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Annointed
Mar 2, 2013



The Bee posted:

Is it bad if I actually find TF2's crates worse than most in the business? Even the most exploitative lootboxes can at least be opened for free at some point, but you legit aren't getting your TF2 crates open unless you shell out for keys. You also only get one item, and it could legit just be a normal weapon you'd otherwise get from a random drop. Maybe when the idea of a shooter having a drop system was new and quaint it was fine, but with the way the industry's winds are blowing it just seems kinda rotten to me.

Yeah that was the reason why when I played TF2 I never wanted to pay to open the loot crates. Also because I was too lazy to unlock weapons for the meme build I wanted to use.

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Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything




Fun Shoe

HopperUK posted:

Todd (in the Shadows) is panicking on Twitter. I think he might have got some nasty copyright strikes.

YouTube apparently cut the clip length their bots allow for "fair use" from 10 seconds to 7 the day article 13 passed in Europe.

Todd is seriously thinking it might have killed his entire youtube career.

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

[culla=big red]TufFEE did nO THINg W̡RA̸NG[/read]



i was sure it was already like, five. wow

in any case the cover of Dare made specifically for the video got flagged for revenue-sharing with some conglomerates. So there's that.

quote:

Claimed by: LatinAutor - SonyATV, LatinAutor, BMG Rights Management, Kobalt Music Publishing, UBEM, ARESA, LatinAutor - PeerMusic, Abramus Digital and EMI Music Publishing


I wasn't aware you could monetize someone else's cover like that

Viewtiful Jew
Apr 21, 2007
Mench'n-a-go-go-baby!

Mokinokaro posted:

YouTube apparently cut the clip length their bots allow for "fair use" from 10 seconds to 7 the day article 13 passed in Europe.

Todd is seriously thinking it might have killed his entire youtube career.

This seems like something YouTube should have maybe probably mentioned on their official Twitter accounts or with an e-mail announcement or something.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

If you LP what I LP
And if you work retail like I work retail
You would also scream like I scream


Hbomberguy posted:

i was sure it was already like, five. wow

in any case the cover of Dare made specifically for the video got flagged for revenue-sharing with some conglomerates. So there's that.



I wasn't aware you could monetize someone else's cover like that

Checking youtube's list thing where you enter a song and they let you know if you can use it or not, they have a section detailing covers. Which is insane that they're giving companies power over covers.
https://www.youtube.com/music_policies

Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


Viewtiful Jew posted:

This seems like something YouTube should have maybe probably mentioned on their official Twitter accounts or with an e-mail announcement or something.

Lol you think Youtube "communicates"

Viewtiful Jew
Apr 21, 2007
Mench'n-a-go-go-baby!

I wonder if it's better for Theme Park video bloggers to go on the most crowded days because all the noise pollution from the crowds can drown out the licensed music they pipe into parks easier.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005



Viewtiful Jew posted:

This seems like something YouTube should have maybe probably mentioned on their official Twitter accounts or with an e-mail announcement or something.

"Should have," maybe. "Would ever," not so much. YT has no respect for any of its creators.

Max Wilco
Jan 22, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Caddicarus | Sekiro is WAY TOO EASY

...and might I say. Sekiro is a game I have not played yet.

stillvisions
Oct 15, 2014

I really should have come up with something better before spending five bucks on this.


Leal posted:

Checking youtube's list thing where you enter a song and they let you know if you can use it or not, they have a section detailing covers. Which is insane that they're giving companies power over covers.
https://www.youtube.com/music_policies

That's the norm for IP rights and cover songs; there's two entities, the recording (what was committed to tape) and the song (what was written). You can obtain a mechanical license to cover a song (i.e. make and sell your own recording of it) generally without the permission of the original song owners (compulsory license) but sync rights (the right to use a song alongside video) belong to the owner of the song's sync rights, and aren't given by default. So yes, you can pay an artist to make a cover of a song and sell it on your CD for a fixed rate of a few cents a copy, no permission needed, but you can't make a music video for your own cover without permission of/payment to the original songwriter (or whoever holds the rights now).

I'm not saying it's good or right, but that's YouTube following established law; nothing's changed there.

It's a quiet but apparently common practice for famous bands to cover their own greatest hits to sell to films - their original contract owner has the rights to their recording and profits off the cover, but they retained the sync rights to the song. They give a few cents to their old contract holders for each copy sold but they get to keep the cash from the sync rights. And the best part is since the rights holders have the final say over any version of the song, they can demand their own "cover" is the one the studio picks.

So if you're ever listening to a song you know very well from a movie and you're like "that's weird, it sounds a bit different than the one I know, wonder why?" it's probably that.

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011





The Bee posted:

Is it bad if I actually find TF2's crates worse than most in the business? Even the most exploitative lootboxes can at least be opened for free at some point, but you legit aren't getting your TF2 crates open unless you shell out for keys. You also only get one item, and it could legit just be a normal weapon you'd otherwise get from a random drop. Maybe when the idea of a shooter having a drop system was new and quaint it was fine, but with the way the industry's winds are blowing it just seems kinda rotten to me.

i didnt play back when the crates didnt even give you strange versions of the guns so at one point it was even worse

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

If you LP what I LP
And if you work retail like I work retail
You would also scream like I scream


stillvisions posted:

So if you're ever listening to a song you know very well from a movie and you're like "that's weird, it sounds a bit different than the one I know, wonder why?" it's probably that.



What the ffffffuck

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

"Why yes, this is a tie with dollar signs on it.

Jealous?"




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojUdUz_ueSs

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008



Augus posted:

I am not trying to ban you from playing fortnite by pointing out that the monetization scheme is questionable

To a certain extent I agree, but on the other hand if you and your mates already play a shitton of fortnite.. buying the battlepass just seems like a obvious thing to do.

Is it really wrong to target the hardcore players like this?

Augus
Mar 9, 2015

BORN TO DIE
WORLD IS A FUCK
Kill Em All 1989
I am trash man
410,757,864,530 DEAD COPS





Something I've noticed in twitch communities and youtube channels dedicated to fortnite is that "Default Skin" players are very often the subject of mockery. Playing with the default skin is associated with being bad at the game, being a little kid or being someone who can barely even handle third-person controls. And literally every skin besides the default one has a monetary value attached to it.

Archer666 posted:

To a certain extent I agree, but on the other hand if you and your mates already play a shitton of fortnite.. buying the battlepass just seems like a obvious thing to do.

Is it really wrong to target the hardcore players like this?

did you watch dan's video

Augus fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Apr 2, 2019

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012






Augus posted:

Something I've noticed in twitch communities and youtube channels dedicated to fortnite is that "Default Skin" players are very often the subject of mockery. Playing with the default skin is associated with being bad at the game, being a little kid or being someone who can barely even handle third-person controls. And literally every skin besides the default one has a monetary value attached to it.

Well yeah. It's the only way to differentiate yourself since everything else is basically random chance so how else are players supposed to act superior to other ones?

Augus
Mar 9, 2015

BORN TO DIE
WORLD IS A FUCK
Kill Em All 1989
I am trash man
410,757,864,530 DEAD COPS






I agree unironically

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me





Archer666 posted:

To a certain extent I agree, but on the other hand if you and your mates already play a shitton of fortnite.. buying the battlepass just seems like a obvious thing to do.

Is it really wrong to target the hardcore players like this?
if you're asking if it's wrong to target hardcore players by enabling them to subscribe to your service for additional benefits, then no.
i mean, yes it's wrong because capitalism is by its function predatory and oppressive, but not significantly above the regular background wrong of capitalism is my long answer.




but that's not in any way an accurate description of how they target players, hardcore or otherwise, and it's a little frightening that you can (or presumably have) watch as dan engages and displays every moving part of the lemarchand lootbox into its full configuration and yet still come out the other side saying that there are, in fact, no sights to be shown.

stillvisions
Oct 15, 2014

I really should have come up with something better before spending five bucks on this.


Leal posted:



What the ffffffuck

Here's a longer bit about the practice. Most keep it quiet; Def Leppard made it public knowledge they were doing it as a middle finger to their old label, but it's definitely a thing: https://slate.com/culture/2013/05/r...this-trend.html

Surprise surprise, newer contracts prevent bands from pulling this stunt.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."


https://twitter.com/FoldableHuman/s...932904064016385

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

D U S T M A N


the version of the Bobby Womack song Across 110th Street written for and featured in the film of the same name is wildly different from the version released on the soundtrack album so i don't know what the gently caress

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4K7g1XDwos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vACdT7rLY2U

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009




I far prefer this to the more common trend of the entire internet becoming marginally more annoying for one day a year.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

Hi, Everybody!


Skippy McPants posted:

I far prefer this to the more common trend of the entire internet becoming marginally more annoying for one day a year.

I quite liked a twitter comment I saw describing April Fools Day as the one day a year that people actually treat anything said on the internet with skepticism and doubt rather than assuming it's fact.

Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


I dread April Fool's Day because more and more people take the day to announce outrageous actual news but the joke is that it's not actually a joke. Doug Ford announced that he's changing the license plate tagline in Ontario from "Yours to Discover" to "Open for Business" which is so stupidly petty that it has to be an April Fool's joke, except no, he really is that self absorbed and petty.

watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.



Augus posted:

Something I've noticed in twitch communities and youtube channels dedicated to fortnite is that "Default Skin" players are very often the subject of mockery. Playing with the default skin is associated with being bad at the game, being a little kid or being someone who can barely even handle third-person controls. And literally every skin besides the default one has a monetary value attached to it.

This was the case in TF2 as well after it became free, people would use F2P (free to play) as a derogative against people without cosmetics and assume they were dead weight in the team. People who had the extremely rare and expensive unusual cosmetics that had an extremely low drop rate from loot boxes were seen as elites.

This meant that people were prioritized higher when it came to buffs and heals based on their cosmetics.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Uneasy lies the head that wears a crown.


Arcsquad12 posted:

I dread April Fool's Day because more and more people take the day to announce outrageous actual news but the joke is that it's not actually a joke. Doug Ford announced that he's changing the license plate tagline in Ontario from "Yours to Discover" to "Open for Business" which is so stupidly petty that it has to be an April Fool's joke, except no, he really is that self absorbed and petty.
Announcing awesome stuff and have it be true is cool and better than just jerking people around. I mean poo poo like that is obviously stupid, but announcing a long-awaited sequel or crazy crossover is something Im a big fan of.

lemonadesweetheart
May 27, 2010



Was this posted yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7f26gVlDQI

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything




Fun Shoe

https://twitter.com/thelindsayellis...4965677057?s=19

Congrats to Lindsay and Nella.

Antifa Turkeesian
Aug 20, 2006



Wowsers! I didnt know those kinds of awards went out for things like journalism. Nice work.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012






Pants Donkey posted:

Announcing awesome stuff and have it be true is cool and better than just jerking people around. I mean poo poo like that is obviously stupid, but announcing a long-awaited sequel or crazy crossover is something Im a big fan of.

Yeah, the best April Fools joke I remember was Morbi's Poppy comic having a bunch of weird facts being teased as jokes only for it to turn out that Kit is actually blind in the next page. Gotcha!

Bedshaped
Apr 1, 2010




Soiled Meat


That's both cool as hell and in my hometown

John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I have special eyes.

Just think of all the cool stuff I can see.


Augus posted:

Something I've noticed in twitch communities and youtube channels dedicated to fortnite is that "Default Skin" players are very often the subject of mockery. Playing with the default skin is associated with being bad at the game, being a little kid or being someone who can barely even handle third-person controls. And literally every skin besides the default one has a monetary value attached to it.

This isn't entirely true, thanks to Twitch freebies. Though rather noticeably they haven't done any of those in a while. They did also give away the current battle pass for free (if you completed a bunch of generally easy challenges) tho.


As for TF2, it was always on a continual downward slide with me but the exact moment it was truly dead to me was the moment they added killstreak weapons. That was the last little bit of "we give zero shits about a single one of the game's original design tenets, give us more money" after years of eroding them with various additions. Before that, it was kill counter weapons turning games into farm sessions. Sorry, your Medic doesn't feel like healing you, they gotta farm those frags with their stupid loving crossbow that's a terrible weapon but if they get it up to Hale's Own rank maybe they can sell it off for $5 on the Steam market so gently caress you. (And naturally, to me, this immediately devalued the entire concept of kill tracker weapons because it could very easily be assumed that anyone with Hale's Own gear just farmed pubbies in a 24/7 instant respawn 2fort server rather than earned them through any appreciable skill.)

Of course I had pretty much stopped playing because once the game went F2P suddenly weapon crafting recipes went from annoying but doable with anyone with a back stock of junk to requiring multiples of the previous new wave of weapons, which you would obviously have little to none of beyond maybe the ones you'd like to keep. All in a very obvious bid to push people to buy the new weapons, either from the in-game store or through the Steam market. And considering said new weapons were inevitably in dubious states of balance on top of being the new hotness, the whole thing turned into a gross FOMO P2W situation. (The FOMO being the bigger pressure, because after the initial rush and some weeks of dupes dropping you could generally get all of the new stuff for absolutely free from trading bots.)

John Murdoch fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Apr 2, 2019

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010





Dan definitely won April Fool's Day, the pivot to Fortnite to video was both funny as hell and informative!

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!



Isn't archive of our own basically fanfiction.net v2?

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

low vis




Scaramouche posted:

Isn't archive of our own basically fanfiction.net v2?

Yes. It literally came about because FF.net pressure washed all the porn off its servers in the late 00s.

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Ooh! Are we messing with Adora?



Scaramouche posted:

Isn't archive of our own basically fanfiction.net v2?

Kinda, but way better, honestly. It has a tagging system, a much better search engine, a better presentation, and part of its costs go towards protecting the fanfiction on the site.

The non-profit running it has a whole Legal section on its FAQ. http://www.transformativeworks.org/faq/

Also it has the single greatest piece of fanfiction known to mankind.

Twincityhacker
Feb 18, 2011

Yeah, I've been using Oblivion Character Overhaul.


Scaramouche posted:

Isn't archive of our own basically fanfiction.net v2?

No. While most of it's front facing is an archive, it's also dedicated to preserving fannish history, archiving old fandom websites so they don't disapear, being a non-profit so they don't need to arbirtatily scrub the site to make it "advertiser friendly" and backed by a set of laywers so we don't return to the bad old days of DMCA takedowns.

Ada
Apr 22, 2014

Practice proper gun's safety.


Is fanfiction . net's userbase aging or is there a reasonable influx of new users and outflux of the old? I'm sure there are people who have been posting on the site for ages and never left, but has there been an uptick in more adult themes as the authors have grown and never left (and presumably improved), or is it pretty much the same as it's always been as a relatively safe space to publicly explore creative writing? I have no personal interest in the site anymore but I am interested in how it's used these days.

Antifa Turkeesian
Aug 20, 2006



I want to know (I actually dont) what fanfiction people think of the prospect of the application of deep fakes technology to their hobby. Will it be seen as artless degeneracy, or just the next logical step?

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DoubleCakes
Jan 14, 2015



Fantano is CANCELED:
https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/...011803821367296

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