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MaxieSatan posted:Very excited that Michael is finally arriving at the conclusion that the system is rotten to the core and needs to be torn down entirely. A true comrade honestly i figured the show was going in that direction with all the hints we've been given
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I am surprised that nobody mentioned that the opening was a huge Lost reference.
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I can imagine that the judge is going to have some questions regarding a bunch of demons somehow coming back from earth. That should be fun!
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Oasx posted:I am surprised that nobody mentioned that the opening was a huge Lost reference. I felt it was obvious enough that it didn't really need a comment Desmond's character intro is still one of my all-time favorites
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Yeah it seemed very obvious that Doug was doomed because his desires were corrupt. If he was genuinely happy with how his life was going that'd be one thing, but as pointed out he was miserable deep down. Actually, could it be that as soon as Doug got the epiphany of how the point system worked, he was doomed anyway since his counter would have stopped? Since he 'realized' how the system operated, even if subconsciously.
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With what Shawn was saying, from the first episode I thought that the point score needed for the good place was so obscenely high that you basically need to end slavery or start the world's biggest charity to even be considered. Doug isn't going to the good place because there's no way he is ever going to accrue enough points to get in even if he's living as the most ethical version of himself. Arist posted:I was wrong, apparently the next episode is on the 6th. Netflix has it for January for us non Americans ![]()
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ApplesandOranges posted:Yeah it seemed very obvious that Doug was doomed because his desires were corrupt. If he was genuinely happy with how his life was going that'd be one thing, but as pointed out he was miserable deep down. I don't know, I got the sense Shawn was implying that the reason Doug and the others were doomed was because Michael showed up in their lives; he only mentioned, the group, their loved ones and Doug. Michael's interference is what they all have in common.
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ApplesandOranges posted:Yeah it seemed very obvious that Doug was doomed because his desires were corrupt. If he was genuinely happy with how his life was going that'd be one thing, but as pointed out he was miserable deep down. The system does seem set up to ding you if you do good for any reason other than pure selflessness. Remember, Tahani did millions of dollars of charity work when she was alive and none of it counts because she did it to feed her ego and compete with her sister. I suspect we may find out that no one has ever qualified for the Good Place, although that may be a bit too obvious. Maybe Abraham Lincoln is hanging out there alone wondering where everyone else is.
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The podcast directly addresses this issue. Doug’s not dinged because he doesn’t know this is how it works. It’s a guess, based off a hallucination.
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pwn posted:The podcast directly addresses this issue. Doug’s not dinged because he doesn’t know this is how it works. It’s a guess, based off a hallucination. Nice I was about to post my thought about this - it's effectively the same as a religious person doing good because they believe they'll be rewarded for it in the afterlife. Doug's religion just happens to actually be right in this world.
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Janet knows kung fu.
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LongDarkNight posted:Janet knows kung fu. Janet knows Literally Everything. Kung fu is a subset of Literally Everything.
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but she didnt know doug's situation somehow
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:but she didnt know doug's situation somehow Another thing is What’s-her-name continuing where she left off when she was un-cocooned. Earlier this season, when Sean cocoons whatever demon (I think the fire monster who was sucking up?), he kept trying to talk after being cocooned. So, do you continue being aware while cocooned, or do you go into suspension? Or is it mainly dependent on if the Mega-Demons writing your lines really want to make a joke? I only pick these nits because, I remember a while back, Schur said something about being advised to map the show out, to learn from the mistakes made by Lost. Sure, individual episodes are written as they come, but that there should be an end game towards which you work, and it will keep you focused from making sloppy mistakes as you try to wing it. It’s a testament to how amazing a job they do on this show, that the three internal logic inconsistencies noted thus far (Eleanor’s mind-blowing gag being the other) are so noticeable against an otherwise sound 3D world. But when you consider that these three errors (?) are all from S3... well, I hope it isn’t a portent of things to come. The first two seasons were so damned tight, I’d hate to see it become a cartoon.
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I sure hope someone got fired for those blunders
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I know, it’s hard to bring up criticisms without evoking strong reactions. Like, for real. If it goes that way, it’ll still be one of the best shows ever made. pwn fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Nov 16, 2018 |
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The Lord Bude posted:Janet knows Literally Everything. Kung fu is a subset of Literally Everything. And it rules. I was legit worried about the gang getting dragged back to the Bad Place and didn't see a way out. Then Janet goes all Neo on them. It's the most happy about something in a TV show I've been in a while.
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Regy Rusty posted:I sure hope someone got fired for those blunders I know, right? They are bunglers, and they will be executed!! Hardline: one bungle, you're out. Zero bungle tolerance. (Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o_B_-gbo50&t=60s)
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The book Doug is reading when we first see him, The Most Good You Can Do, is a real book not a background text gag. In it Singer talks a little about me so I have a selfish desire to promote it.
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settle down, Tahani.
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Also Doug did not put as much thought into his diet as he could've. Jainism is a religion practiced by several million people that is famous for their utter dedication to non-violence. For example, Jainist monks carry a broom with them at all times for sweeping away the ground before they sit down so as to not accidentally crush any minute life that might be there. Wikipedia on their diet:quote:For Jains, lacto-vegetarianism is mandatory. Food is restricted to that originating from plants, since plants have only one sense ('ekindriya') and are the least developed form of life, and dairy products. Food that contains even the smallest particles of the bodies of dead animals or eggs is unacceptable.[17][18] Some Jain scholars and activists support veganism, as the modern commercialised production of dairy products is perceived to involve violence against cows. In ancient times, dairy animals were well cared for and not killed. According to Jain texts, a śrāvaka (householder) shouldn't consume the four maha-vigai (the four perversions) - wine, flesh, butter and honey; and the five udumbara fruits (the five udumbara trees are Gular, Anjeera, Banyan, Peepal, and Pakar, all belonging to the fig class).[19][20]
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:but she didnt know doug's situation somehow pwn posted:The first two seasons were so damned tight, Id hate to see it become a cartoon. I think part of it might just be Janet's increasing humanity. She knew how Doug was living and she knew that he was miserable, but she didn't know what that actually meant until she actually met him and connected with him on a human level. If she seemed surprised by the idea that Doug might be doomed now (if Shawn can be believed, of course), it might be because it's due to something that happened while they were on Earth, after she was cut off from her knowledge updates--maybe, as others have suggested, it was her and Michael's intervention that doomed him, for example. Gobbeldygook posted:Also Doug did not put as much thought into his diet as he could've. Jainism is a religion practiced by several million people that is famous for their utter dedication to non-violence. For example, Jainist monks carry a broom with them at all times for sweeping away the ground before they sit down so as to not accidentally crush any minute life that might be there. Wikipedia on their diet: What I find interesting her is the prohibition against eggs but the allowance of milk. Cows, like any other mammal, only lactate when they need to do so to care for their young. That means that for a dairy cow to continue producing milk, that cow needs to continue producing more calves. If those calves are male, they can't produce dairy. These days, a farm doesn't need that many bulls, so the majority of them are raised for slaughter--so even though a cow didn't need to be killed for you to get that cow's milk, the necessity of continuing to produce offspring means that, inevitably, cow slaughter will result from dairy farming. I don't know enough about pre-modern methods, though, and maybe things were different somehow? Meanwhile, a chicken is going to produce eggs whether or not those eggs are fertilized. They're going to lay those eggs whether they're fertilized or not, and an unfertilized egg will never become a chicken, so there's no harm in taking them and eating them, right? Harrow fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Nov 16, 2018 |
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Gobbeldygook posted:So a Jainist monk would commend him for his consumption of lentils but condemn him for eating radishes. I was thinking that he was killing those radishes by pulling them up
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Oasx posted:I am surprised that nobody mentioned that the opening was a huge Lost reference. 2/10 no exercise bike
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I just watched Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade this past weekend, but I'd like to think I would've immediately clocked Eleanor's reference to "with any luck, he's got the Grail already" anyway. Something I just realized while listening to the podcast, I missed the change in Janet's "bing" as they voided away, but I also didn't realize that this was the first time we actually saw what it looks like, since there was no camera cut!
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Harrow posted:What I find interesting her is the prohibition against eggs but the allowance of milk. ![]() Bulls are useful to people that don't own tractors and cows are sacred to Hindus. It is flat-out illegal to slaughter cows in much of India, up to life in prison in some states, and that's if you're lucky enough to be arrested instead of beaten to death by an angry mob. Remember that the Jains are a religion, not just radical utilitarians, so when they talk about milk and eggs they sometimes talk like this: quote:Eggs are the progeny of five-sensed beings. Food produced out of eggs is clearly flesh food. Some people argue that a vegetarian egg cannot give birth to a child; it is lifeless. This statement is untrue because it is a product of the sexual organ of the hen. So not only is it impure but it also increases in size after birth and does not become rotten. Therefore it is alive, though it may not possess the capacity to evolve form, but in no way can it be treated as lifeless. Gobbeldygook fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Nov 16, 2018 |
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https://i.imgur.com/M42VBXl.mp4 https://i.imgur.com/qRVIsP6.mp4
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I love everyone in this cast so much
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Gobbeldygook posted:
This is a very clear and understandable explanation and that makes a ton of sense, thanks!
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This just looks like more of the 4 humans teaching Michael to me ![]()
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Heh, I recognized Michael McKean by the back of his head.
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Kristen grabbing D'Arcy's hand in glee ![]()
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- oh noooooo, molotovs can't solve everything ![]() - what an amazing fight scene - what a REALLY amazing fight scene - oh no janet ![]() - "No no no, Michael, you're confused. Evidence isn't a good thing that you want, it's a bad thing that you have to destroy or you go to jail."
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Gobbeldygook posted:
what about the virtue vegans, who hold that it's okay as long as you wish the best for the bees
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Combat Pretzel posted:Heh, I recognized Michael McKean by the back of his head. I honestly wonder if part of the reason he was shortlisted for Doug was because Doug's life makes him oddly similar to Chuck McGill.
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Jason is incredibly talented at making Molotovs, using them though..
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Combat Pretzel posted:Heh, I recognized Michael McKean by the back of his head. Me too, it's a rare thing but he's just so recognisable. And yea I was thinking of jains when he pulled up the radishes. Think of all the insects he might inadvertently kill!
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Oasx posted:I am surprised that nobody mentioned that the opening was a huge Lost reference. pwn posted:I only pick these nits because,
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LividLiquid posted:Once I saw Mama Cass's name on the eight track, I knew what was happening. nope https://www.dictionary.com/browse/nitpick
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# ? Feb 19, 2025 14:12 |
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I think Doug wouldn't make it to the Good Place based on what's been described by the show. He's shooting for a neutral score it seems. You have to actively engage in doing good to get points, not just avoid doing bad by living like a hermit.
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