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HoboMan: Nov 4, 2010

"i sure hate having to map values... i know! ill just use a fragile method that requires three times as much value mapping to avoid it!"

# ? May 9, 2019 18:07

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Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

akadajet posted:

I kind of want to try Azure Devops and see if it's any better than the bamboo/octopus setup we use at work right now

I was looking at the pricing and it seems for just the source control and build stuff (no vs licenses) its cheaper than the vm hosting costs for our current stuff.

# ? May 9, 2019 18:49

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

refactoring static god classes into things that can be dependency injected, then refactoring to DI them

feels kinda masturbatory tbh

# ? May 9, 2019 21:45

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

theres just so many static god classes though. gently caress.

# ? May 9, 2019 21:56

NihilCredo: Jun 6, 2011; iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

what do you guys call a class that has no state and no constructor arguments, just a bundle of pure functions that exists only because your language has poor support for static classes?

# ? May 9, 2019 23:14

pokeyman: Nov 26, 2006; That elephant ate my entire platoon.

NihilCredo posted:

what do you guys call a class that has no state and no constructor arguments, just a bundle of pure functions that exists only because your language has poor support for static classes?

java

# ? May 9, 2019 23:49

Corla Plankun: May 8, 2007; improve the lives of everyone

i think that sometimes is what people mean when they say a singleton right?

# ? May 9, 2019 23:52

animist: Aug 28, 2018

pokeyman posted:

java

alternatively, c

# ? May 9, 2019 23:57

pokeyman: Nov 26, 2006; That elephant ate my entire platoon.

NihilCredo posted:

what do you guys call a class that has no state and no constructor arguments, just a bundle of pure functions that exists only because your language has poor support for static classes?

my real answer is "a namespace"

# ? May 10, 2019 00:01

Kazinsal: Dec 13, 2011

NihilCredo posted:

what do you guys call a class that has no state and no constructor arguments, just a bundle of pure functions that exists only because your language has poor support for static classes?

a grave misunderstanding

# ? May 10, 2019 00:17

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

NihilCredo posted:

what do you guys call a class that has no state and no constructor arguments, just a bundle of pure functions that exists only because your language has poor support for static classes?

utils.languageextension

# ? May 10, 2019 00:20

DaTroof: Nov 16, 2000; CC LIMERICK CONTEST GRAND CHAMPION
There once was a poster named Troof
Who was getting quite long in the toof

pokeyman posted:

my real answer is "a namespace"

# ? May 10, 2019 00:25

Soricidus: Oct 20, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

NihilCredo posted:

what do you guys call a class that has no state and no constructor arguments, just a bundle of pure functions that exists only because your language has poor support for static classes?

I believe �utility class� is the standard term among users of languages that require this pattern

ideally the functions should not have anything in common, and there should be at least three versions of each in different places in the project

# ? May 10, 2019 01:16

Soricidus: Oct 20, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

Private Speech posted:

now that's just mean

e: how well does Maven work with c++ and python anyway, I've only used it with java

what does python need with a build system

I know people who use maven to build c code tho so clearly it is possible. I doubt it is good, but that will primarily be because the good parts of maven rely on tooling, metadata, etc that simply do not exist for c

# ? May 10, 2019 01:19

Private Speech: Mar 30, 2011; I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.

Soricidus posted:

what does python need with a build system

to make a .deb redistributable with a bunch of configuration files, virtualenv libraries and auto-generated api documentation

it was a little tongue-in-cheek, the point being that cmake is good at some things and maven at others without much overlap

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 01:49 on May 10, 2019

# ? May 10, 2019 01:47

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; altid pamo når du går
veje du burd' kende
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lig' til livets ende

animist posted:

alternatively, c

c... with classes? :wth:

# ? May 10, 2019 03:50

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; altid pamo når du går
veje du burd' kende
overleved' barneår
lig' til livets ende

also my latex thing keeps hanging and idk why

# ? May 10, 2019 03:51

Xarn: Jun 26, 2015

pokeyman posted:

my real answer is "a namespace"

alternatively, reason why Java and C# are stupid

# ? May 10, 2019 05:00

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

(in-package :butts) is the best way to namespace

# ? May 10, 2019 05:02

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

NihilCredo posted:

what do you guys call a class that has no state and no constructor arguments, just a bundle of pure functions that exists only because your language has poor support for static classes?

i call it time to switch to a good language op.

# ? May 10, 2019 05:18

Powerful Two-Hander: Mar 9, 2004; Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.

Bloody posted:

i like developing c# because i just open the solution in visual studio and click build and thats the whole build process

i was gonna post this lol

Terrible programmers: turns out our db uses @@server for some funky environment aware calls based on host cname and whoops looks like that changed when we upgraded the db so we've been sending prod emails to the dev edl all week

# ? May 10, 2019 13:20

Finster Dexter: Oct 20, 2014; Beyond is Finster's mad vision of Earth transformed.

This blazor talk is pretty good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7LAbdoNBJA

This poo poo still seems a long way off, though, unless you want your client-side stuff running on top of mono.asm. .NET 5 is slated for like 2021... so 2 more years until reactjs is dead.

# ? May 10, 2019 13:22

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

the first version of server side blazor will be ready this year and will probably be more appropriate for most solutions anyway

# ? May 10, 2019 13:28

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

i did some work on a server side blazor thing in 3.0 preview 4 and it works great.

# ? May 10, 2019 13:29

Aramoro: Jun 1, 2012

Blazor looks like terrible garbage that's going to die in the vine.

# ? May 10, 2019 13:47

NihilCredo: Jun 6, 2011; iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

i was gonna post this lol

Terrible programmers: turns out our db uses @@server for some funky environment aware calls based on host cname and whoops looks like that changed when we upgraded the db so we've been sending prod emails to the dev edl all week

i actually have some dev scripts that start with this for safety

code:

     declare @devserver nvarchar(max) = 'NIHILCREDO-PC'

     if host_name() <> @devServer or @@server <> @devServer begin 
         select 'dont run this in prod u moron' 
         return 
     end

this was entirely a thing i came up with ahead of time and totally not a follow up to some potentially disastrous mistake

# ? May 10, 2019 16:20

akadajet: Sep 14, 2003

Aramoro posted:

Blazor looks like terrible garbage that's going to die in the vine.

# ? May 10, 2019 16:36

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

blazor owns and is going to destroy javascript forever

# ? May 10, 2019 16:37

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; altid pamo når du går
veje du burd' kende
overleved' barneår
lig' til livets ende

more like blassor

# ? May 10, 2019 17:08

DELETE CASCADE: Oct 25, 2017; i haven't washed my penis since i jerked it to a phtotograph of george w. bush in 2003

i don't know what blazor is but if shaggar likes it then surely no one in silicon valley will use it

# ? May 10, 2019 17:18

necrotic: Aug 1, 2005; I owe my brother big time for this!

Shaggar posted:

blazor owns and is going to destroy javascript forever

good luck with that. not everyone uses .net despite your strongest wishes.

# ? May 10, 2019 17:22

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

people will always be dumb but as long as i never have to touch js its good

# ? May 10, 2019 17:27

HoboMan: Nov 4, 2010

quote:

Angular defines an ErrorHandler class that will allow us to override it and handle custom logic. Typically, I have my error handlers do things like show some sort of notification to the user via a dialog or growl-like component (ideally with a emoji)

ugh

# ? May 10, 2019 17:28

HoboMan: Nov 4, 2010

shagger is right, the internet was a mistake

# ? May 10, 2019 17:29

Chalks: Sep 30, 2009

Shaggar posted:

people will always be dumb but as long as i never have to touch js its good

it seems cool but it won't replace javascript for the same reason typescript hasn't replaced javascript

# ? May 10, 2019 17:34

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

typescript hasn't replaced javascript because javascript is the only browser language. if javascript is no longer the only browser language then you no longer need javascript

# ? May 10, 2019 17:37