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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

escape artist posted:

Everybody drop a controversial horror opinion that you don't always share for fear of being judged. Let's turn this into a safe space.

Testing the waters with a light one before a drop a more heavy one. I could not finish Kathe Koje's The Cipher. It was nightmarishly bad.

I like horror novels better than short stories.

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Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump

escape artist posted:

Everybody drop a controversial horror opinion that you don't always share for fear of being judged. Let's turn this into a safe space.

Testing the waters with a light one before a drop a more heavy one. I could not finish Kathe Koje's The Cipher. It was nightmarishly bad.

They should at least try to describe the cosmic horrors

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Well, he has a squid face and wings. I guess it wasn't that indescribable after all.

value-brand cereal
May 2, 2008
I am bizarrely obsessed with the ethnicity of authors. I mean for real I'm about to start doing phrenology on Paulo Coelho.
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value-brand cereal fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Mar 26, 2025

Fallom
Sep 6, 2008

_9MOTHER9HORSE9EYES9 was the best piece of horror to come out of reddit and even that isn't worth reading past the halfway point

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
I don't give a poo poo about character psychology, writing quality or even if it's tense or scary at all - just in it for the monsters. If there isn't a monster, I lose interest.

Dark Matter was a bust for me.

Wachter
Mar 23, 2007

You and whose knees?

Good Citizen posted:

They should at least try to describe the cosmic horrors

Oh man, the cosmic horror I just saw? Indescribable. The least describable thing you can think of and then some. I could spend all day trying to describe it but it would be a waste of time. In fact even calling it "cosmic" is too descriptive.

value-brand cereal
May 2, 2008
I am bizarrely obsessed with the ethnicity of authors. I mean for real I'm about to start doing phrenology on Paulo Coelho.
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value-brand cereal fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Mar 26, 2025

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer

Tiny Timbs posted:

_9MOTHER9HORSE9EYES9 was the best piece of horror to come out of reddit and even that isn't worth reading past the halfway point

I remember that being real good. I don't recall it ever getting bad, but it's been a while and I was reading the updates live as they were found. It was never compiled anywhere and the author vanished after a while, right?

Slyphic
Oct 12, 2021

All we do is walk around believing birds!
If we're doing hot takes: All the best horror I've read has also been science fiction, often explicitly.

Fallom
Sep 6, 2008

LifeLynx posted:

I remember that being real good. I don't recall it ever getting bad, but it's been a while and I was reading the updates live as they were found. It was never compiled anywhere and the author vanished after a while, right?

I read it as an ebook that was made with this thing I think: https://github.com/cryzed/The-Interface-Series-e-book

escape artist
Sep 24, 2005

Slow train coming
Lukewarm take: Paul Tremblay's short story collections were awful

Not only has this gotten a lot of good replies, I feel like we're all healing as a group

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

escape artist posted:

Lukewarm take: Paul Tremblay's short story collections were awful

Not only has this gotten a lot of good replies, I feel like we're all healing as a group

I'm like three stories into Growing Things and I couldn't care less about it, which I guess shouldn't be a surprise since I don't think I'm ever gonna finish A Head Full of Ghosts either. I keep trying because a lot of people seem to like Tremblay, but goddamn I can't get into his poo poo at all.

Fallom
Sep 6, 2008

Controversial horror opinion: Boy’s Life is a good set of vignettes with an embarrassingly bad plot/framing narrative that drags the whole thing down

caspergers
Oct 1, 2021

zoux posted:

I like horror novels better than short stories.

I agree because what makes horror enjoyable for me is atmosphere and tension, neither of which a short story has enough space to establish. Short stories are good for horror premises/concepts but not plot imo. I tend to avoid story collections from horror authors because I'm apprehensive that it'll just be one interesting premise after another. Same with Lovecraft, I can't actually the Call of Cthulhu a story because it isn't one. It's a fictional essay.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Getting vaguely back on topic: I just finished The House That Horror Built by Christina Henry. It reminded me of Richard Laymon but without the dubious sex. Had some good mood building, and it was interesting to read a book set just after the pandemic lockdown, but it flubbed the landing. I don't know if I'd read any of her other books.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Wachter posted:

Oh man, the cosmic horror I just saw? Indescribable. The least describable thing you can think of and then some. I could spend all day trying to describe it but it would be a waste of time. In fact even calling it "cosmic" is too descriptive.

How euclidian was the geometry

caspergers
Oct 1, 2021

caspergers posted:

Listening to another book by Bird Box author called Incidents Around the House.

I just finished and I hate it. What is the deal with horror books not having endings? I'm tired of the whole absurdism angle as a lovely excuse for poor writing. Night Film by Marisha Pessl was a frustrating ending but I guess it kind of had a point? This one kinda established what the metaphor of the story is about 80% in which is fine but then now that we know what's happening there's no reason to resolve it. Let's just have everyone die instead of learning anything. I get that evil can't be killed, but this whole "the ending is pointless because life is pointless!

Did anyone else read Incidents Around the House? If so I'd like to hear your thoughts. At least someone who's better at rationalizing things

Wachter
Mar 23, 2007

You and whose knees?

zoux posted:

How euclidian was the geometry

So many angles. Like, leave some for the rest of the entities, man

Fallom
Sep 6, 2008

caspergers posted:

I agree because what makes horror enjoyable for me is atmosphere and tension, neither of which a short story has enough space to establish. Short stories are good for horror premises/concepts but not plot imo. I tend to avoid story collections from horror authors because I'm apprehensive that it'll just be one interesting premise after another. Same with Lovecraft, I can't actually the Call of Cthulhu a story because it isn't one. It's a fictional essay.

I think one thing I liked a lot about Ballingrud’s collections is that each story felt like a complete thought. He doesn’t seem to fall into this trap as much (that fallen angels story maybe qualifies).

value-brand cereal
May 2, 2008
I am bizarrely obsessed with the ethnicity of authors. I mean for real I'm about to start doing phrenology on Paulo Coelho.
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value-brand cereal fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Mar 26, 2025

caspergers
Oct 1, 2021

Tiny Timbs posted:

I think one thing I liked a lot about Ballingrud’s collections is that each story felt like a complete thought. He doesn’t seem to fall into this trap as much (that fallen angels story maybe qualifies).

Aight I'll check eem out (literally)

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Tiny Timbs posted:

Controversial horror opinion: Boy’s Life is a good set of vignettes with an embarrassingly bad plot/framing narrative that drags the whole thing down
To be fair I think that's basically every McCammon.

ScreenDoorThrillr
Jun 23, 2023

(sings in latex)

anilEhilated posted:

I don't give a poo poo about character psychology, writing quality or even if it's tense or scary at all - just in it for the monsters. If there isn't a monster, I lose interest.

Dark Matter was a bust for me.

I've met writers who use subtext - they're all cowards

caspergers
Oct 1, 2021

anilEhilated posted:

I don't give a poo poo about character psychology, writing quality or even if it's tense or scary at all - just in it for the monsters. If there isn't a monster, I lose interest.

Dark Matter was a bust for me.

ahahaha you and I are totally opposite people but I have a tremendous amount of respect for you

Randal
Apr 20, 2016

escape artist posted:

Everybody drop a controversial horror opinion that you don't always share for fear of being judged. Let's turn this into a safe space.

Testing the waters with a light one before a drop a more heavy one. I could not finish Kathe Koje's The Cipher. It was nightmarishly bad.

North American Lake Monsters was disappointing and some of those stories should have been more developed

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

anilEhilated posted:

To be fair I think that's basically every McCammon.

I wanted some gritty, grimy 1970s style horror so I read some of his early work, namely Baal and They Thirst and they are just nasty, violent, misanthropic works. Especially Baal. I read Swan Song probably 20 years ago and my memories of that is that the actual apocalypse going down was cool, but the post-apoc stuff dragged, and I thought the resolution was too pat.

Fallom
Sep 6, 2008

zoux posted:

I read Swan Song probably 20 years ago and my memories of that is that the actual apocalypse going down was cool, but the post-apoc stuff dragged, and I thought the resolution was too pat.

The face transformation thing was absurdly silly

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Tiny Timbs posted:

The face transformation thing was absurdly silly

One of the few details I can clearly recall, and agreed.

escape artist
Sep 24, 2005

Slow train coming

Randal posted:

North American Lake Monsters was disappointing and some of those stories should have been more developed
Sigh.


*grabs torch, pitchfork*

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
*thinks harder than I have ever thought in my entire life & writes*

I have unlocked the key the the door of ultimate terror, harden your heart Hornsby, we ride

Steel yourselves before i open the gate to the domicile of fear itself, the very origin of all nightmares

Murdered? One of our party? There surely must be some logical, extremely bigoted explanation.

Now Hornsby your airy suppositions will be proved farcical. Catholics? Capable of deduction? Preposterous.

Upending these iron bars will surely lead us into the realm of the dammed, but it must be done against all protestations

Aaaargh drat you Hornsby I'm being devoured to death by an obvious metaphor for being a self absorbed prick bastard curse you forever

Also now you can marry my totally hot sister who is for sure not editing this, run. But thank you for sort of trying to save me -- fin --

"Wow did anyone else read that old book 'Doom House on Perdition Lane?' So scary, super good!"

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Mad dog!
Oven Wrangler

Tiny Timbs posted:

Controversial horror opinion: Boy’s Life is a good set of vignettes with an embarrassingly bad plot/framing narrative that drags the whole thing down

That incredibly stupid plot point, where it turns out that The murdered man's restless ghost wasn't saying "I want you down in the daaaaark!", it just so happened that the killer's surname was Dehninaderke, which sounds very similar!! Jesus wept.

MNIMWA
Dec 1, 2014

hmm I was correct not to continue with that one, I think

Reading You Like it Darker - first three stories are meh but I just finished Danny Coughlin's Bad Dream. Very solid, classic King that reminded me of Bag of Bones for some reason.

Wachter
Mar 23, 2007

You and whose knees?

I just finished The Imago Sequence. It was great fun. Barron can only write his One Guy but that's mitigated by his icky prose, and the pulpy plots take the edge off the relentless grimdark. I couldn't help but laugh at the realisation that, when you combine the physical nature of the Old One around which the stories revolve with the fact that almost all his protags are alcoholics, it's essentially a collection of stories about guys getting hammered and falling down holes

monochromagic
Jun 17, 2023

Just finished Private Rites by Julia Armfield. Not as good as Our Wives Under the Sea, but still terrific. Recommended if you enjoy books about the end times.

Would love to read some more water/ocean related horror if anyone has recommendations.

szary
Mar 12, 2014

monochromagic posted:

Would love to read some more water/ocean related horror if anyone has recommendations.

"The Deep" by Nick Cutter seems extremely divisive, but I liked it
"From Below" by Darcy Coates was okay, good buildup and not-so-good payoff

caspergers
Oct 1, 2021

szary posted:

"The Deep" by Nick Cutter seems extremely divisive, but I liked it
"From Below" by Darcy Coates was okay, good buildup and not-so-good payoff

I would like to read some Darcy Coates, and forgive me for being so superficial, but those covers are awful and trick me into thinking they'll be bad

ravenkult
Feb 3, 2011


Who hates on Boy's Life for god's sake???

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!



I won a prize in my library's summer reading challenge and this year they had something good on offer

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value-brand cereal
May 2, 2008
I am bizarrely obsessed with the ethnicity of authors. I mean for real I'm about to start doing phrenology on Paulo Coelho.
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value-brand cereal fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Mar 26, 2025

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