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ThePeavstenator posted:I had an intern this summer, his work involves interfacing with the software my team writes, and he reports to a different manager at the same level as mine. I had a person that I was actually being paid to mentor and me offering help was a courtesy in the first place. I don't doubt that you have helped others learn stuff and that you offered help to this guy. e: also I get it-- organizationally speaking, this person is Not Your Responsibility and you are a good teammate for looking out for them, period Perhaps not at all relevant to your experience, but my tactic when leaning on people to do the right thing (and not leave work in a losable state) re: version control is basically just to keep on repeating, "the way it is right now, we could lose this work that you have done" between talking about how easy it will be to actually keep the work and/or how it's okay if not everything is perfect or complete, "this is just a branch"
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prisoner of waffles posted:I don't doubt that you have helped others learn stuff and that you offered help to this guy. e: also I get it-- organizationally speaking, this person is Not Your Responsibility and you are a good teammate for looking out for them, period I did this exact thing every time he asked for help.
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# ? Sep 4, 2018 20:08 |
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cant help someone who is unwilling to learn. i think the only thing to question is whether something about your process had them so stressed that they didnt think they could take their time and learn to do things right.
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# ? Sep 4, 2018 20:08 |
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people who dont want to learn are basically people who dont want to work. take them to the river and drown them.
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# ? Sep 4, 2018 20:26 |
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ThePeavstenator posted:I did this exact thing every time he asked for help. you did right, my bad for criticizing
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# ? Sep 4, 2018 20:36 |
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gently caress that guy
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# ? Sep 4, 2018 20:42 |
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:people who dont want to learn are basically people who dont want to work.
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# ? Sep 4, 2018 20:48 |
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I'm more interested in how this person was allowed to work for two or three straight weeks in a row, by himself, with nothing to show for it. Every morning, "Nope, still haven't done any work"?
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# ? Sep 4, 2018 21:07 |
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Doom Mathematic posted:I'm more interested in how this person was allowed to work for two or three straight weeks in a row, by himself, with nothing to show for it. Every morning, "Nope, still haven't done any work"? His job is to move customer data from our old software to the new software. His manager only cares that the customers can get migrated and that the data is in a state they're happy with. The code he lost was for tools he wrote for himself.
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# ? Sep 4, 2018 21:14 |
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trying to teach people how to use vcs tools is basically my least favorite thing and i just wont do it any more its just too frustrating. fuckers out here checking in copy of copy of backup final spreadsheet(1).xlsx right next to spreadsheet.xlsx like its totally fine and i just cant
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# ? Sep 4, 2018 21:31 |
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Git's ui sucks but ugh yeah cmon people at least try Not gonna expect people to push immaculate rebaded change sets polished to a shine on the lathe of git interactive rebase but at least get the basic stuff right
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# ? Sep 4, 2018 21:38 |
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Git has a ui?
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# ? Sep 4, 2018 21:53 |
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uh yes?
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# ? Sep 4, 2018 21:57 |
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git is good, wish we used it here over svn bc i like local branches. Also it's way easier to merge w/ git which sounds weird and might be ebcause I'm more used to git.
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# ? Sep 4, 2018 22:19 |
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Was on a call with a client today who wanted our tool to interface with some other piece of software they use so we end up getting some type of 'integration representative' for the product on the call. He starts bragging about all of their features and interface capabilities and tells us that the DB that the application sits on has over 40,000 tables. Is this a thing that people actually do? All we could think of internally is that maybe the entire schema is generated programmatically and there's stuff like a different 'orders' table for every month up to %FUTUREDATE%?
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# ? Sep 4, 2018 22:28 |
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table-1 TEST-table-1-delete as Infiniti
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elcannon posted:Was on a call with a client today who wanted our tool to interface with some other piece of software they use so we end up getting some type of 'integration representative' for the product on the call. He starts bragging about all of their features and interface capabilities and tells us that the DB that the application sits on has over 40,000 tables. Is this a thing that people actually do? All we could think of internally is that maybe the entire schema is generated programmatically and there's stuff like a different 'orders' table for every month up to %FUTUREDATE%? That's weird. I worked at a mid-size bank for a little while and the number of tables was less than 1000. I worked on a large public-safety platform and that had like 300-ish tables. What industry would have 40000 tables? Maybe health care?
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Finster Dexter posted:That's weird. I worked at a mid-size bank for a little while and the number of tables was less than 1000. I worked on a large public-safety platform and that had like 300-ish tables. What industry would have 40000 tables? Maybe health care? the industry of badly architected applications so probably healthcare
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# ? Sep 4, 2018 22:51 |
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It is healthcare, yes. I've been working in the industry for a little under a year now, so I've seen enough that I'm concerned that our next call is going to end with them settling on the interface option of "we'll email you the sa creds, have at it".
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# ? Sep 4, 2018 23:02 |
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healthcare data can be hard to normalize so lots of tables is expected but idk about 40k
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# ? Sep 4, 2018 23:25 |
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speaking of C in the past few threads, I saw the 2018 IOCCC sources were released.code:
quote:The program delivered here is both a full machine emulation of the original if this doesn't make you feel terrible, I don't know what will.
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# ? Sep 4, 2018 23:27 |
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:
ill, sure.
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# ? Sep 4, 2018 23:41 |
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glad im following up on "C thinks everything is a PDP-11" right after ^^^^gonadic io posted:c is v good to learn pointers in, but it's for sure not what is happening under the hood at least for modern processors: there's a ludicrous amount of handwaving very, very early on: "A modern Intel processor has up to 180 instructions in flight at a time" - nope "A typical heuristic for C code is that there is a branch, on average, every seven instructions." - meaningless without an ISA "If you wish to keep such a pipeline full from a single thread, then you must guess the targets of the next 25 branches." whoa, who knew multiplying two made-up numbers would also produce garbage! it's clearly wedded to "C on x86," but doesn't really mention that or talk about something like cortex-m where c's mapping to the HW is much higher fidelity the section under "Imagining a Non-C Processor" gives Sparc undue credence, and falls back on the generic functional programmer rant that the entire history of computing ought to have been better if "immutable" had existed on the first caching designs
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# ? Sep 4, 2018 23:45 |
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x86 was a mistake
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# ? Sep 5, 2018 00:00 |
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:x86 was a mistake agreed
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:computers was a mistake
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# ? Sep 5, 2018 00:50 |
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:mix86tape
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# ? Sep 5, 2018 00:55 |
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anybody remember transmeta their technology was pretty cool apart from the unfortunate aspect that it didn't actually do anything useful
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Sapozhnik posted:anybody remember transmeta i thought they existed just to provide linus a salary
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# ? Sep 5, 2018 01:03 |
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Sapozhnik posted:anybody remember transmeta transmeta was absolutely where everyone ought to have been by now i went to internal talks from ex-transmeta folks at DTTC, it is a shame that CMS hasn't found a new niche yet like every OoO optimization you've ever heard of is gear 0, the gears went up to 5
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# ? Sep 5, 2018 01:08 |
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someone had a Transmeta dev board for sale in the consignment room at Vintage Computer Festival West this year there was also a Toshiba 286-based portable with a plasma screen and a sign saying it was like the gun turret computers in Aliens! (LOL those were GRiD Compass II model 1139 with electroluminescent screens)
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# ? Sep 5, 2018 03:27 |
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:yeah git is so hard to use it hasn't gotten any traction in the industry, or in private projects lol
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# ? Sep 5, 2018 03:40 |
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it's me the guy who thinks adoption happens for technical reasons
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# ? Sep 5, 2018 03:40 |
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liking git is its own punishment for such a bad opinion
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stoked for pijul to hit 1.0 someday
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# ? Sep 5, 2018 03:53 |
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is there something better than git's distributed immutable dag for programming source control seems deece enough for me
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# ? Sep 5, 2018 03:56 |
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tef posted:it's me the guy who thinks adoption happens for technical reasons you gotta satisfice on the technical reasons and the ruthless cutthroat competition happens for social reasons git and mercurial and bazaar and darcs and fossil and poo poo all do the dvcs thing well, with varying crappiness of ui. dvcs is materially leaps and bounds better than rcs, cvs, tfs and svn, as a class. after that they fought like jackals on the social side and git won
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comedyblissoption posted:is there something better than git's distributed immutable dag for programming source control piper b*tch
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bob dobbs is dead posted:you gotta satisfice on the technical reasons and the ruthless cutthroat competition happens for social reasons counter point: people had hacked up poo poo that git did for years git was faster, sure, but if it wasn't for linus torvalds using it, we'd all be using mercurial
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Illusive gently caress Man posted:piper b*tch macos only lol
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