Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?


FoldableHuman posted:

I mean, the same argument Splimby is applying to CAD could just as well be applied to RPO: that Ernest Cline's unskilled sincerity accidentally created an absurdly accurate portrait of the material obsessed nerd's obliviousness to the wider world and resistance to learning anything of substance preferring instead to catalogue superficial trivia and rote memorization. Cline even managed a heaping dose of that specific flavour of nerd misogyny where they think that objectifying pretty girls who aren't Hollywood pretty basically makes them bell hooks.

So, yeah, I think the thesis "often poorly made things are accidentally more honest and revealing because the authors lack the skill to hide themselves" would apply to Ready Player One.

I was absolutely staggered by the reveal of Art3mis's real self somehow being presented as "oh don't worry, you're pretty to me", like she's some hideous troll monster.

Oh, and then the unsolicited hands all over the face. No. No no no no no.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

SgtSteel91
Oct 21, 2010



In Defense of Star Wars: The Last Jedi with Mikey

SgtSteel91 fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Apr 27, 2018

StealthArcher
Jan 10, 2010






I'm kinda looking forward moreso than anything to do with the prequels (which the messages and underlying things it says can be entirely gained by the 1 genuine good one, RoTS, as opposed to the first two which while showing the same systemic flaws in the universe people moaned about are also just utterly miserable to watch.), is the one way I kind of noticed you could take this and apply it to the Snyder Superman films.


Namely, all cape flicks are just about elitism and authoritarianism when you really strip it away, and there's nothing about Snyder's works that can hide that. Hell, he practically guns for it.

E: Good one is subjective, but I honestly liked Sith for all it's flaws. I'm not gonna claim that it's a cinematic masterpiece here, just that in addition to showing the problems the SW universe can't hide in the Prequels, it's also enjoyable. McDiarmid is goddamned good.

StealthArcher fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Apr 27, 2018

Antifa Turkeesian
Aug 20, 2006



ricdesi posted:

I was absolutely staggered by the reveal of Art3mis's real self somehow being presented as "oh don't worry, you're pretty to me", like she's some hideous troll monster.

Oh, and then the unsolicited hands all over the face. No. No no no no no.

That poem Cline wrote about the kind of porn he wants to masturbate to is amazing both for its incredible misogyny and its total smug cluelessness about how disgusting it is. Like the other post says, he genuinely thinks heís being a real humanitarian by talking about how he wants to gently caress women dressed like Velma from Scooby Dooólike he expects them to be grateful.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




cline is the poor manís whedon.

ricdesi
Mar 18, 2014

Does it really need saying?


business hammocks posted:

That poem Cline wrote about the kind of porn he wants to masturbate to is amazing both for its incredible misogyny and its total smug cluelessness about how disgusting it is. Like the other post says, he genuinely thinks heís being a real humanitarian by talking about how he wants to gently caress women dressed like Velma from Scooby Dooólike he expects them to be grateful.

This is also, of course, ignoring that our lead this is presented through looks like Ken Marino and Miles Teller made a weird hybrid shovel baby.

(He's not an ugly fella, but his likeness to both of them was weirdly distracting.)

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.




People remain super weird about the prequels after almost 20 years.

They're perfectly fine movies that suffer from being prequels to one of the most beloved trilogy of all time. They're fine. Not great because they have quite a few flaw,s but none of these flaws are big or terrible enough to make them bad movies. But because of the hype and the love for the originals and weird nerd hyperbole culture they're suddenly the worst things ever and peopel go crazy at anyone saying "they're not that bad".

There's a lot of material in trying to figure out why people are so weird about the prequels.

Antifa Turkeesian
Aug 20, 2006



ricdesi posted:

This is also, of course, ignoring that our lead this is presented through looks like Ken Marino and Miles Teller made a weird hybrid shovel baby.

(He's not an ugly fella, but his likeness to both of them was weirdly distracting.)

I read somewhere (here?) that he met his wife the night he performed either that one or the one about religion being dumb and human beings being absurd monkeys.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013



They're not very good and kind of boring and really ugly. I just re-watched them before TLJ came out. There's good stuff peppered in, but overall they're not pleasant films to watch. Except when Palpatine is on screen.

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009




Can't wait to see his defense of RP1.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!


MonsieurChoc posted:

People remain super weird about the prequels after almost 20 years.

They're perfectly fine movies that suffer from being prequels to one of the most beloved trilogy of all time. They're fine. Not great because they have quite a few flaw,s but none of these flaws are big or terrible enough to make them bad movies. But because of the hype and the love for the originals and weird nerd hyperbole culture they're suddenly the worst things ever and peopel go crazy at anyone saying "they're not that bad".

There's a lot of material in trying to figure out why people are so weird about the prequels.

I saw them before I saw the original Star Wars, so I was not touched by any kind of nostalgia. I found them dull and unengaging, so they fail on that count. If you want to argue that they make claims about politics or society that's separate, but as entertainment they are a complete failure.

Antifa Turkeesian
Aug 20, 2006



Thereís a discussion that never made its way here about how Lucas wanted Star Wars to be Vietnam from the point of view of the viet cong, and that for a long time he thought it would be subversive. Like he thought seeing a bunch of white Americans as underdogs against a technologically superior foreign empire would make Americans think of how America was the bad guy in Vietnam. This is supposedly well documented.

George Lucas has interesting ideas but canít communicate them for poo poo, is what Iím saying.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

If you LP what I LP
And if you work retail like I work retail
You would also scream like I scream


business hammocks posted:

George Lucas has interesting ideas but canít communicate them for poo poo, is what Iím saying.

He just lacks the technology to do it

e X
Feb 23, 2013

cool but crude



I get what he is saying, but he completely ignores the quality of the execution in his argumentation.

dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013



finally got around to watching lindsay ellis's hobbit videos - I hadn't watched any of her stuff before, but as someone who was originally very excited for the hobbit films it was fascinating to see a breakdown of how everything... broke down.

It also bummed me out because I still get chills from the scene where the dwarves sing The Misty Mountains Cold, and it makes me wistful for what could have been.

khwarezm
Oct 26, 2010

Deal with it.

business hammocks posted:

Thereís a discussion that never made its way here about how Lucas wanted Star Wars to be Vietnam from the point of view of the viet cong, and that for a long time he thought it would be subversive. Like he thought seeing a bunch of white Americans as underdogs against a technologically superior foreign empire would make Americans think of how America was the bad guy in Vietnam. This is supposedly well documented.

George Lucas has interesting ideas but canít communicate them for poo poo, is what Iím saying.

I'm going to be a philistine here for a moment (re: my entire posting career), I don't think Lucas's vision stated here ends up amounting to anything since Star Wars as a real product and cultural phenomenon has no subversiveness to it all. That is to say that it's place as the ultimate embodiment of capitalist entertainment thoroughly annihilates anything subversive or underdog that Lucas might have intended since it was turned around from the start and became completely part of the establishment rather than undermining it.

khwarezm fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Apr 27, 2018

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006


Rots is boring as poo poo. It goes from people chatting in a landing pad to people chatting in an office to people chatting in a conference room, so dull

Antifa Turkeesian
Aug 20, 2006



khwarezm posted:

I'm going to be a philistine here for a moment (re: my entire posting career), I don't think Lucas's vision stated here ends up amounting to anything since Star Wars as a real product and cultural phenomenon has no subversiveness to it all. That is to say that it's place as the ultimate embodiment of capitalist entertainment thoroughly annihilates anything subversive or underdog that Lucas might have intended since it was turned around from the start and became completely part of the establishment rather than undermining it.

Thatís correct. His ambitions (if they were real) ended up making the opposite of what he thought he was doing. White Americans as noble, justified underdogs is literally the way Americans see themselves every minute of every day, including during Vietnam. People criticized Star Wars on its release for having reactionary politics (it did) or for constituting a childish retreat into escapist fantasy (it was).

Lucas may have legitimately had left politics or still does (he hosed over his neighbors to build low-income housing and adopted kids rather than making them with his wife), but he is not competent enough to realize them on film. Another good example might be Red Tails, which he genuinely thought was a blow against hollywood racism.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.




corn in the bible posted:

I saw them before I saw the original Star Wars, so I was not touched by any kind of nostalgia. I found them dull and unengaging, so they fail on that count. If you want to argue that they make claims about politics or society that's separate, but as entertainment they are a complete failure.


Calaveron posted:

Rots is boring as poo poo. It goes from people chatting in a landing pad to people chatting in an office to people chatting in a conference room, so dull

Stop being a weird about 20-year old space fantasy movies.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




"the boring movie was boring."

whoa calm down freak.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013



Saying you didn't like a movie because it didn't engage you is the least weirdest thing in the world to say.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016



Even weirder are the people obsessed with defending the honor of George Lucas and the prequels.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014




you wanna impress? make a video essay defending the garbage pail kids movie.

Alacron
Feb 15, 2007

-->Have tearful reunion with your son
-->Eh

Fun Shoe

Shut up about Star Wars and watch the new Mandalore video.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015

BORN TO DIE
WORLD IS A FUCK
Kill Em All 1989
I am trash man
410,757,864,530 DEAD COPS





Calaveron posted:

Rots is boring as poo poo. It goes from people chatting in a landing pad to people chatting in an office to people chatting in a conference room, so dull

the scene with them chatting in a crazy neon opera house was pretty cool tho, in all honesty

dmboogie posted:

finally got around to watching lindsay ellis's hobbit videos - I hadn't watched any of her stuff before, but as someone who was originally very excited for the hobbit films it was fascinating to see a breakdown of how everything... broke down.

It also bummed me out because I still get chills from the scene where the dwarves sing The Misty Mountains Cold, and it makes me wistful for what could have been.

The first act of An Unexpected Journey showed a ton of promise and heart and then it was just downhill from there.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014





the song at the end of limbo of the lost is Art.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URcvdDtnM_0

Corek
May 11, 2013

by R. Guyovich


There was a much worse Jack Thompson CAD comic than the rant one, a really bad one with him getting molested by a Pong machine as a child. (So now he hates video games).

This no longer seems to be on the CAD website, but it existed.

Corek fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Apr 28, 2018

Willo567
Feb 5, 2015




Is there anywhere I can watch the Cinema Snob's older videos? Everything he had on Vidme is gone, and there doesn't really seem to be any backups available (at least from what I've seen)

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007




I'm sure this is a decent idea

Also, new Slope!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddddkfV7JFo

New Norm!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfZTK2XStME

More laughing at Bully Hunters!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyIftAPf7kM

Lots of goodness.

DoubleCakes
Jan 14, 2015



Super Butter Buns has a new video on the high-octane combat racing Jak spinoff: Jak X: Combat Racing, and it's really good.

Linear Zoetrope
Nov 28, 2011

A hero must cook

Big Joel has an incredibly good video on The Red Pill

Motto
Aug 3, 2013



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl6mG3U4vaY

Superbunnyhop on Eidos' "Project W" and SE's general mismanagement of its western acquisitions.

rudecyrus
Nov 6, 2009

fuck you trolls



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkW4xgX3zIo

Good Bad or Bad Bad looks at the infamous 1979 adaptation of Captain America.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.





Unrelated, but anyone remembers Crash Team Racing?

Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


I remember not liking it very much. But it did have that one level where you flew airplanes and that I did like.

Max Wilco
Jan 22, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

MonsieurChoc posted:

Unrelated, but anyone remembers Crash Team Racing?

I do.

Best kart racing game ever. Don't @ me.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

I'm the babyliberal, gotta love me!


Max Wilco posted:

I do.

Best kart racing game ever. Don't @ me.

There's no @ing in Somethingawful.

Max Wilco
Jan 22, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Absurd Alhazred posted:

There's no @ing in Somethingawful.

Oh, that's right.

My point still stands, though. CTR is the best kart racing game.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

D U S T M A N


Max Wilco posted:

Oh, that's right.

My point still stands, though. CTR is the best kart racing game.

can I @ you to agree

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013



you and Strucci did a dope job editing that thing, hbomb. Also super well shot.
That was dope as hell and Iím glad it wasnít about sonic 2.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply