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Ho, jeez. I'm so disappointed I don't get to see this.
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pwn posted:Oh my god, I never even considered it, but of course the i mean lincoln was responsible for the deaths of many native americans
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Taear posted:Forgetting the "are you asking if Lincoln lived longer than 512 years ago" because god I hope you're not asking that, he wouldn't qualify because he didn't do anything good with good intentions. Also, I ask because Michael actually says at one point that none of the Presidents except Lincoln got in. Now, he is a demon and could have been lying, but we did also see that ending slavery is like +8 billion, which offsets the -6 billion of committing genocide on American Indians.
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Sub Rosa posted:512 years ago from our present isn't 512 years ago from the present of the show because they have been tortured for some centuries by now, even before we get into Jeremy Bearamy time and how that could effect how we interpret what is meant by no one has gotten into the good place in that long.
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In that very same episode, the accountant references Doug Forcett being alive and the same, approximate age we saw him as. The present is the present. Stop overthinking it.
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emgeejay posted:oh, this is the Bad Place
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Sub Rosa posted:512 years ago from our present isn't 512 years ago from the present of the show because they have been tortured for some centuries by now, even before we get into Jeremy Bearamy time and how that could effect how we interpret what is meant by no one has gotten into the good place in that long. I don’t want to go all “well actually...” with this but Lincoln outside of the terrible execution of individuals involved in the Dakota uprising in Minnesota was extremely hands off on Native issues during his administration. Although you could argue that this is a point against him since a lot of the responsibilities for Native affairs in the civil war era got handed off from the fairly aloof federal government to the bloodthirsty and murderous white local power bases and militias who both were far more incompetent and far more murderous (ie the Sand Creek Massacre and Col. Chivington).
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emgeejay posted:oh, this is the Bad Place
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emgeejay posted:oh, this is the Bad Place
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The only president who had a good presidency was Harrison.
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Teddy Roosevelt had guinea pigs named Fighting Bob Evans and Father O'Grady so those have got to be worth about a million points each
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Finally caught up with this thread and the show and holy poo poo this is some great TV. Bring on ore The Good Place!
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Hi. I’m not reading the thread to avoid spoilers, but I wanted to say that I binged season 1 & 2 over the last two days and I have no loving clue how they are going to continue this show. I’m constantly thinking of LOST, and especially how much better this show is than LOST (especially since we don’t deal with Kate episodes).
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Mordiceius posted:I’m constantly thinking of LOST, and especially how much better this show is than LOST (especially since we don’t deal with Kate episodes). Counterpoint: No Desmond episodes.
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Mordiceius posted:Hi. I’m not reading the thread to avoid spoilers, but I wanted to say that I binged season 1 & 2 over the last two days and I have no loving clue how they are going to continue this show. There'll be an episode where you'll want to rush in and excitedly tell us as soon as you've watched it. Please do so. Edit: Doubly so if you've watched Westworld
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CPColin posted:Counterpoint: No Desmond episodes. Countercounterpoint: we got part of a Desmond episode.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Edit: Doubly so if you've watched Westworld Wait, what's this referring to? I guess stick it in a spoiler tag to be safe.
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Mordiceius posted:Hi. I’m not reading the thread to avoid spoilers, but I wanted to say that I binged season 1 & 2 over the last two days and I have no loving clue how they are going to continue this show. It's so tough recommending this show to people because if you just tell them it's Kristen Bell going to heaven it doesn't really sell it. But if you say it's a comedic better written Lost you blow it for them. I like Kristen Bell and Ted Danson but didn't watch the show just because the premise seemed like a lame network comedy. It took hearing about the twist at the end of the first season to get me to watch, but I don't want to spoil that for others. Even just hearing there is a twist kinda spoils it because then you're looking for it.
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1glitch0 posted:It's so tough recommending this show to people because if you just tell them it's Kristen Bell going to heaven it doesn't really sell it. But if you say it's a comedic better written Lost you blow it for them. I like Kristen Bell and Ted Danson but didn't watch the show just because the premise seemed like a lame network comedy. It took hearing about the twist at the end of the first season to get me to watch, but I don't want to spoil that for others. Even just hearing there is a twist kinda spoils it because then you're looking for it. I agree with all of this. I didn’t watch it because on the face of it it sounds dumb. It’s absolutely not though and I’m so glad I picked it up. I also agree about the twist I definitely didn’t see it coming and it was a great surprise when it did. It’s lost but it doesn’t suck and it’s funny and heartwarming.
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1glitch0 posted:It's so tough recommending this show to people because if you just tell them it's Kristen Bell going to heaven it doesn't really sell it. But if you say it's a comedic better written Lost you blow it for them. I like Kristen Bell and Ted Danson but didn't watch the show just because the premise seemed like a lame network comedy. It took hearing about the twist at the end of the first season to get me to watch, but I don't want to spoil that for others. Even just hearing there is a twist kinda spoils it because then you're looking for it. i've been trying to sell it to friends of mine who went to liberal arts colleges as "those humanities classes we had to take, but with fart jokes" and boy do i still have nobody to talk to irl about this show
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For what it's worth, it was sold to me (with no knowledge of the twist) as "It's a really funny, clever comedy about a woman who accidentally gets into heaven and tries to keep anybody from finding out she shouldn't be there."
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Jerusalem posted:For what it's worth, it was sold to me (with no knowledge of the twist) as "It's a really funny, clever comedy about a woman who accidentally gets into heaven and tries to keep anybody from finding out she shouldn't be there."
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Jerusalem posted:For what it's worth, it was sold to me (with no knowledge of the twist) as "It's a really funny, clever comedy about a woman who accidentally gets into heaven and tries to keep anybody from finding out she shouldn't be there." Cool. Sold.
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1glitch0 posted:It's so tough recommending this show to people because if you just tell them it's Kristen Bell going to heaven it doesn't really sell it. But if you say it's a comedic better written Lost you blow it for them. I like Kristen Bell and Ted Danson but didn't watch the show just because the premise seemed like a lame network comedy. It took hearing about the twist at the end of the first season to get me to watch, but I don't want to spoil that for others. Even just hearing there is a twist kinda spoils it because then you're looking for it. So yeah, I kind of had the first season twist spoiled for me (only very very very very vaguely) by some people discussing the show in a Discord channel. So I knew a little of the twist coming up, but not too much and none of the context. The twist still blew my mind. I think describing it as a comedic show that is basically doing LOST but better, is a fine way of describing it. Yes, it slightly reduces a bit of the surprise, but I don't think anyone will expect the degree and speed to which the show progresses. One thing that I appreciate is that no episodes are 100% skippable. Generally what I expect out of a standard season of 99% of network TV shows is: episode 1 (and often 2) is important "core" plot specific, 2 episodes mid-season are "core" plot specific, then the season finale. This show is not like that at all. Mid-way through season 2 (around episode 8/9 when Shawn returned), I felt like the show had to be right at the end of the season because that's how most shows do things. Instead, I was only 2/3 through the season. Most shows play it super safe and that status quo is not changed dramatically episode to episode and between the place the season premiere starts and the season finale ends are often dramatically different but not too dramatically different. During at least half of the episodes in season 2, my wife and I would look at each other and say "I don't know how they continue the show from here." because it feels like every few episodes, the entire premise of the show changes. The show covers arcs that most shows would draw out into a full 20 episode season in 3 episodes.
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LividLiquid posted:It has Kirsten Bell and Ted Danson and it's made by one of the Parks and Rec guys. Yeah, much like NBC itself, I was hooked by "Mike Schur wants to do another show."
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Mordiceius posted:So yeah, I kind of had the first season twist spoiled for me (only very very very very vaguely) by some people discussing the show in a Discord channel. So I knew a little of the twist coming up, but not too much and none of the context. The twist still blew my mind. I have the utmost respect for Mike Schur because the breakneck pace of the show feels like a side effect of the showrunner having plotted out the story from beginning to end and having enough success under his belt to avoid changing things due to popularity.
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Jerusalem posted:For what it's worth, it was sold to me (with no knowledge of the twist) as "It's a really funny, clever comedy about a woman who accidentally gets into heaven and tries to keep anybody from finding out she shouldn't be there." That's a pretty good way to do it.
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This show is so good. I daresay it's my favorite Schur Schow
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1glitch0 posted:That's a pretty good way to do it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfBgT5djaQw Obviously this is long-form, but the on-air promos hit all the same beats: You died, you’re in the Good Place, I’m not supposed to be here, why can’t I say “fork” I have been working on convincing a friend to watch it, but she doesn’t like Kristin Bell. I just can’t even
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pwn posted:I have been working on convincing a friend to watch it, but she doesn’t like Kristin Bell. I just can’t even
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I tell people the show has "a lot of twists and turns," which encourages them to avoid spoilers without giving the game away. (Also, it's true for pretty much every episode of season 1 / this show)
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LividLiquid posted:But they used to be friends! It was a long time ago.
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I like to describe it to people as a sitcom that's plotted like a prestige drama.
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So I just had a theory and it could be completely disproven later as I progress through Season 3 as I've only seen the two-episode season premiere. I was thinking about Michael and how so far, since the four humans were sent back to the human world and back to life, Michael has constantly interfered. But then I thought deeper than that... I realized you could call it "interfering" but what he has really done is exactly what he suggested "giving a nudge in the right direction." Do you know who else does that? Guardian loving Angels. I'm starting to think this whole thing is a test for Michael to see if he is worthy of becoming an angel. Now, I'm probably completely wrong, but this is the first time I've come up with an idea that I feel is a good enough twist that this show would do. My other speculation is that we are going full 999/Nonary Games and moving full steam ahead into parallel dimensions.
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pwn posted:she doesn’t like Kristin Bell That's weird, I understand every individual word of this sentence and yet put together in that order they make no sense at all 
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