk about it.

Maybe Nyx Fears could start doing videos about it. DHMIS is a huge cut above just about any other youtube series.

Personally, I'd be AOK with DHMIS talk here. It'd break up the Star Wars monotony, if nothing else!

Though my own interest in it is more on the lines of finding out about cool details I missed than the "HERE IS THE SECRET MESSAGE!" that I see everywhere. Sometimes, weird poo poo is just weird poo poo, and it isn't meant to have much coherent message beyond "That's pretty hosed up, huh?"

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012


Alaois posted:

the negative reception of Too Human may have actually driven Dennis Dyack insane, which is an impressive feat tbh

I loved Legacy of Kain and Soul Reaver so freaking much back in the daty, and they still hold a place in my heart for those sweet undead scenery-chewers (and the sorely-missed tony Jay). I do believe those games, along with Metal Gear solid and a couple of others, helped bring voice acting in games out of the morass it was wallowing in.

It's sad that a series that was so ambitious and had more to try imploded because of studio crap. But not surprising.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 26 hours!


Alaois posted:

it was even wilder than that, Silicon Knights tried to sue Epic for supposedly not offering them adequate support for the engine, to which Epic countersued them for stealing Unreal engine assets to use for their own engine, which Epic won.

that was not the x-men game, it was too human. and silicon knights lost so hard that they could no longer legally sell the game and all copies on store shelves were ordered to be recalled and destroyed lmao.

Bonaventure
Jun 23, 2005



Sephyr posted:

I loved Legacy of Kain and Soul Reaver so freaking much back in the daty, and they still hold a place in my heart for those sweet undead scenery-chewers (and the sorely-missed tony Jay). I do believe those games, along with Metal Gear solid and a couple of others, helped bring voice acting in games out of the morass it was wallowing in.

It's sad that a series that was so ambitious and had more to try imploded because of studio crap. But not surprising.

Silicon Knights only made Blood Omen 1.
Crystal Dynamics made Soul Reaver.

Presumably, Crystal Dynamics were also the ones who made Blood Omen 1 playable*, which is why they won the rights to make future games in the series from Silicon Knights in a big embarrassing legal battle after Blood Omen 1's release.

rudecyrus
Nov 6, 2009

fuck you trolls



Bryan and Kyle look at Dracula 3000, possibly the worst vampire film ever. It looks like it had a budget of $300, and I love that the tagline is "In space there is no daylight."

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007



Is Dracula 3000 better or worse than Dracula 2000, is the real question.

Bonaventure
Jun 23, 2005



Define "better."
They're both bad, but I think 3000 is way more entertaining.

The front page (like, as in, somethingawful.com) review of Dracula 3000 from ages ago was really good iirc.

Dracula 2000 is bad in the same way that most Wes Craven projects are bad.
Dracula 3000 is bad in the sense that Dracula wears a big dumb Halloween costume on a spaceship and Coolio gets turned into a vampire who loves talking about how much he masturbates.

Dragonatrix
Aug 16, 2009

You have offended STRINGIE! You must be punished!


Judging from the review, seems that Coolio took his role about as seriously as it deserved and was by all accounts the highlight of the thing.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

D U S T M A N


DEEP STATE PLOT posted:

that was not the x-men game, it was too human. and silicon knights lost so hard that they could no longer legally sell the game and all copies on store shelves were ordered to be recalled and destroyed lmao.

it was both games because they made X-Men Destiny with the jacked assets engine

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005



rudecyrus posted:

Bryan and Kyle look at Dracula 3000, possibly the worst vampire film ever. It looks like it had a budget of $300, and I love that the tagline is "In space there is no daylight."

I got all excited and then discovered that you didn't mean Kyle Kallgren

Still, I'll give this one a watch later. I'm always interested in stupid vampire movies.

Antifa Turkeesian
Aug 20, 2006




The posters are the most baffling part, unless the work study program is some kind of scam where they need to make up work for the students to do, like designing, printing, and hanging up posters that are only useful for about three hours before replacing them with posters that would never be useful.

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway


Puppy Time posted:

Personally, I'd be AOK with DHMIS talk here. It'd break up the Star Wars monotony, if nothing else!

Though my own interest in it is more on the lines of finding out about cool details I missed than the "HERE IS THE SECRET MESSAGE!" that I see everywhere. Sometimes, weird poo poo is just weird poo poo, and it isn't meant to have much coherent message beyond "That's pretty hosed up, huh?"

I think DHMIS manages to strike a good balance between a sharable video with a coherent joke in them and having stuff below the surface, most of which enhances the videos and makes things more meaningful and are able to be picked up if you're thinking about it. Like it's hard to read when you're casually watching that Yellow gets drugged in the Healthy episode or that the Computer episode shows computers reading your data and making ads, but they're like right there.

I hope they can keep that balance, because a lot of the stuff in the trailer looked pretty fantastical with the talking keyblade, the robots, the animated segments, and the technology. Might be doing something very different this time around, especially considering that with how the series ended, but I hope the videos are still sharable.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

I'm the babyliberal, gotta love me!


Finally got around to watching HBomb's speedrunning video, 'twas good.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005



Hemingway To Go! posted:

I think DHMIS manages to strike a good balance between a sharable video with a coherent joke in them and having stuff below the surface, most of which enhances the videos and makes things more meaningful and are able to be picked up if you're thinking about it. Like it's hard to read when you're casually watching that Yellow gets drugged in the Healthy episode or that the Computer episode shows computers reading your data and making ads, but they're like right there.

I hope they can keep that balance, because a lot of the stuff in the trailer looked pretty fantastical with the talking keyblade, the robots, the animated segments, and the technology. Might be doing something very different this time around, especially considering that with how the series ended, but I hope the videos are still sharable.

Yeah, I feel like the videos are less meant to be a coherent mystery box story than a whole that's thematically coherent, without any particular moral or statement. Just a bunch of variations on a theme. Probably the reason I feel so frustrated with the quest for the secret code that reveals the whole story is that it assumes that all art HAS to have a coherent narrative or grand statement, ignoring cases like this where it already does what it does beautifully, without any of that junk weighing it down. (Not that a hidden narrative or a statement are always junk, just it feels really unneeded in this case.)

Part of me immediately assumed the new project is a video game, but that's most likely just my current surroundings biasing things. I haven't bothered to look anything up.

stillvisions
Oct 15, 2014

I really should have come up with something better before spending five bucks on this.


Puppy Time posted:

Yeah, I feel like the videos are less meant to be a coherent mystery box story than a whole that's thematically coherent, without any particular moral or statement. Just a bunch of variations on a theme. Probably the reason I feel so frustrated with the quest for the secret code that reveals the whole story is that it assumes that all art HAS to have a coherent narrative or grand statement, ignoring cases like this where it already does what it does beautifully, without any of that junk weighing it down. (Not that a hidden narrative or a statement are always junk, just it feels really unneeded in this case.)

Part of me immediately assumed the new project is a video game, but that's most likely just my current surroundings biasing things. I haven't bothered to look anything up.

Well, if this article isn't talking out of their rear end it's a TV series: https://deadline.com/2018/09/dont-h...rry-1202464633/

I enjoyed the original series, but I don't feel like it'll be able to keep up that momentum in a longer format. Wait and see I guess.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005



stillvisions posted:

Well, if this article isn't talking out of their rear end it's a TV series: https://deadline.com/2018/09/dont-h...rry-1202464633/

I enjoyed the original series, but I don't feel like it'll be able to keep up that momentum in a longer format. Wait and see I guess.

hm. Yeah, I can see it maybe working if it ends up being a collection of shorts a la Sesame Street, but at the same time, I can't imagine even that working quite as well as single-themed, sporadic shorts.

admataY
Oct 16, 2008


Dracula 2000 had a cool spin on dracula's origin . Too bad it was wasted on a lovely early 2000's nu-horror for dumb teens . It also had a baby Gerard Butler .

Antifa Turkeesian
Aug 20, 2006



The thing Iíll always remember about Dracula 2000 never having seen it is that it was released the week before Christmas, or possibly on Christmas, in 2000. It was comforting for me to learn that even adults cut deadlines that close.

Also I just looked it up on wiki and the premise is that Van Helsing needs to buy himself decades to centuries of extra time to figure out how to kill Dracula, but it turns out sunlight actually will kill him just fine like in all the stories? Maybe some of that deadline anxiety affected the final cut.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005



business hammocks posted:

but it turns out sunlight actually will kill him just fine like in all the stories?

Except, ironically, in the actual novel they're all based on. (The movie Nosferatu introduced the sunlight thing.)

Viewtiful Jew
Apr 21, 2007
Mench'n-a-go-go-baby!

KayTee posted:

Do you remember Too Human? I did, vaguely. What I didn't know was how badly Silicon Knights behaved surrounding the project.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3TIfOKG74Q

Oh wow, seeing Lee in the comments of this vid made me feel really old cuz I have like no idea when the last time I thought about him was. It must have been like years.

stillvisions
Oct 15, 2014

I really should have come up with something better before spending five bucks on this.


business hammocks posted:

The thing Iíll always remember about Dracula 2000 never having seen it is that it was released the week before Christmas, or possibly on Christmas, in 2000. It was comforting for me to learn that even adults cut deadlines that close.

Also I just looked it up on wiki and the premise is that Van Helsing needs to buy himself decades to centuries of extra time to figure out how to kill Dracula, but it turns out sunlight actually will kill him just fine like in all the stories? Maybe some of that deadline anxiety affected the final cut.

Maybe I'm remembering it wrong but hanging was the secret ingredient needed to make him truly vulnerable, or at least actually killable that way.

Mostly I remember that movie because my morning walk to work took me right past them filming it at BCE (now Brookfield) Place in Toronto, the spot with the super-old building with a modern structure built around it.

admataY
Oct 16, 2008


As far as i remember - Asking a neon Jesus sign for forgiveness is what released Dracula to the sweet embrace of death . I didnt see it in almost 2 decades so maybe i hallucinated that part out of boredom .

edit : i was almost right which is close enough to being right!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTkSNIvrueA


now i gotta question why I cant remember the date, but sort of remember the ending of dracula 2000.

admataY fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Sep 15, 2018

Big Bob Pataki
Jan 23, 2009

The Bob that Refreshes

I actually watched Dracula 2000 and 3000 last week because my life is a mess and both are equally funny for different reasons. I mean 3000 has Coolio and a Party City Dracula on a spaceship, but 2000 has Gerard Butler watching a Monster Magnet music video at a Tower Records and proclaiming it "brilliant." Sure 3000 has Tiny Lister being referred to as being both big and black every time he's on screen, but 2000 has Vitamin C playing the main character's roommate and the soundtrack is entirely numetal.

What I'm saying is they are both good as hell.

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway


Nyx has a new channel that's just vlogging, put one up about how much she hates film school and how much it caused her to suppress her creativity. also a stealth Predator review (and Mandy review).

DoubleCakes
Jan 14, 2015



https://twitter.com/ContraPoints/st...9906974720?s=20

Antifa Turkeesian
Aug 20, 2006




I really hope this doesnít generate pages of arguments insisting that sheís a secret lib who secretly pals around with Sargon, as has happened every other time the cat character has shown up.

PS I havenít listened to it yet, but it sounds like sheís also a guest on the latest/a forthcoming episode of Anita Sarkeesianís podcast, which has a very satisfying sense of closure re: the Dark Mother stuff she moved away from a year or so ago.

Max Wilco
Jan 22, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Contra: "I'm making a video about catgirls"

Me: This looks dumb

business hammocks posted:

I really hope this doesnít generate pages of arguments insisting that sheís a secret lib who secretly pals around with Sargon, as has happened every other time the cat character has shown up.

Me: What?

Antifa Turkeesian
Aug 20, 2006



Some people really take the catgirl character as a personal attack on their politics. Itís not really unusual for people in left spaces to take disagreement personally like that, but I donít see it much in youtube videos outside of people accusing Natalie of punching left.

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016



1. I just started watching Contrapoints recently and for whatever reason I find her videos strangely entrancing. Maybe its the mood lighting, the cinematography or the cadence of her voice but whatever it is it keeps me watching. That her politics are (mostly) good is a plus as well.

2. I thought the catgirl thing was a reference to that fight between r/socialism and /leftypol/ where the former banned a socialist catgirl webcomic and the latter denounced/made fun of/went apeshit over it.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012






Leal
Oct 2, 2009

If you LP what I LP
And if you work retail like I work retail
You would also scream like I scream


Finally my clickbait thumbnails are paying off!

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012




Agree

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

low vis







They say to this day he's still screaming about it and will still be angry about it on the day he dies.

Antifa Turkeesian
Aug 20, 2006



I donít think anyone has disagreed that Sonic sucks since like 2005, even people who like it.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

low vis




business hammocks posted:

I donít think anyone has disagreed that Sonic sucks since like 2005, even people who like it.

Legitimately good things the Sonic Franchise as produced since 2005:

  • Sonic Twitter
  • Sonic Mania
  • Sonic Colors soundtrack
  • The Sonic Boom TV show
  • That Sonic cameo in Wreck It Ralph

Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously





business hammocks posted:

I donít think anyone has disagreed that Sonic sucks since like 2005, even people who like it.

You'd be surprised; they all scream about how people hating on Sonic have never read the comics or watched the serious cartoon. That's of course ignoring the fact that one is old enough to vote and the other was loving terrible to everyone except the fanboys.

Takoluka
Jun 26, 2009

Don't look at me!




nine-gear crow posted:

Legitimately good things the Sonic Franchise as produced since 2005:

  • Sonic Twitter
  • Sonic Mania
  • Sonic Colors soundtrack
  • The Sonic Boom TV show
  • That Sonic cameo in Wreck It Ralph

Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice is actually a really fun game with a lot of speedrun potential, but no one played it.

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Augus
Mar 9, 2015

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One of the popular Youtube clickbait things to do these days is to take "Sonic sucks" even further to "Sonic sucks and also it was never good in the first place you all were just jealous of Nintendo please @ me"

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