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akadajet posted:nano works mostly okay, shaggar nano is really bad. the only reason for anyone to start using it today is because emacs and vi use non-standard keyboard shortcuts ... except so does nano so that’s not much of an improvement. just learn a proper editor if you ever actually need to edit files in a terminal, which you probably don’t
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Shaggar posted:vs code is not good but I imagine its amazing in the context of Linux vs code is the only decent product microsoft has made in decades I mean yeah it's based on a lovely framework but ms is used to work with that kind of things
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Sep 25, 2018 15:16
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actually visual studio is the best thing microsoft has ever made and they're still making it, so
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Sep 25, 2018 15:21
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Shaggar what's the deal with Windows Subsystem for Linux? (In your esteemed opinion)
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Sep 25, 2018 15:25
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Bloody posted:actually visual studio is the best thing microsoft has ever made and they're still making it, so I must admit that I didn't need to kill devenv.exe even once today, that's pretty good
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Sep 25, 2018 15:33
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prisoner of waffles posted:Shaggar what's the deal with Windows Subsystem for Linux? (In your esteemed opinion) i am not shagger but i like it a lot, previous to it i had endless copies of mingw and vbox and docker and msys installed. it's not a lot better than having a persistant linux docker container mind you
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Sep 25, 2018 15:40
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prisoner of waffles posted:Shaggar what's the deal with Windows Subsystem for Linux? (In your esteemed opinion) its a neat toy and a good demonstrator of NT kernel superiority. I use it when I need to SSH into legacy systems, but beyond that its pointless.
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Sep 25, 2018 15:45
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Linux developers have spent decades failing to build a working windows emulator and then Microsoft made a full compat layer for running Linux processes in like a year. I guess it means you can run bad text editors on windows now, but im pretty sure you could already gently caress up working windows editors with vim/emacs binds.
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Sep 25, 2018 15:48
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Shaggar posted:Linux developers have spent decades failing to build a working windows emulator and then Microsoft made a full compat layer for running Linux processes in like a year. Eh. The compatibility layer is more like the cygwin project than the wine project, and is significantly more limited now than cygwin. Of course, the compatibility layer does have the ability to use undocumented stuff so who knows.
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Sep 25, 2018 15:51
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Bloody posted:actually visual studio is the best thing microsoft has ever made and they're still making it, so Does it still ship proprietary, opaque binary blobs? I hope so, because I consider spyware to be a feature of my text editor.
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Sep 25, 2018 16:00
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ulmont posted:Eh. The compatibility layer is more like the cygwin project than the wine project, and is significantly more limited now than cygwin. Of course, the compatibility layer does have the ability to use undocumented stuff so who knows. oh sure. wine is an emulator since it has to create functionality not present in the native linux host. WSL is a compat/translation layer since the functionality required by linux is a subset of windows. Cygwin was definitely closer to WSL than wine but they did it in kind of a weird pseudo-linux compatibility layer. you cant just run linux programs on Cygwin like you can w/ WSL. I don't know what the purpose of running linux stuff on windows is, but its a neat trick.
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Sep 25, 2018 16:01
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prisoner of waffles posted:Shaggar what's the deal with Windows Subsystem for Linux? (In your esteemed opinion) It's really bad. AFAIK, they still haven't figured out how to stop it from aggressively corrupting your file system. Stuff like switching git branches, using webpack, or anything else that thrashes your drives even a little bit ends up seriously screwing things up, such that you start getting a lot of errors when you do things like "delete a file".
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Sep 25, 2018 16:33
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Shaggar posted:I don't know what the purpose of running linux stuff on windows is, but its a neat trick. Shaggar posted:I use it when I need to SSH into legacy systems, but beyond that its pointless.
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Sep 25, 2018 16:41
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I don't need an entire linux on my computer to do ssh
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Sep 25, 2018 16:53
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Finster Dexter posted:It's really bad. AFAIK, they still haven't figured out how to stop it from aggressively corrupting your file system. Stuff like switching git branches, using webpack, or anything else that thrashes your drives even a little bit ends up seriously screwing things up, such that you start getting a lot of errors when you do things like "delete a file". why would you do any of that from linux tho?
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Sep 25, 2018 16:54
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Shaggar posted:why would you do any of that from linux tho? Personally, I wouldn't, but the point is that if you do ANYTHING from the linux subsystem that uses more than a little bit of IO, your whole system ends up getting kinda hosed.
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Sep 25, 2018 17:59
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does it mess up the linux fs or the windows fs? i haven't really done enough w/ it to hit any bugs
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Sep 25, 2018 18:01
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Shaggar posted:does it mess up the linux fs or the windows fs? i haven't really done enough w/ it to hit any bugs Both.
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Sep 25, 2018 18:39
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Shaggar posted:Linux developers have spent decades failing to build a working windows emulator and then Microsoft made a full compat layer for running Linux processes in like a year. I guess it means you can run bad text editors on windows now, but im pretty sure you could already gently caress up working windows editors with vim/emacs binds. full compat layer that can't uphold "guest" or "host" filesystem invariants, lomarf e: thanks microsoft. thicrosoft. thiccrosoft?
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Sep 25, 2018 19:06
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ctps: folks, I think I like C
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Sep 25, 2018 19:20
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akadajet posted:nano works mostly okay, shaggar nano is a clone of pico created for ideological (GNU) purposes pico’s interface was based on the pine email client’s interface which was based extensively on full screen PDP-10 (TOPS-10, TENEX, and TOPS-20) interfaces there’s a reason it’s decent compared to other UNIX software
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AggressivelyStupid posted:ctps: folks, I think I like C C’s a pretty likable little language with a lot of scary dark corners just waiting to gently caress up your poo poo hard
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Sep 25, 2018 19:34
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Yeah I kinda like that. Give me a rear wheel drive car with snap oversteer, give me a those dark scary corners, I lust for death
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Sep 25, 2018 19:38
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xtal posted:Does it still ship proprietary, opaque binary blobs? I hope so, because I consider spyware to be a feature of my text editor. it's been open source under an mit license for a while now. if you download one of their prebuilt binaries, it ships with preconfigured telemetry options and ms-specific branding. other than that i think they're the same
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Sep 25, 2018 19:58
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Shaggar posted:I use it when I need to SSH into legacy systems, but beyond that its pointless. lmao openssh has been shipping natively with Windows 10 for months now what the gently caress are you even doing aside from loving up
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Slurps Mad Rips posted:lmao openssh has been shipping natively with Windows 10 for months now what the gently caress are you even doing aside from loving up I've got it installed for easy X11 forwarding
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Sep 26, 2018 03:42
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doing emulator 101, and keep bouncing back between mapping my instructions to Enums with the data(e.g. MOV(Register, Register), ), which sucks because it means my instructions are "special" in memory, or just opcodes I dereference when I need to care what they are. The downside to the -latter- is that during execution of the emulator, i have to care when i need to load more data, which arggh my perfect desiign.
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Sep 26, 2018 03:43
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windows is a fine OS if you are chronically poor or incapable of using a computer that's connected to the internet. it works well if you treat it like a video game console, its a toy for novel purposes, and the people who spend the majority of using it are pathetic and useless.
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Beamed posted:doing emulator 101, and keep bouncing back between mapping my instructions to Enums with the data(e.g. MOV(Register, Register), ), which sucks because it means my instructions are "special" in memory, or just opcodes I dereference when I need to care what they are. I flipped back and forth a few times, too and just barely caught myself before I put everything in my Opcode enum. I ended up with an enum that had the byte value of the opcode and the number of bytes in the instruction. I then started by having each emulateWhatever() function increment the program counter by the size of the instruction, but that broke down quickly when I implemented interrupts and had to account for jumping back to whatever the next instruction would have been before the interrupt. Mostly, I was just glad I vomited tests everywhere for everything, because it meant I was able to blow up my implementation without much fear! (That cpudiag.bin code helped a lot, too.)
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:windows is a fine OS if you are chronically poor or incapable of using a computer that's connected to the internet. it works well if you treat it like a video game console, its a toy for novel purposes, and the people who spend the majority of using it are pathetic and useless. there are only good OSs and the OSs that you use
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Sep 26, 2018 05:32
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:windows is a fine OS if you are chronically poor or incapable of using a computer that's connected to the internet. it works well if you treat it like a video game console, its a toy for novel purposes, and the people who spend the majority of using it are pathetic and useless. eat whats left of my dick
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Sep 26, 2018 05:46
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Slurps Mad Rips posted:eat whats left of my dick ... I think he's trying to do "Shaggar but backwards" fwiw
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Sep 26, 2018 06:17
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lmao imagine caring about which operating system someone else uses enough to repeatedly post about it on a dead forum
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Sep 26, 2018 06:33
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redleader posted:lmao imagine caring enough to post
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Sep 26, 2018 07:21
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Amazing startup idea: gzip as a service
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gonadic io posted:Amazing startup idea: gzip as a service gaas oh i see what you did there
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Captain Foo posted:gaas lmao
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Sep 26, 2018 13:55
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I gunzipped my maliciously prepared pants and filled your drive with zeroes.
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Slurps Mad Rips posted:lmao openssh has been shipping natively with Windows 10 for months now what the gently caress are you even doing aside from loving up if I was just using ssh i'd install putty or something.
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