Soricidus posted:

the exception to this rule is if you pick c++, because then the language and the problem are the same thing

ratbert90 posted:

Except C++ is cool and good.

ratbert90 posted:

Except C++ is cool and good.

Soricidus posted:

I didn’t say it wasn’t. just that people seem to approach c++ as a problem to solve (it’s not enough just to make it do thing, you have to make it do thing as elegantly as possible, and preferably at compile time)

Illusive gently caress Man posted:

because my brain is broken and I enjoy writing c++ for regular everyday tasks

Illusive gently caress Man posted:

because my brain is broken and I enjoy writing c++ for regular everyday tasks

Cold on a Cob posted:

i mean unless you're doing hobby projects in PL/SQL in which case

what the gently caress

the talent deficit posted:

i wrote a rest api in 100% postgres for funsies

animist posted:

hackbunny posted:

if anyone thinks I've been insulting them, their work or their tools, they should stop being insecure little fucklets and maybe try to learn something from my posts, starting from the idea that if your job requires programming you should get better at programming

hackbunny posted:

if anyone thinks I've been insulting them, their work or their tools, they should stop being insecure little fucklets and maybe try to learn something from my posts, starting from the idea that if your job requires programming you should get better at programming

DELETE CASCADE posted:

nobody thinks you're insulting them or their tools, your posts are very interesting, and i almost always learn something from them. i think people are confusing your obviously superior technical knowledge on topics such as the windows api and c++ with recommendations to learn those specific technologies, which i would not wish on my worst enemy

akadajet posted:

lol stop stroking his ego so much

hackbunny posted:

if anyone thinks I've been insulting them, their work or their tools, they should stop being insecure little fucklets and maybe try to learn something from my posts, starting from the idea that if your job requires programming you should get better at programming

hackbunny posted:

if anyone thinks I've been insulting them, their work or their tools, they should stop being insecure little fucklets and maybe try to learn something from my posts, starting from the idea that if your job requires programming you should get better at programming

Beamed posted:

let's steer this topic of conversation towards something more wholesome

Boy if there's one thing I love it's random drops of win32 API trivia

huizinga posted:

Play is free, is in fact freedom.
Play is not "ordinary" or "real" life.
Play is distinct from "ordinary" life both as to locality and duration.
Play creates order, is order. Play demands order absolute and supreme.
Play is connected with no material interest, and no profit can be gained from it

bob dobbs is dead posted:

johan huizinga was the foremost scholar of play in the 20th century. it is difficult to define play but huizinga attempted 5 characteristics:


programming satisfies remarkably and perfectly all except the first and the fifth

Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:

if not doing crazy template stuff is an option then why not use java or c and not have to deal with like copy constructors and member function pointers and somebody's lovely destructor throwing exceptions

Krankenstyle posted:

code:

\def\zzz@subdb@new@store@date#1#2{%
  \begingroup\edef\x{\endgroup\noexpand\pfgset{%
    /zzz/database/#1/#2/.code={%
      \noexpand\zzzParseDate{#1/#2}{\unexpanded{##1}}%
    }}}%
  \x%
}

fuckin expansion madness

Krankenstyle posted:

code:

\def\zzz@subdb@new@store@date#1#2{%
  \begingroup\edef\x{\endgroup\noexpand\pfgset{%
    /zzz/database/#1/#2/.code={%
      \noexpand\zzzParseDate{#1/#2}{\unexpanded{##1}}%
    }}}%
  \x%
}

fuckin expansion madness

gonadic io posted:

rust's proc_macro trip report: actually pretty good. they let you operate on streams of tokens like

code:

[
	Ident("foo"),
	Group(Brace, [
		Ident("bar"),
		Group(Paren, []),
		Punct(';'),
	]),
]

would be the code "foo{bar();}", then you transform that into whatever you want which then gets parsed by the compiler as normal.

i used it to kinda give rust named arguments:

code:

#[named_args]
fn foo(a: i32, b: u32) {
    println!("a: {}", a);
    println!("b: {}", b);
}

pub fn main() {
    foo(Args{a: -3, b: 4}); // you could remove the struct construction here with more macros
}

code is here but please don't judge me i should have slept hours ago and i hard-coded a bunch of poo poo instead of actually dealing with the complexity of real syntax

Soricidus posted:

there are basically two worthwhile options if you’re programming in your free time:

- play with fun languages
- play with fun problems

trying to do both at once is a recipe for never finishing a project so if you’re doing the second one then you’re best off choosing a language that you know well. no reason not to choose java if that fits the bill. it’s a good enough language, if a rather dull one, with a great ecosystem.

feedmegin posted:

What if ur problem is wanting to design a fun language