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nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

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CelticPredator posted:

I hate the NC and would be fine if I never see th shrill gun waving bald man again


But he could just call him self The Critic. Everyone calls him that away. Same character, different name.

Or, god forbid, he could just drop the character and gimmick entierly and try to grow as an entertainer and critic like Lindsay et al. did... you know, like 5 years too late to matter, but still.

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Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


He could call himself Doug. I never liked the monikers producers gave themselves.

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Two as


CelticPredator posted:

I hate the NC and would be fine if I never see th shrill gun waving bald man again


But he could just call him self The Critic. Everyone calls him that away. Same character, different name.

Jay Sherman won't be happy to hear that.

Doug should go full 90s and just replace stuff with Zs.

Noztalgia Crytyc, the most legally distinguishable critic around.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

D U S T M A N


It's not a car, and it's not for the Americas or Europe!

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

There have been 82631 posts made by sexpig by night, an average of 24.08 posts per day

The Democrats!


In unrelated posting, I'm sure Jun's Kitchen was mentioned back when I asked for cooking youtube recs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgiu9cqph5Y

I really dig this, taking americanized sushi styles and kinda 'rejapanifying' them. This is the kinda silly but cool poo poo I come to food youtube for.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

low vis




I Before E posted:

Jay Sherman won't be happy to hear that.

FWIW, Doug has repeately listed The Critic as one of his favourite TV shows.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

Did I predict the future?


Grimey Drawer

Arcsquad12 posted:

He could call himself Doug. I never liked the monikers producers gave themselves.

How about Doug Walker, Nostalgia Ranger

ApeHawk
Jun 6, 2010

All the NPCs will look up and shout, "Do this quest!"
and I'll whisper, "Sure, why not."


"Hello, I'm the Not-stalgia Critic. I memorize it so you won't have to be bothered to. *takes out minigun and fires faux-angrily into the ground*"

AriadneThread
Feb 17, 2011

The Devil sounds like smoke and honey. We cannot move. It is too beautiful.




Arcsquad12 posted:

He could call himself Doug. I never liked the monikers producers gave themselves.

every episode is made of recut clips of Disney's Brand Spanking New! Doug

Antifa Turkeesian
Aug 20, 2006




Itís nice to see you getting tapped for stuff like this rather than people like, say, the Fine bros.

It would be a nice development for 2018 if you entered into a mutually beneficial relationship with people who knew how to run a business and treated you professionally.

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


lornekates posted:

Thanks, I appreciate the support.

The (long) short of it is:

1) A user was posting a Howard Stern related running gag in the Howard Stern thread. To refrain from drawing too much attention to this user, I'll just call him "The Petty loving Whiny poo poo-Fucker Known as Immortal Anime", or "Immortal Anime" for short.
2) A bunch of baby-pants Howard Stern fans got upset at an unfunny, worn-out "joke", which is super ironic given who they listen to.
3) I get near daily reports of "Immortal Anime posted Baba Booey wah wah". I laugh and file them under "Ignore". So let this be on the record, I was on the side of Immortal Anime and actively defending him against false reports of "thread-making GBS threads".
4) Some 50+ reports over several weeks later, I figure fine, let's make this fair. Post, to effect "Since this is a running joke, I will allow it as long as it's running. For as long as IA posts this once a day, every day, it isn't banned. Everyone else also is allowed to post this once a day with no repercussions. BUT if IA misses even a single day, the running joke has stopped running, and I'll agree it's thread-making GBS threads. Anyone posting it gets a probe/ban. I probably won't monitor it, so you have to let me know that the rule was broken. Anyone complaining to me around it gets a probation."
5) So it's a bog-standard "SomethingAwful is nonesense" thread rule. As is the, as I keep hearing, "SomethingAwful Culture".
6) IA misses a day, and the rule kicks in.
7) Some people explicitly test the rule, and get reported. They get a probation and/or ban. All is good and everyone is happy.
8) Some time later, someone else breaks the rule.
9) IA starts whining "MODS!". Literally. It's in the thread, you can go see it yourself. He also sends me a PM complaining about it. Note that this is against the rules, that everyone else was adhering too.
10) In the interest of fairness, I punish the original poster-- but also give Immortal Anime a short probation for breaking the rules. Maybe it was a day? I can't be arsed to check.
10.5) Again, can't be arsed, but I think for coming off his short probe-- wait, I think it was coming off the probe AND posting in the Howard Stern thread something like "gently caress you bitch rear end mod you can't touch me". Yeah, I think that was it. Well, that's just above and beyond any thread-rule thing. That's just rudeness and sass. So he gets a month probe for being so willfully brazen. I honestly don't care about the insults myself, but it isn't a good look to let someone who is already annoying the thread get away with off-topic straight out insults.
11) All seems well. Then Immortal Anime poops his diaper like a baby and starts to cry like a wussy to his friends who are mods in another thread.
12) They give him a short probation for something else. Depending on who you believe, it was either for breaking a rule in a different subforum (which happened to have the sideeffect of cancelling out the month-long probation-- that's how the SA mod system works for some reason)-- or it was doing that just as a cover story for intentionally evading a probation under a flimsy excuse. I think we can guess which way I lean now.
12.5) In fact, take special note of #12. IA was on probation, so he couldn't have posted something NEW that got him probated. That means that a moderator went back to an old post, and probated him for that. An old post. In the past. Keep a note of that.
13) I send a PM to the moderator "Hey, just an FYI, that user is on a month-long probe, just so we don't override each others' probes", because I figured it was an honest mistake. I don't hear anything back from that mod. Since I have no idea how that mod is related, and can't check on the mod queue anymore, I'll withhold that name.
14) I also make a post in the moderator subforums pretty much the same FYI, since I figure that's the best way to communicate with the other mods. In the mod subforum. For moderators. Where moderators talk to each other. Y'know.
15) An admin basically says "I retracted the overriding probe, I'll keep an eye on it". I say thank you.
16) I start getting PMs from several users alerting me that, once again, Immortal Anime has had his buddies short-circuit his probation. People are noticing that he's circumventing the rules, which is, again, not a good look. In fact, in the reading I did when I became a mod, I was under the impression that evading a probe or ban was itself a bannable / permabannable offense.
17) I re-queue the month ban because that is only fair.
18) Poopy-pants Immortal Anime, now that he's hidden under the skirt of his Mommy, sticks his tongue out at me, because he is a very mature adult. He starts emailing me PMs that range from insults to threats to nigh-doxxing. (Well, he thought he was being a Big Boy by insinuating he doxxed me, but since all he actually unearthed was one of the top hits when you google my name, it wasn't very impressive. For the record, it was the Master Chef Canada audition tape I put together for a laugh: https://vimeo.com/70910715).
19) I reply cordially to him, explaining at first that the most ironinc thing about his tantrum is that he actually had my support for his running joke. I had been explicitly protecting him-- rejecting requests to probate him for the running joke, and in fact came up with the thread rule to not only CONTINUE the running joke, but to actively punish anyone who tried to stop him. And instead he turn an ally into an enemy all on his own. My last PM to him is to calmly say "Look, my PMs are for moderator related communications. So unless this is official business, please don't PM me.". In other words, "I'm asking you nicely to stop trying to harass me, and I'm making that clear. This is me giving you an out to just walk away and not escalate this."
20) His response is to throw more mod sass. Like most "tee hee I'm being so clever" idiots, the words themselves are innocuous, but the intention is blatant. I don't like people like that. I really don't.
21) I do make these conversations and PM mod sass known in the Moderator threads. The message I get is basically "Yeah, people sassing in PM is a no-no, and is usually a punishable offense". Gotcha.
22) So, since I can't take an action on a PM (a mod can only action on posts in their own subform), I go back to find a post by Immortal Anime to action on. I was under the impression that you can't submit a probation on a post that already had a probation against it. I might have been mistaking, I can't confirm that-- typing this I might have been thinking "a user can't SUBMIT a mod report on a post that's already been reported". The first one I come across that hasn't been actioned on is one of his joke posts. I put a, I want to say 1 or 3 day on it. Kinda a subtle acknowledgement to the people who are already probing him for 1 or 3 days. It's short enough that if they try to evade it, they'll only make it longer by effect.
23) I start to get harassing PMs from Immortal Anime's friends. They are "harassing" in the same way-- innocuous phrase, intention is clear. I honestly don't care because it's a PM, but it's amusing in a way that watching a child trying to walk in Daddy's shoes is. They're just trying SO HARD to be Big Boy. But I don't really want a PM box full of people sending me these, so I respond with what is effectively a form letter, with the same intention as the one I sent to IA. "Thanks for emailing, I appreciate you taking the time. However, this PM is for mod business, etc, etc". If anyone has ever worked customer service, you know exactly how you handle an irate customer. They either want help, which you're here for them, or they want to yell, in which case you need to end the conversation. With a smile. I get a couple "you're weird" replies, but the PMs go away.
23.5) For the record, those PM users are, since you can easily cross-reference with people who are crying and lying in the QQcs thread: "pog boyfriend", "stay safe", "grumple wumpkins", and the lovely "gently caress My rear end".
24) All of the above is basically communicated in the Moderator sub-forum too, because I like to give co-workers a heads-up when a shitstorm is brewing, because there can be splash back. Also, so that if they're getting PMs or complaints with lies in them (again I'll point you to the QQcs thread), they have my version on hand. Silly me, I thought the word of a moderator, who is also a poster in good standing with the forum, would have more weight than some trolls with a grudge.
25) At this point, FactsAreUseless says he won't protect my month long probation. Whatever.
26) I log in and I'm demodded. (I wasn't aware of what's going on in QQcs thread at the time)
26.5) Now that I *AM* aware of that thread, remember what I said about point 12? "IA was on probation, so he couldn't have posted something NEW that got him probated. That means that a moderator went back to an old post, and probated him for that. An old post. In the past.". So yeah, check out that QQcs thread-- and note that the thing his buddies are complaining about is that he was probated for. The exact same thing. Funny how they can do one thing, then complain about other people do that same thing. Hmm, almost as if they're being-- disingenuous or something.
27) You'll note there is no bullet-point here where anyone from the Admin team says "Hey, Lorne, there's some performance we're unhappy about, so let's talk about it like adults to come to a mutually beneficial outcome". Or "We're thinking of demodding you, can you give us your side of this situation".
28) I log in and find I'm demodded, and a message from FactsAreUseless saying "I don't know if that's the way to phrase it, and I've never sent one of these before, so this will be super awkward. Anyway, we've demodded you. You seem like you're trying to be very serious and professional about moderation, but in a way that isn't really compatible with the forums. Thanks for all the work you put into RGD. I appreciate it."
29) What the gently caress? "serious and professional" about moderation. Yeah, no poo poo, that's what you do in a position of power and responsibility. And "serious", what the gently caress, have you ever read one of my posts? Did you SEE the goddamn hoop-jumpy stupid fun thread rule I put into place? And your appreciation is to demod me with no discussion? I feel REAL appreciated there, buddy.
30) And you will notice the "we" in there. Yeah, so, after talking with some other mods & admins though basically a few "What happened?!?" emails, trying to understand what happened, the messaging I get back is "We're surprised too. There was no discussion about this. No one on the admin team was part of this decision, just FactsAreUseless. Sorry."
31) I write this "short" post.

tldr: So there you go. A pissy-baby shitfucker known as Immortal Anime gets special privileges from a moderator. He then manages to still mess that up, and gets punished for it. He whines to his friends who help him evade punishment. He throws abuse, and gets punished for it. His friends whine, lie and misrepresent what happened. The whining makes it's way to an admin who is friends with the whiny babies. The admin acts on his own to demod me.

And what would a post be without some screenshots?

Immortal Anime going "wah wah my friends like me better i'm not mad ur mad it was just a joke and u don't like fun" (again, remember, the entire point of these rules was to LET him have his annoying fun). Note the pathetic attempt at "doxxing" there.



(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Hahahaha

21 Muns
Dec 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless


SocialBlade seems to be broken at the moment; it hasn't updated Channel Awesome's subscriber loss in many hours. If you switch to the live view, you can see that it's lost over 800 today, but they're displaying it as 291 elsewhere.

It's been just about two weeks since they started hemorrhaging subscribers, and at the current rate, at the end of the day, they'll have had a full two weeks of losing over a thousand subscribers each day.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

low vis





Yeah, by all means keep quoting it after we've long since moved on from it

IronicDongz
Aug 18, 2013

there he goes

It is pretty funny.

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010



somekindofguy posted:

Let me give a shout out to a YouTube channel called Mr. Puzzle. He unboxes and goes over a bunch of mechanical puzzles and explains how you might solve them. He recently did a video on an expensive puzzle called...ISIS.

I really like Mr. Puzzle, he gives a good detailed review as best he can before going through solving it and he's just a simple delight to listen to.

DoubleCakes
Jan 14, 2015



Speaking of puzzles...

A couple years ago I vowed to beat the metroidvania game La-Mulana without a guide. How long did it take me? Over 260 hours.

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


nine-gear crow posted:

Yeah, by all means keep quoting it after we've long since moved on from it

Sorry

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?




Oh hey that's really cool for you, good to see them recognizing talent.
Your fashion game is on point as always.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011



Arcsquad12 posted:

He could call himself Doug. I never liked the monikers producers gave themselves.
I think itís fine if youíre posing it as a distinct character so people donít mistake an act for your genuine feelings on something.

Miss Wallace
Feb 24, 2013

The nights will never be the same. ARARARAR!


Zedd posted:

Oh hey that's really cool for you, good to see them recognizing talent.
Your fashion game is on point as always.

Thanks, they've been super cool with me. It's great to be able to do something for them, they've provided me so much entertainment over the years.
(And thanks about the outfit, I love that shirt )

WHY BONER NOW
Mar 6, 2016


Pillbug


This is very cool, I hope it evolves into you taking part in a rifftrax some day. That dark future movie looks confusing as all hell.

For what it's worth, I'm feeling Rifftraxin' a little more than Rectrax. But what do I know!

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything




Fun Shoe

Today's Jimquisition is all about how big assholes the developers of Playerunknown's Battlegrounds are

"They made a Flaming Homer and didn't think far enough ahead to stop the Flaming Moe."

Mokinokaro fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Apr 16, 2018

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




it's one of the few games i play but the devs are dumb as hell so looking forward to this.

edit: LOL did he play tpp on console just to troll extra hard?

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Apr 16, 2018

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



A new Jon Bois thing where he and someone else get all nerdy about sports stats called "Dorktown" that's "Like Chart Party but both better and worse". Here they look at Shaq and see what would have happened if he'd missed all 11,252 of his free throws:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioDskqAHOrI

KayTee
May 5, 2012

Whachoodoin?


*chases after thread*

Hang on!

To contribute to the short creepy short film list from earlier - young Kay once saw this and it gave them nightmares for about a month:

Sky Whales


And to contribute to MovieBob chat the greatest thing he has ever produced:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhYMAEBOR_4#t=459s

Part of me wants to list all the things I love about this video, but another part of me wants the fresh faces in here to experience it anew. And I know it might be unfair to poke fun at something that is several years old and made at a time when Internet Critic Videos followed a very specific formula, but I haven't seen all that much change and improvement in the guy so gently caress him! Enjoy!

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




my fave jon bois moment:

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010




I dunno how to feel about the new Jon Bois segment. I think I like Jon the most when it's just him, whenever someone who isn't Jon is talking my interest just drops to zero.

Just have Jon commentate everything solo in his slightly bored, semi-monotone voice, and I'll watch it. Hell, he doesn't even have to do the charts, I'd listen to him ramble about things to himself in a podcast forever.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

If you LP what I LP
And if you work retail like I work retail
You would also scream like I scream


Mokinokaro posted:

Today's Jimquisition is all about how big assholes the developers of Playerunknown's Battlegrounds are

"They made a Flaming Homer and didn't think far enough ahead to stop the Flaming Moe."

Anyone really surprised that a dev who named a game after themselves have some high opinions of their product?

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007



Groovelord Neato posted:

my fave jon bois moment:



Followed up next year by, inevitably:

https://twitter.com/jon_bois/status/960351740527771648

ACES CURE PLANES posted:

I dunno how to feel about the new Jon Bois segment. I think I like Jon the most when it's just him, whenever someone who isn't Jon is talking my interest just drops to zero.

Just have Jon commentate everything solo in his slightly bored, semi-monotone voice, and I'll watch it. Hell, he doesn't even have to do the charts, I'd listen to him ramble about things to himself in a podcast forever.

I think that Card Show was really fun purely for the subject matter, not too sure about this one yet. It's not the usual super high Jon Bois level but then there's not many who can match him.

Still worth the 95% of videos from SB Nation on my feed that I will never watch for the 5% that are done by him

Kim Justice fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Apr 16, 2018

John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I have special eyes.

Just think of all the cool stuff I can see.


Mokinokaro posted:

Today's Jimquisition is all about how big assholes the developers of Playerunknown's Battlegrounds are

"They made a Flaming Homer and didn't think far enough ahead to stop the Flaming Moe."

You know, I've always felt that they at least had a point with Fortnite, because that was a little more than just "somebody made a PUBG clone waah". But then the PUBG CEO started talking about wanting to be able to trademark game mechanics and now we have poo poo like "this PUBG clone ripped us off, it has a port with shipping containers!!! " or hilariously trying to claim they somehow own the airdrop concept, so gently caress 'em.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




was kinda bummed with the jimquisition thought he'd go over how they've mishandled the game itself.

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!


Kim Justice posted:

Still worth the 95% of videos from SB Nation on my feed that I will never watch for the 5% that are done by him

There's some of 'em that I do watch because they catch my attention and interest but I inevitably leave it thinking "that was okay but the delivery was kinda shite and not the fun sorta dry."

Augus
Mar 9, 2015

BORN TO DIE
WORLD IS A FUCK
Kill Em All 1989
I am trash man
410,757,864,530 DEAD COPS






La Mulana is a bit hard to discuss because puzzles are a very subjective thing, what's very hard for you might be easy for me and vice versa. But still, I love La Mulana's obtuseness that forces you to pay attention to minor details, take notes, and draw connections between hints that might be on the complete opposite sides of the map. Props to you for following through with your commitment to beating it without a guide, even if it take an absurd amount of time. It's such an absorbing world to get hopelessly lost in and it's a game that I have a great fondness for. Still waiting with baited breath for the sequel

BigRed0427
Mar 22, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.




Thats really cool. So this is a sponsorship deal you have with them?

I actually fell out of Rifftrax a bit, guess I gotta start watching again.

BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Apr 16, 2018

Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously








Someone posted this on another forum that I frequent and I just gotta say that it is superb.

echopapa
Jun 2, 2005

El Presidente smiles upon this thread.

Mokinokaro posted:

Apparently the trademark is owned by 4 people (Mike and Greg Michaud, Rob and Doug Walker) so Michaud can't do anything solo with it either. A fifth owner was supposed to be brought on this week, likely Doug's father who has been more hands on with Doug's work since his wife passed away a few years back.

Not as such, no: the trademark belongs to Channel Awesome, Inc.



The majority owner in a closely-held corporation is usually functionally the sole owner, unless theyíre colossal idiots. Mike Michaud is the majority owner. So he could recast the character over Dougís objections, even if Doug remained a minority owner in the company, and pay Doug nothing.

More likely, the corporation dissolves, with everyone getting a little piece of whatever assets they have left after their debts are paid. Whoever made the personal guarantee on the lease for the warehouse is going to get soaked for a month or two of rent. The trademarks donít get renewed.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless


I do have to wonder what's gonna happen next for CA. If Doug leaves then what are they gonna even do? Just stop uploading videos? If he does leave I can't imagine they would say nothing but then, I can't imagine anything they would say wouldn't just do more damage.

Considering how innocuous this all started, with some people bitching about it on twitter, to now, where it's very likely the whole site is shutting down, it's just... drat, Mike has no idea how to run a business. He did nothing but pour fuel on the fire, and anything he could have done to fix things he deliberately sabotaged to make things worse. Any other business that size would have been able to weather the storm fine, but Mike somehow made this unworkable.


rujasu
Dec 18, 2013



Not gonna lie, I kinda want to see the ending where Michaud milks those last remaining dollars from the NC trademark by casting himself as the new Critic.

Of course, that won't happen, because he'll just hold an open casting call for someone else to be the new NC and not get paid for it!

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!


Big fan of That Larry With The Glasses

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DoubleCakes
Jan 14, 2015



Augus posted:

La Mulana is a bit hard to discuss because puzzles are a very subjective thing, what's very hard for you might be easy for me and vice versa. But still, I love La Mulana's obtuseness that forces you to pay attention to minor details, take notes, and draw connections between hints that might be on the complete opposite sides of the map. Props to you for following through with your commitment to beating it without a guide, even if it take an absurd amount of time. It's such an absorbing world to get hopelessly lost in and it's a game that I have a great fondness for. Still waiting with baited breath for the sequel

Forcing me to take notes was a large part of why I liked the experience. As for getting stuck, I'm not the first person to get stuck where I did. Apparently that puzzle is a very popular stopping point.

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