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Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


I don't know what you mean. There are no wolves on Fenris.

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WeedlordGoku69
Feb 11, 2015

by Cyrano4747


MonsieurChoc posted:

Qanon Anonymous just went from Ninja Fortnite to The Jewish Question on youtube in three clicks on a fresh account.

We need mroe Contrapoints and Shaun and more.

Fortwhite Nationalism

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

Hi, Everybody!


Max Wilco posted:

"Same Diva-isnous" ? Even in the field of poor attempts of converting nouns into adjectives, that's really bad.

Also, AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!



On to actual content, I though I'd share this channel I've seen popping up in my recommendations: Snipe and Wib. They seem to do mostly off-the-cuff stuff, but they also do scripted reviews (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?li...0W9XqT0gUoJpFVD)

They cover a lot of Warhammer 40K stuff. I watched their review of the Ultramarines movie, which seemed fine.It seems like there most recent series of videos on 40K covers the old codices and publication: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?li...tev-ouOz3gxgU_v

Ultramarines is a fun movie and worth watching if you get the chance.

Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


Neddy Seagoon posted:

Ultramarines is a fun movie and worth watching if you get the chance.

It's not great though. Helsreach, on the other hand...

Hbomberguy
Jul 4, 2009

[culla=big red]TufFEE did nO THINg W̡RA̸NG[/read]



the pendercast is becoming less and less of a joke thing i might do and more and more of a thing i want to do on a regular basis

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009




Imagine making a career from fleshing out the teenage sexual histories of cartoon characters.

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

Someone call the Chancellery Guard. Commander Maxil's out of uniform. AGAIN.

Hbomberguy posted:

the pendercast is becoming less and less of a joke thing i might do and more and more of a thing i want to do on a regular basis

call it "Rating Pending"

DoubleCakes
Jan 14, 2015



Hbomberguy posted:

the pendercast is becoming less and less of a joke thing i might do and more and more of a thing i want to do on a regular basis

A whole podcast on the exploits of Ken Penders? Well it wouldn't be the cringiest podcast I listen to.

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

"Why yes, this is a tie with dollar signs on it.

Jealous?"



Kenny Pendercast

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.




Hbomberguy posted:

the pendercast is becoming less and less of a joke thing i might do and more and more of a thing i want to do on a regular basis

Do eet!

I read all the Sonic and Knuckles comcis way back when, up to the stupid time travel with Knuckles daughter.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Shitposting 24/7 without regrets. my parents would be proud.


Viewtiful Jew posted:

Computer take me to world building discourse for anything besides Star Wars, Marvel or Harry Potter. I'll take anything you got.

https://twitter.com/KenPenders/stat...328007357358081

Computer wait no.

https://twitter.com/KenPenders/stat...371825016348672

COMPUTER NO!

https://twitter.com/KenPenders/stat...381123318599680

i read somewhere he had a super high fever and it hosed up his brain. Is their any truth to that? so what his deal. i know he wrote for the old archie sonic comics and went nuts over his weird knuckles mary sues.

Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Apr 9, 2019

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005



Dapper_Swindler posted:

i read somewhere he had a super fever and it hosed up his brain. Is their any truth to that?

That would explain a lot.

E: On second thought, no, he's probably just a particular brand of weird genre lit writer. There were some weirdnesses around the edges even in the comics days.

Puppy Time fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Apr 9, 2019

Junpei Hyde
Mar 15, 2013


Never believe in lies





Hbomberguy posted:

the pendercast is becoming less and less of a joke thing i might do and more and more of a thing i want to do on a regular basis

Do you need a second

stillvisions
Oct 15, 2014

I really should have come up with something better before spending five bucks on this.


DoctorWhat posted:

call it "Rating Pending"

One could honour your deep love for his work by calling it "Penderphile", but that might not go over well.

Bar Crow
Oct 10, 2012


Pender Bender

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Uneasy lies the head that wears a crown.


As a kid, I preferred the Adventures of Sonic cartoon

(why the hell were there two concurrent Sonic cartoons? Poor Jaleel White)

Solitair
Feb 18, 2014

This statement is a lie!


this ken penders talk is nice and all but where is the video essay deep dive of cerebus i've been waiting for all these years

adamcantsleep
Mar 20, 2016


Pants Donkey posted:

As a kid, I preferred the Adventures of Sonic cartoon

(why the hell were there two concurrent Sonic cartoons? Poor Jaleel White)

Same. As an 11 or 12 year old, I really saw it as fourth-wall breaking, surreal nonsense and the show seemed proud of that. Admittedly, its deliberate goofiness invited more than a few Doug Walker types to criticize it for it wasn't trying to be.

I haven't rewatched in since the 90s syndication heyday, barring Sonic Sez/Pingas memes, but--it was a silly show that hoped to marry the anarchic Nicktoons style (the R&S-style backgrounds, light gross-out humour, obsession with big ol' butts, sharp/weird character designs) with Roadrunner shorts.

I can see the suits thinking Jaleel was the ideal Sonic given that he was an extremely popular family-friendly entertainer of the time (and he might be super into Sonic IRL?), but adding a voice to the character almost never works. Shoulda gone the Roadrunner route except his "beep, beep" would be "NO GOOD!"

Edit: Speaking of online critics, I miss Cybershell. Please don't dox him (again). I just wish he'd come back and make vids about my favourite silly blue rat.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

D U S T M A N


Solitair posted:

this ken penders talk is nice and all but where is the video essay deep dive of cerebus i've been waiting for all these years

that video essay would be 17 parts and each part would be 5 hours long to get into cerebus and dave sim in any appreciable depth

DoubleCakes
Jan 14, 2015



Hot take: I like both AoStH and Sonic SatAM. I like them both for different reasons. They are two sides of the same coin. The alpha and omega. The light and dark. I've watched both of them all the way through (and I've read most of the Archie Sonic comic) so I understand media better than most people.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009



I liked them both fine as a kid, but that was way back before Sonic became... whatever it is today.

Solitair
Feb 18, 2014

This statement is a lie!


Alaois posted:

that video essay would be 17 parts and each part would be 5 hours long to get into cerebus and dave sim in any appreciable depth

i'm game for that

Gnome de plume
Sep 5, 2006

Hell.
Fucking.
Yes.


DoctorWhat posted:

call it "Rating Pending"

Pending Investigation

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!


the most important ken penders thing is this video he hid from the world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsdTPUy4sNI
it is the trailer for a movie based on a comic he did for image that managed to last one issue before cancellation, but which he had been planning for years--the main character of LOST ONES was given a central role in the sonic/image comics crossover from a few years prior to try and sell people on ken's idea, even though nobody had heard of her and her presence could only detract from what little appeal such a stupid crossover could offer. it is rumored that he used ideas from the comic for his knuckles comic since they weren't getting made, but that's not definite. regardless, in the end ken's dream was not to be, and nobody bought the thing or (shockingly) was interested in funding the lost ones movie either, despite the stunning teaser trailer. i'm sure the finished product will be along any day now, though

corn in the bible fucked around with this message at 07:20 on Apr 9, 2019

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

low vis




DoubleCakes posted:

Hot take: I like both AoStH and Sonic SatAM. I like them both for different reasons. They are two sides of the same coin. The alpha and omega. The light and dark.

Same. I understood that each was wildly different from the other and appreciated them both for what they brought to the table. When I was a kid AoStH was on on a daily basis at like 3:30 in the afternoon so it always on right after school when I got home. SatAM, conversely, came on at like 7:00 in the morning on Saturdays, and even as a kid I was the kind of person who loved to stay up late on Friday nights and sleep in on Saturday mornings. Plus it was frequently pre-empted by other programs because ABC didnt give a poo poo about it so those times I actually got to see it live were rare gifts.

I went back and watched all the big important episodes online later on and, ya know, it still holds up rather well. Adventures Of, meanwhile gets a little cringey more often than not from what Ive been able to stomach rewatching.

That said, I do appreciate the irony that Jaleel White for a very brief stretch of the 90s was playing both the coolest and uncool east characters on television at the same time. I think 10 year old mes brain would have melted if you told me that Sonic the Hedgehog and Steve Urkel were the same person...

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me





I want to watch that movie. I want to inject it into my eyeballs.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004




Kim Justice posted:

Oh jeez, Ken Penders...Real good talk in this page

I don't have a lot to add to anything here really but I did release a video on something fairly obscure that people seem to be digging, so:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGMxh5lUMTA

That was a good vid, I haven't played the original in years but always remember enjoying it. That stick figure at the start of your videos is it from a game or did you create it yourself?

Still you can get into trouble from time to time.

Hungry
Jul 14, 2006



Puppy Time posted:

I fukken loved Ken Penders's Sonic stuff as a kid so this is like watching my childhood shrivel into a disgusting moldy husk.

Edit:


It wasn't 1984 or especially clever, just different and dark for the time, when there weren't a whole lot of kids properties willing to get into darker (for kids) territory.

The premise was that Robotnik had taken over most of the world with his mechanical horror pollution robots, and captured the conquered population and turned them into robots with Science, overwriting their minds and personalities to become slaves, except there was a vestige of the original mind in there, so the people were kind of aware in some way of what happened to them.

And the main characters were a bunch of kids who'd escaped the takeover and were fighting Robotnik guerilla style, while occasionally encountering former loved ones who were now evil robots.

If you were ten and your alternatives were mostly Looney Tunes and Disney stuff, it was pretty awesome. Nowadays, there's more options, so it's not as clear how refreshing it was. (Kind of like how, post-Dark Age, Watchmen isn't as transcendent. Not that the two are especially comparable beyond relative darkness against their contemporaries.)

You are talking about the British Sonic comicbook, just called 'Sonic the Comic', or StC for short. It did get pretty 1984 once it established itself, going heavy into police state stuff. Not all the population were turned into robots, the threat of such being used to control dissidents and as punishment.

To my 11 year old mind this was incredible.

The Bee
Nov 25, 2012

Making his way to the ring . . .
from Deep in the Jungle . . .

The Big Monkey!


Pants Donkey posted:

As a kid, I preferred the Adventures of Sonic cartoon

(why the hell were there two concurrent Sonic cartoons? Poor Jaleel White)

Three. There were three.

Takoluka
Jun 26, 2009

Don't look at me!




When you think about it, Robotnik was pretty hosed up in that he managed to weaponize Sonic's own uncle against him. Like, the concept of turning your loved ones against you like that blew my mind as a child.

Beast Machines did the same thing, since Megatron took a fan favorite character in Silverbolt, had him brainwashed and put into a new unrelated robot, and then sent then to defeat his own former friends who knew it was him and had to struggle with whether or not they could fight him.

That's dark stuff.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.




Alaois posted:

that video essay would be 17 parts and each part would be 5 hours long to get into cerebus and dave sim in any appreciable depth

I maintain that the early comics before Sims went crazy still holds up.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015

BORN TO DIE
WORLD IS A FUCK
Kill Em All 1989
I am trash man
410,757,864,530 DEAD COPS





I think a lot of the blame for the weirder elements of Sonic fandom can be blamed squarely on Ken Penders, hes the one that really dialed the melodrama and shipping up to 11. Not to mention being the purest incarnation of original character do not steal with his army of X the Echidnas, all of which he inexplicably now has total legal ownership of because Archie royally hosed up their record-keeping.

I love the story of how Sega, while re-evaluating their handling of the Sonic brand after the release of 06, checked in on what was going on with those American comic books and saw this:

And went what the gently caress.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS


Takoluka posted:

When you think about it, Robotnik was pretty hosed up in that he managed to weaponize Sonic's own uncle against him. Like, the concept of turning your loved ones against you like that blew my mind as a child.

Beast Machines did the same thing, since Megatron took a fan favorite character in Silverbolt, had him brainwashed and put into a new unrelated robot, and then sent then to defeat his own former friends who knew it was him and had to struggle with whether or not they could fight him.

That's dark stuff.

I liked that they spent a while making you think he was a different unrelated robot, but then that one turned out to be Waspinator, who didn't remotely mind being used to power a robot that was cooler than him.

Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


Shame about what Beast Machines did to Rhinox. It's impressive how they managed to assassinate the character of somebody so bland.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

Hi, Everybody!


Takoluka posted:

When you think about it, Robotnik was pretty hosed up in that he managed to weaponize Sonic's own uncle against him. Like, the concept of turning your loved ones against you like that blew my mind as a child.

Beast Machines did the same thing, since Megatron took a fan favorite character in Silverbolt, had him brainwashed and put into a new unrelated robot, and then sent then to defeat his own former friends who knew it was him and had to struggle with whether or not they could fight him.

That's dark stuff.

Arcsquad12 posted:

Shame about what Beast Machines did to Rhinox. It's impressive how they managed to assassinate the character of somebody so bland.

Beat Machines was done by an entirely different team who were very specifically told not to watch Beast Wars first iirc.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.




Augus posted:

I think a lot of the blame for the weirder elements of Sonic fandom can be blamed squarely on Ken Penders, hes the one that really dialed the melodrama and shipping up to 11. Not to mention being the purest incarnation of original character do not steal with his army of X the Echidnas, all of which he inexplicably now has total legal ownership of because Archie royally hosed up their record-keeping.

I love the story of how Sega, while re-evaluating their handling of the Sonic brand after the release of 06, checked in on what was going on with those American comic books and saw this:

And went what the gently caress.

There was this huge Echidna family tree with names like Steppenwolf and Moonwatcher.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Shitposting 24/7 without regrets. my parents would be proud.


Takoluka posted:

When you think about it, Robotnik was pretty hosed up in that he managed to weaponize Sonic's own uncle against him. Like, the concept of turning your loved ones against you like that blew my mind as a child.

Beast Machines did the same thing, since Megatron took a fan favorite character in Silverbolt, had him brainwashed and put into a new unrelated robot, and then sent then to defeat his own former friends who knew it was him and had to struggle with whether or not they could fight him.

That's dark stuff.

i remember sonic underground was weirdly dark, and then it ends with robotnik getting 9/11 by a drone.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005



Augus posted:

I think a lot of the blame for the weirder elements of Sonic fandom can be blamed squarely on Ken Penders, hes the one that really dialed the melodrama and shipping up to 11. Not to mention being the purest incarnation of original character do not steal with his army of X the Echidnas, all of which he inexplicably now has total legal ownership of because Archie royally hosed up their record-keeping.

I love the story of how Sega, while re-evaluating their handling of the Sonic brand after the release of 06, checked in on what was going on with those American comic books and saw this:

And went what the gently caress.

Sega also abruptly gave a bunch of character notes (after years of nothing at all) around the time of Sonic Adventure- suddenly, everything had to include game canon, and there were rules that basically said "Yeah, Sonic isn't allowed to have emotions or relationships beyond being Too Cool for School." This was not popular with the fanbase who were here for a soap opera about guerilla war furries.

I stopped following around that time, so I'm not sure how the quality was after that, or how the writing seems to have drifted back to its old ways, though I understand it's improved in recent years.

AFashionableHat
Feb 26, 2017



poparena posted:

New Nick Knacks for ya' on Mr. Wizard's World, an 80s revival of a 50s childrens science show that inspired both Bill Nye and Beakman's World.

I'm really digging your stuff, but one bit of feedback: I'm not sure that big, long quotes (like at 10:30) work generally in the video-essay format. If you're going to do it, I'm confused as to why the entire thing--two really dense paragraphs--has to be on-screen all at once. You have it on-screen for nearly a full minute, and that feels like a really long time. If I have the video up on my side monitor I'll be looking to read the quote and then have to go fumble with skipping forward, but if I don't have it up I'm going to listen to a very long citation that, to me, is interesting but is also really long-winded and interruptive.

I would suggest editing your quotes down somewhat to hone in on the point you're trying to make and presenting them more in-line with your own work, rather than dropping them in as these big interruptions.

AFashionableHat fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Apr 9, 2019

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CYBEReris
Dec 15, 2007



Dapper_Swindler posted:

i remember sonic underground was weirdly dark, and then it ends with robotnik getting 9/11 by a drone.

i'm eternally thankful that my only exposure to sonic underground is baby.gif out of context

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