Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Antifa Turkeesian
Aug 20, 2006



James Rolfe is so earnest. I will always regard him fondly because he is basically a 14-year-old broadcasting through a time hole from 1996.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Yaws
Oct 22, 2013




If this thread about YT drama keemstar and his ilk are ripe for discussion.

Channel Awesome is dead. It's done.

Max Wilco
Jan 22, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

DEEP STATE PLOT posted:

the best avgn video is earthbound because he mostly doesn't do the toilet humor poo poo. i too have grown out of that, but otoh james also does other videos outside of that series where he talks a lot more matter-of-fact and those are pretty good.

compared to, say, every single one of his imitators, he's always been a lot less one dimensional, and hell he can be pretty fuckin funny describing terrible games when he isn't using toilet humor to do it.

I haven't watched that one, but if you want an AVGN episode that's (largely) free of toilet humor, the Pong Consoles is a good watch because it's just him covering the various home versions of consoles.


DoubleCakes posted:

"I could literally be making a sculpture of a horse taking a poo poo out of poo poo by the time it takes to get up there."

See, I still find lines like these funny, because of how ludicrous they get. There was one from some episode I was re-watching that just made me burst out laughing, but I can't remember what it was.

One that does stick out in my mind is when he's talking about the hypothetical Lester the Unlikely sequels. "There's a new one coming out on PS4, using the latest technology to make the disc out of orangutan feces...just turned out that was the only way, and really gives Blu-Ray a run for its money."


sponges posted:

This isn’t a side of Youtube that this thread talks about but I hate Keemstar.

Keemstar, you say...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o3TfHjj_e4

Max Wilco fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Sep 28, 2018

Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


Keemstar was in Hunt Down the Freeman.

His crimes are unforgivable.

Yaws
Oct 22, 2013



I love Content Cop.

gently caress Rice Gum

21 Muns
Dec 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless


I was a huge NC fan as a kid, I gradually moved over to AVGN (and eventually mostly grew out of that too), but I only realized today that Doug's just been a bad AVGN imitator this whole time. I'm kind of embarrassed that it took this long for me to notice, even after getting personally disillusioned with Doug this year thanks to ChangeTheChannel.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012


"poo poo gently caress diarrhoea bullshit from a horse's gently caress" is a lot less unpleasant than "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKYOU<gunshots>"

StealthArcher
Jan 10, 2010






Yeah, I still like watching avgn occasionally, the earthbound episode was actually kinda nice.

Watch this be comically ruined by Doug somehow getting into one. Maybe Brad will show up too as he seems desperate to keep him as his hanger on.

Dragonatrix
Aug 16, 2009

You have offended STRINGIE! You must be punished!


Youtube kept popping this up in my recommendations for some reason and I don't think it's been posted in this thread yet. It's a long watch (2 hours), and the video title intentionally copies what Hbomb names some of his long-form critiques but:

Steven Universe Is Garbage And Here's Why

Personally, I've never really watched Steven Universe since even the people who like it make it sound really scattershot and boring, so this was genuinely interesting and fascinating to see just how much of a mess it really is. On like every single level possible, really.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 17, 2013





You know I was afraid for a bit you had linked a different person who also made hours long videos on all the same topics as this guy but was an open bigot. But no this appears to just be something that multiple people make multihour long rants about.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

low vis




Terrible Opinions posted:

You know I was afraid for a bit you had linked a different person who also made hours long videos on all the same topics as this guy but was an open bigot. But no this appears to just be something that multiple people make multihour long rants about.

Thatís the people of this world ♪
Believe in~
Garnet!
Amethyst!
And Pearl!
And

Roth
Jul 9, 2016


We should put hbomberguy on trial for introducing this video format.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 17, 2013





matthewmatosis is the first sinner here not hbomb.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016


Oh, I thought I knew this person. This is the youtuber that makes MLP critical videos and complains about the bad guys being redeemed being like encouraging school shooters or some poo poo like that.

Akett
Aug 6, 2012



Are you perhaps thinking of Confused Matthew?

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

low vis




Akett posted:

Are you perhaps thinking of Confused Matthew?

Wrong. No one ever thinks about Confused Matthew. Ever.

rvm
May 6, 2013


nine-gear crow posted:

Wrong. No one ever thinks about Confused Matthew. Ever.

His 2001 Space Odyssey review is a classic.

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006


AVGN's Castlevania series is mandatory watching at least once a year

Augus
Mar 9, 2015

BORN TO DIE
WORLD IS A FUCK
Kill Em All 1989
I am trash man
410,757,864,530 DEAD COPS





Dragonatrix posted:

Youtube kept popping this up in my recommendations for some reason and I don't think it's been posted in this thread yet. It's a long watch (2 hours), and the video title intentionally copies what Hbomb names some of his long-form critiques but:

Steven Universe Is Garbage And Here's Why

Personally, I've never really watched Steven Universe since even the people who like it make it sound really scattershot and boring, so this was genuinely interesting and fascinating to see just how much of a mess it really is. On like every single level possible, really.

it's actually real good, fam

Antifa Turkeesian
Aug 20, 2006



Dabir posted:

"poo poo gently caress diarrhoea bullshit from a horse's gently caress" is a lot less unpleasant than "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKYOU<gunshots>"

All the imitators forgot that James Rolfe has a pleasant voice and is charming in his relatively gormless way. I enjoy his new series where he sits in his basement (thatís been done up to perfectly replicate an early 90s video store) and talks about what parts of Predator were the most awesome.

Viewtiful Jew
Apr 21, 2007
Mench'n-a-go-go-baby!

Roth posted:

Oh, I thought I knew this person. This is the youtuber that makes MLP critical videos and complains about the bad guys being redeemed being like encouraging school shooters or some poo poo like that.

Still if all the diamonds really do get redeemed by the end of the show without any consequences for the masses of lives they've ruined as well as the ones they've snuffed out totally over the millennia it's gonna feel really weird.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010




Viewtiful Jew posted:

Still if all the diamonds really do get redeemed by the end of the show without any consequences for the masses of lives they've ruined as well as the ones they've snuffed out totally over the millennia it's gonna feel really weird.

It's a children's show

Augus
Mar 9, 2015

BORN TO DIE
WORLD IS A FUCK
Kill Em All 1989
I am trash man
410,757,864,530 DEAD COPS





I clicked to a random point in that video and it was a buncha nerd-bitching about how the characters are off-model in some scenes and why are the animators so loving lazy

lol Iím not watching this

Vonnie
Sep 13, 2011


"Hide your gays"

"Rose Quartz is a loving oval office" Classy.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005



Robobuddies did a video criticizing Steven Universe that probably covers the same material* but in half the time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaR8KO4VFPM

*I am not blowing 2 hours on a youtube rant by someone I don't know on a subject I only moderately care about to see if the complaints match up

DrVenkman
Dec 27, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.


I came to AVGN late so it never quite clicked for me, and I find Rolfe to be nothing more than surface level in his criticism, but he's also likeable and kind of endearing in his positivity a lot of the time.

I think actually having a life and not allowing his online persona to rule his life is probably the key to that.

khwarezm
Oct 26, 2010

Deal with it.

Puppy Time posted:

Robobuddies did a video criticizing Steven Universe that probably covers the same material* but in half the time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaR8KO4VFPM

*I am not blowing 2 hours on a youtube rant by someone I don't know on a subject I only moderately care about to see if the complaints match up

Robobuddies at least makes some more robust arguments about things like flat framing and poor art rather than the tedious arguments from the other video which boil down to the show being horribly immoral for not patting the viewer on the head and telling them yes the brutal space fascists are indeed bad people we need to say this out loud directly no matter how obviously self evident this should be from just watching the drat thing.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008



Everyone's favorite chill German, Three Arrows, tackles the Right's favorite talking point: was Hilter a socialist?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUFvG4RpwJI

Spoilers: He wasn't.

Solitair
Feb 18, 2014

This statement is a lie!


Dragonatrix posted:

Youtube kept popping this up in my recommendations for some reason and I don't think it's been posted in this thread yet. It's a long watch (2 hours), and the video title intentionally copies what Hbomb names some of his long-form critiques but:

Steven Universe Is Garbage And Here's Why

Personally, I've never really watched Steven Universe since even the people who like it make it sound really scattershot and boring, so this was genuinely interesting and fascinating to see just how much of a mess it really is. On like every single level possible, really.

I'm not watching this video yet because I want to watch the show first, but I did see "The Legend of Korra Is Garbage and Here's Why" by the same creator. On one hand, they touched on a lot of what made Korra a frustrating watch, but on the other, they go into it with a lot of baffling base assumptions, the greatest of which being that animation is for kids and anyone who tries to make adult animation is doing so because they're insecure.

Solitair fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Sep 28, 2018

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008



Biggest problem with Korra is that they tried to do 13 episodes but didn't have the writing chops or weren't used to the format to adapt for it. There was a lot of filler in Last Airbender but they had a lot of character development in the non-filler episodes. Korra didn't quite work in the time they were given or chose to have. In the last season, Korra and Asami having a relationship was a cool addition but they have like two scenes together in the entire season and never really have a heart-to-heart except at the very end. It's why people felt like it was some sudden thing and why the creator's were tooting their own horn when they played it up.

The comics were pretty alright, though.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016


Viewtiful Jew posted:

Still if all the diamonds really do get redeemed by the end of the show without any consequences for the masses of lives they've ruined as well as the ones they've snuffed out totally over the millennia it's gonna feel really weird.

The show's not even over yet, so maybe wait on that first.

ScentOfAnOtaku
Aug 25, 2006

I have no control, I just keep eating, and eating.


business hammocks posted:

All the imitators forgot that James Rolfe has a pleasant voice and is charming in his relatively gormless way. I enjoy his new series where he sits in his basement (thatís been done up to perfectly replicate an early 90s video store) and talks about what parts of Predator were the most awesome.

Just recently, I unsubscribed from Cinemassacre's channel because I really just want stuff from Rolfe and nothing from Mike matei or Ryan. It used to be a drop everything moment when a new vid came out but I still haven't watched Drake and probably won't anytime soon. Mike/Ryan just rub me the wrong way, and I guess I've just grown out of avgn's humor.

Someone mentioned it a few pages back, but I find it weird that I'm much more excited for a Stop Skeletons From Fighting vid these days. Never would have thought that a few years ago.

Dragonatrix
Aug 16, 2009

You have offended STRINGIE! You must be punished!


Solitair posted:

I'm not watching this video yet because I want to watch the show first, but I did see "The Legend of Korra Is Garbage and Here's Why" by the same creator. On one hand, they touched on a lot of what made Korra a frustrating watch, but on the other, they go into it with a lot of baffling base assumptions, the greatest of which being that animation is for kids and anyone who tries to make adult animation is doing so because they're insecure.

That... that is a really weird take. Like, there's an offhand mention of something similar in the SU video nearish the end, but I took it to be more "cartoons can be made just for kids and that's not a bad thing" and not "all cartoons are for kids only stop pretending otherwise."

And, I did notice that video but didn't watch it myself. Korra's something I absolutely still need to get around to watching at some point... but I also need to finish TLA first, though.

Junpei Hyde
Mar 15, 2013


Never believe in lies





Dragonatrix posted:

That... that is a really weird take. Like, there's an offhand mention of something similar in the SU video nearish the end, but I took it to be more "cartoons can be made just for kids and that's not a bad thing" and not "all cartoons are for kids only stop pretending otherwise."

And, I did notice that video but didn't watch it myself. Korra's something I absolutely still need to get around to watching at some point... but I also need to finish TLA first, though.

You should, TLA earns basically every bit of praise it gets imo

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?



Augus posted:

I clicked to a random point in that video and it was a buncha nerd-bitching about how the characters are off-model in some scenes and why are the animators so loving lazy

lol Iím not watching this

Yeah having watched a good chunk of it now, video's really Not Good, a bunch of it's reheated /co/ takes and bizarre projection.

Solitair
Feb 18, 2014

This statement is a lie!


Jimbot posted:

Biggest problem with Korra is that they tried to do 13 episodes but didn't have the writing chops or weren't used to the format to adapt for it. There was a lot of filler in Last Airbender but they had a lot of character development in the non-filler episodes. Korra didn't quite work in the time they were given or chose to have. In the last season, Korra and Asami having a relationship was a cool addition but they have like two scenes together in the entire season and never really have a heart-to-heart except at the very end. It's why people felt like it was some sudden thing and why the creator's were tooting their own horn when they played it up.

The comics were pretty alright, though.

Seems like the writing team wanted to do a lot of things different without realizing that they'd be playing against their strengths as writers.

Dragonatrix posted:

That... that is a really weird take. Like, there's an offhand mention of something similar in the SU video nearish the end, but I took it to be more "cartoons can be made just for kids and that's not a bad thing" and not "all cartoons are for kids only stop pretending otherwise."

And, I did notice that video but didn't watch it myself. Korra's something I absolutely still need to get around to watching at some point... but I also need to finish TLA first, though.

Other odd takes I remember from the Korra video:
-Netflix binging is bad and you should feel bad for doing it. I agree with Lily that there's a strong temptation to ignore episodic structure in the age of streaming, mostly to a show's detriment, but what business is it of theirs how I watch my television?
-Anarchism is stupid because it always leads to a power vacuum paving the way for totalitarianism. I don't know enough about politics to put my finger on why exactly this take is dumb, but I have a gut feeling that it is.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




this is the "bad" naturo animation i was talking about a few pages back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp9wBqIUQ7g

the reeling back for the punch looks cool (around 1:30) and they all complain about it.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?



I've never understood weebs whining about that scene either, style looks cool.

Baka-nin
Jan 25, 2015



Solitair posted:

Seems like the writing team wanted to do a lot of things different without realizing that they'd be playing against their strengths as writers.


Other odd takes I remember from the Korra video:
-Netflix binging is bad and you should feel bad for doing it. I agree with Lily that there's a strong temptation to ignore episodic structure in the age of streaming, mostly to a show's detriment, but what business is it of theirs how I watch my television?
-Anarchism is stupid because it always leads to a power vacuum paving the way for totalitarianism. I don't know enough about politics to put my finger on why exactly this take is dumb, but I have a gut feeling that it is.

Oh, Oh I know what's wrong with the last part its political Anarchism is not what's depicted in the show so talking about it at all in regards to Korra is really, really dumb. More to the point that's kinda of nonsense, there have been multiple Totalitarian regimes in existence over the years and none of them came out of Anarchism. Nazi Germany, Fascist Japan and Italy all came out of fairly Democratic societies with functioning governments. The USSR was born out of an insurrection against what was basically a coalition dictatorship of parties and officers, so there's no evidence for that claim. If anything the history of Totalitarianism is a reason why Anarchism is a good idea, because all the examples involved the co-option of repressive institutions like the police and army and background nationalism and respect for authority to establish themselves.

And those don't really exist in Anarchist organised territories.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

khwarezm
Oct 26, 2010

Deal with it.

Baka-nin posted:


And those don't really exist in Anarchist organised territories.

Hard to say much considering the paucity of genuinely anachist organised societies for a long period of time.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply