https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/9101
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# ? Sep 12, 2018 14:27 |
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# ? Dec 7, 2024 06:27 |
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This doesn't even loving break anything and yet all these crazy people are getting upset that python isn't going to use the word slave any more.
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# ? Sep 12, 2018 14:34 |
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That cookie preference poo poo broke down with "not all of our partners support https" for me.
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# ? Sep 12, 2018 14:37 |
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my favorite solution to the master/slave fight is redis's where they kept the words but added a note in the docs to remind people that slavery is bad e: https://redis.io/commands/slaveof Flat Daddy fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Sep 12, 2018 |
# ? Sep 12, 2018 14:42 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVwKjGbz60k
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# ? Sep 12, 2018 15:08 |
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Flat Daddy posted:my favorite solution to the master/slave fight is redis's where they kept the words but added a note in the docs to remind people that slavery is bad lmao this might be the worst take
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# ? Sep 12, 2018 15:13 |
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iirc, the redis guy decided to reluctantly okay changing the terms after DHH plead with him a bit on twitter. so that will get fixed eventually too
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# ? Sep 12, 2018 16:35 |
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Yay, live TV debugging again, Apparently NIO IPOd today, a Chinese firm copying Tesla. NIO however was used by Nuveen previously and many data services are still dumb and say the ticker is Nuveen. However at 10am this morning one post on the floor flipped all it's logos from new NIO to old NIO. Like that's two independent servers with no caching. 5 minutes later it corrected itself. I turned on Cheddar and you can see both logos, as above, however you can see Nuveen is a different ticker code, one of their funds. I think someone is pulling my leg.
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# ? Sep 12, 2018 17:10 |
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mystes posted:This doesn't even loving break anything and yet all these crazy people are getting upset that python isn't going to use the word slave any more. I understand the removal of slave I guess but removing "master" seems pretty silly. That use of terminology isn't even IT specific.
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# ? Sep 12, 2018 17:34 |
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DONT THREAD ON ME posted:i'm learning about quaternions now because i'm thinking seriously about game dev. they're cool imo. btw 3b1b just started releasing a series of videos on quaternions, it's some amazing stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4EgbgTm0Bg
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# ? Sep 12, 2018 18:39 |
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Symbolic Butt posted:btw 3b1b just started releasing a series of videos on quaternions, it's some amazing stuff Scrub tier https://www.quantamagazine.org/the-octonion-math-that-could-underpin-physics-20180720/
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# ? Sep 12, 2018 18:47 |
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maybe in 30 years someone will find a neat application of octonions in programming, it'll be rad
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# ? Sep 12, 2018 18:54 |
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Symbolic Butt posted:maybe in 30 years someone will find a neat application of octonions in programming, it'll be rad quantum quaternions i bet
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# ? Sep 12, 2018 18:56 |
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Chalks posted:I understand the removal of slave I guess but removing "master" seems pretty silly. That use of terminology isn't even IT specific. the dev says he isn't a native English speaker so he probably wasn't sure and played it safe
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# ? Sep 12, 2018 19:35 |
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primary/secondary is a fine replacement for master/slave imo parent/child seems to fit better in the cpython case though, or anything related to forking
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# ? Sep 12, 2018 20:03 |
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necrotic posted:primary/secondary is a fine replacement for master/slave imo you can take my KILL CHILD from my cold dead body
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# ? Sep 12, 2018 20:09 |
Symbolic Butt posted:maybe in 30 years someone will find a neat application of octonions in programming, it'll be rad clifford algebras all the way imo
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# ? Sep 12, 2018 20:14 |
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gonadic io posted:you can take my KILL CHILD from my cold dead body this was a high priority bug epic had to fix after a catholic children's hospital got mad about it
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# ? Sep 12, 2018 20:30 |
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Symbolic Butt posted:maybe in 30 years someone will find a neat application of octonions in programming, it'll be rad they haven't found any applications in actual physics yet, wait until they do that
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# ? Sep 12, 2018 20:31 |
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necrotic posted:primary/secondary is a fine replacement for master/slave imo Depends on the context, master is good for a bunch of stuff. Slave has always been clumsy terminology IMO
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# ? Sep 12, 2018 20:32 |
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master/slave isn't even that good for most scenarios. active/active active/passive active/readonly, etc... are better for like dbs and load balancing or stuff w/ peers parent/child is good for something with hierarchy like processes, markup, or layout.
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# ? Sep 12, 2018 20:32 |
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Shaggar posted:master/slave isn't even that good for most scenarios. Master works well for stuff like master passwords, or a master database containing access information for a bunch of other databases. It implies one system is in control of others to some degree, but isn't necessarily interchangeable or the origin of those systems. Slave implies that a system not only provides a service to another, but is also incapable of providing services to any other system besides the one specifically assigned as its master. I struggle to think of scenarios where that's a good fit.
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# ? Sep 12, 2018 20:37 |
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Really all we need to do is rename "cluster" to "Confederacy."
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# ? Sep 12, 2018 20:44 |
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next people will get mad that my random::next_int always returns 1488
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# ? Sep 12, 2018 20:45 |
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Shaggar posted:master/slave isn't even that good for most scenarios. this feels like a very un-shaggar take
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# ? Sep 13, 2018 04:43 |
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my car/bicycle database setup
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# ? Sep 13, 2018 10:54 |
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seems like just replacing slave with servant would be the absolute minimal change on all fronts but i can't think of anything that ever used those terms
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# ? Sep 13, 2018 12:36 |
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MononcQc posted:my car/bicycle database setup “The car crashed again and took out all the bicycles. it was a good day.”
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# ? Sep 13, 2018 13:05 |
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is it really too hard to use manager/worker, or does that phrasing hit too close to home with how little control we have over our jobs sometimes?
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# ? Sep 13, 2018 13:05 |
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the1percent/the99percent
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# ? Sep 13, 2018 13:10 |
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mario/luigis
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# ? Sep 13, 2018 13:11 |
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Slurps Mad Rips posted:is it really too hard to use manager/worker, or does that phrasing hit too close to home with how little control we have over our jobs sometimes?
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# ? Sep 13, 2018 13:12 |
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Lime posted:seems like just replacing slave with servant would be the absolute minimal change on all fronts but i can't think of anything that ever used those terms our product's mainframe version has a control region and some servant regions in memory, that's the only time i've heard servant used
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# ? Sep 13, 2018 13:14 |
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If we use master and servant I'm going to have that Depeche Mode song stuck in my head all the time. I can't work like this.
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# ? Sep 13, 2018 13:31 |
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Lime posted:mario/luigis mario/yoshis
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# ? Sep 13, 2018 13:35 |
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I use leader if a server elected (as in quorum systems), and master if it is a title bestowed upon the server by an operator. The leader or master is backed by followers, which may replace it some day. "replicas" for the followers works as well, but carries a meaning of "never gonna be made leader or master and is only there for redundancy". I don't really know if there's a stigma attached to it, but I always figured that 'master/follower' would never hit the same sensitive spot that 'master/slave' usually does since it re-contextualizes 'master' a bit. So far no complaints. Primary/secondary can work well, but mostly in a tight failover/takeover scenario with paired hardware that doesn't really change topology: there is an expectation that you have two computers, the task runs mainly on one, the primary. If the primary fails, the systems fails over to the secondary. As soon as the primary comes back up, it may take over the work again, and the secondary sits tight doing little.
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# ? Sep 13, 2018 14:51 |
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Nobleman/peasant
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# ? Sep 13, 2018 15:10 |
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gonadic io posted:you can take my KILL CHILD from my cold dead body we have software running on embedded devices that hits our server, it then reads the json response. one of our requirements was to have a way to force the device to basically do a factory reset. this is what we use: code:
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# ? Sep 13, 2018 15:10 |
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MononcQc posted:I use leader if a server elected (as in quorum systems), and master if it is a title bestowed upon the server by an operator. The leader or master is backed by followers, which may replace it some day. "replicas" for the followers works as well, but carries a meaning of "never gonna be made leader or master and is only there for redundancy". I don't really know if there's a stigma attached to it, but I always figured that 'master/follower' would never hit the same sensitive spot that 'master/slave' usually does since it re-contextualizes 'master' a bit. So far no complaints. at one point epics server team started replicas "near real-time copies of production" which led to the very fun to say abbreviation NRTC (NURRTACK).
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# ? Sep 13, 2018 15:31 |
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# ? Dec 7, 2024 06:27 |
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jit bull transpile posted:at one point epics server team started replicas "near real-time copies of production" which led to the very fun to say abbreviation NRTC (NURRTACK). should be pronounced "nartic"
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# ? Sep 13, 2018 15:39 |