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a7m2
Jul 9, 2012


Tabletops posted:

Is now a good time to jump in? Or should I wait for some patches

Now's good. The game really shaped up

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Tabletops
Jan 27, 2014

anime

a7m2 posted:

Now's good. The game really shaped up

Cool, I know the dlc just released so wasn’t sure how uhh well that was running yet. Thanks!

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




Ass_Burgerer posted:

Plus, there's a FREE medium combat ship there for you to capture and use (can't capture it, though, because capturing ships is bugged currently, and even if you can manage to capture it with a marine, the turrets will never work because it's bugged).
... I can't, like, sell the turrets and then buy new ones or anything?

3
Aug 26, 2006

The Magic Number




College Slice

RBA Starblade posted:

If you hire a marine you can also just right click Claim and the guy will hop out and pilot it for you.

Though keep in mind, boarding an unclaimed ship with marines tends to blow up random bits and deal hull damage for some reason. Claiming it through a data link does not, but there is a bug in the game currently that randomly stops the leaks from showing up on unclaimed ships.

ZombyDog
Jul 11, 2001

Ere to fix yer gubbinz


3 posted:

Though keep in mind, boarding an unclaimed ship with marines tends to blow up random bits and deal hull damage for some reason. Claiming it through a data link does not, but there is a bug in the game currently that randomly stops the leaks from showing up on unclaimed ships.
The suggested fix was to save and then reload your game, but I still had to resort to a single marine for my Syn.

Krogort
Oct 27, 2013


3 Paranid L miners can't keep up with my 8 modules hull part factory, is this to be expected or are they getting stuck in ressource probe shenanigans ?
The factory is in the Second Contact sector right between Argon Prime and HOP space so it's not like there are no asteroid around.

Krogort fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Mar 25, 2021

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




No sign of an unclaimed ship at the mission so :shrug:

EDIT: a mission just gave me a free freighter, so how do I assign it to my HQ to squire research materials?

Zereth fucked around with this message at 07:25 on Mar 25, 2021

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

I accept your surrender



:stare:

I think I'm going to excuse myself. I think that Asgard can handle this on its own.

Zereth posted:

No sign of an unclaimed ship at the mission so :shrug:

EDIT: a mission just gave me a free freighter, so how do I assign it to my HQ to squire research materials?

Select freighter, right click HQ, trade for commander. Needs a station manager.

Duodecimal
Dec 27, 2012

Still stupid

Zereth posted:

... I can't, like, sell the turrets and then buy new ones or anything?

You can go do a shipyard/warf for upgrades and select empty slots to sell them and keep the ship.

Could be wrong but selling the ship includes cargo but I think they changed that? Ego didn't like people being able to sell nvidium easily or something? Pretty sure selling the whole ship gives you the money for equipment too.

[edit] nevermind, see that you're talking about a specific special ship, so no idea - if you can upgrade at all though you ought to get refunds for the trade-in

Duodecimal fucked around with this message at 08:51 on Mar 25, 2021

a7m2
Jul 9, 2012


Tabletops posted:

Cool, I know the dlc just released so wasn’t sure how uhh well that was running yet. Thanks!

There are still some minor bugs here and there but I've personally encountered nothing that a restart didn't fix, and quite infrequently at that. The 4.0 patch that came along with the expansion pack really did a lot. X games always need a few major patches to get going and while X4's 3.0 was pretty good, it still had some issues. Now I don't really have any complaints

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

I accept your surrender

Speaking of bugs, my I was wondering why my factories in Grand Exchange were always out of ore.

Turns out my miners prefer to mine in Antigone Memorial.

The way miners are just nuts in their target selection definitely needs a fix.

a7m2
Jul 9, 2012


Antigravitas posted:

Speaking of bugs, my I was wondering why my factories in Grand Exchange were always out of ore.

Turns out my miners prefer to mine in Antigone Memorial.

The way miners are just nuts in their target selection definitely needs a fix.

oh yeah i forgot about this but this is definitely an annoying bug that i've encountered too

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It is a powerful visual metaphor for my posting.


I recommend blacklisting your miners to the sector the station is in (or somewhere nearby that has the resources) because yeah they are apparently in love with taking the scenic route.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




Is there some way to find that data leaks are there to look for other than "wander slowly around stations in scan mode"?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It is a powerful visual metaphor for my posting.


They are audible and there is also a small equalizer that shows up when you are near one, and gets bigger the closer you are, as well as shifting left and right to indicate directionality.

sloppy portmanteau
Feb 4, 2019


OwlFancier posted:

I recommend blacklisting your miners to the sector the station is in (or somewhere nearby that has the resources) because yeah they are apparently in love with taking the scenic route.

Fun fact, your blacklists can get overridden. My Computronic Substrate factory in Gaian Prophecy was blacklisted to only mine in that sector (Sector Activities restriction on all sectors with exception on Gaian Prophecy). It filled up on silicon just fine but they refused to mine any ore there, once the silicon was completely filled up the miners hung around for a while trying to find ore and suddenly they left the sector to mine in Antigone Memorial. Checking the blacklist again the Gaian Prophecy exception was just gone. At first I thought I just messed it up but this happened a few times after re-enabling it.

Zereth posted:

Is there some way to find that data leaks are there to look for other than "wander slowly around stations in scan mode"?

OwlFancier posted:

They are audible and there is also a small equalizer that shows up when you are near one, and gets bigger the closer you are, as well as shifting left and right to indicate directionality.

Make sure to have the signal leak indicator setting on under accessibility options in order to see that equalizer.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




OwlFancier posted:

They are audible and there is also a small equalizer that shows up when you are near one, and gets bigger the closer you are, as well as shifting left and right to indicate directionality.

sloppy portmanteau posted:

Make sure to have the signal leak indicator setting on under accessibility options in order to see that equalizer.
Yeah, but is there a way to know to look for those in the first place? Stations are pretty big and I don't see a way to distinguish "here's a thing that might give you a module" from "here's a random mission".

EDIT: Is there a command to sell everything a ship has to a station :staredog: like if i had a suitable ship on hand could I just tell it to collect drops then sell to the station on repeat

Zereth fucked around with this message at 12:01 on Mar 25, 2021

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It is a powerful visual metaphor for my posting.


The mission ones have a sort of sparkler effect on the end of an antenna, and you can hear a voice in them, the data leaks have a glowing circle, are attached to a broken bit of metal, and are just electronic noise.

RBA Starblade
Apr 27, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester


Antigravitas posted:



:stare:

I think I'm going to excuse myself. I think that Asgard can handle this on its own.


Select freighter, right click HQ, trade for commander. Needs a station manager.

Well that answers the fleet size question I had

ughhhh
Oct 17, 2012



Does station sabotage go towards affecting the market? Can I go around sabotaging all the little hullparts and claytronics factory on my side of the universe to artificially increase the profitsss?

Slickdrac
Oct 5, 2007

Keeper of the Secret


ughhhh posted:

Does station sabotage go towards affecting the market? Can I go around sabotaging all the little hullparts and claytronics factory on my side of the universe to artificially increase the profitsss?

Yep! All the wares are only created by factories, so if you prevent the factories from making them, then they won't exist to purchase unless you create them. And factories don't just grow out of nothing like they did in X3, if you blow them up and the AI wants to create a new one, the building components need to be provided to build it.

This is most clear if you wipe out the Xenon, they will create blueprints all around that are never fulfilled because no Xenon exist to fulfill them and you will not see Xenon again.

The only exception to this is SCA pirates, who do get created out of nothing (unless the exact code means they just repurpose an existing ship and flip faction, but I think they are just spawned so there is always some sort of danger)

sloppy portmanteau
Feb 4, 2019


Any tips on getting my fleet to actually protect my miners? I have them on patrol but they just fly around while miners get destroyed a few dozen km away by KHK.

queeb
Jun 10, 2004

m





i didnt have much luck with patrol, but i grabbed the reaction force mod and its worked perfectly. park them in a sector, give them a radius of sectors to defend, if a ship gets attacked they'll fly to it and rescue it and then return.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2069655173

Travic
May 27, 2007

Getting nowhere fast


Just found this while surfing X4 videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzVgsi57bZU

Genius.

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012

I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal

I hate cockpits obscuring my vision. I swear I've got rid of them before now but maybe I'm thinking of Rebirth. (I know about hiding the HUD, but I mind that less anyway.)

Which ships would people recommend for cockpit-haters?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It is a powerful visual metaphor for my posting.


Slickdrac posted:

Yep! All the wares are only created by factories, so if you prevent the factories from making them, then they won't exist to purchase unless you create them. And factories don't just grow out of nothing like they did in X3, if you blow them up and the AI wants to create a new one, the building components need to be provided to build it.

This is most clear if you wipe out the Xenon, they will create blueprints all around that are never fulfilled because no Xenon exist to fulfill them and you will not see Xenon again.

The only exception to this is SCA pirates, who do get created out of nothing (unless the exact code means they just repurpose an existing ship and flip faction, but I think they are just spawned so there is always some sort of danger)

It's also quite clear with ZYA because their resource sectors are all in the northwest, while their production centers are in the north, so they regularly get cut off from all their ore inputs and their economy stalls and they die. I'm currently trying to set up a forwarding base so I can shift some ship parts their way.

sloppy portmanteau posted:

Any tips on getting my fleet to actually protect my miners? I have them on patrol but they just fly around while miners get destroyed a few dozen km away by KHK.

I'm sure it used to be that if you set them to defend the station then the manager would organize escorts for traders using the defence force, but they don't seem to do that any more.

Oh dear me posted:

I hate cockpits obscuring my vision. I swear I've got rid of them before now but maybe I'm thinking of Rebirth. (I know about hiding the HUD, but I mind that less anyway.)

Which ships would people recommend for cockpit-haters?

Press CTRL and H. Shift H hides the hud.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Mar 25, 2021

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012

I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal

OwlFancier posted:

Press CTRL and H. Shift H hides the hud.

Wtf, I tried that a dozen times yesterday. But today it works, so thank you very much x

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation. I actually named my daughter after the Pink ranger and will provide proof if challenged.


Ive a Syn as my main ship. What would you all recommend as underlings assigned to defend in my fleet? Have two Jians two Katanas atm

sloppy portmanteau
Feb 4, 2019


queeb posted:

i didnt have much luck with patrol, but i grabbed the reaction force mod and its worked perfectly. park them in a sector, give them a radius of sectors to defend, if a ship gets attacked they'll fly to it and rescue it and then return.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2069655173

This looks so perfect. Unfortunately the plan is to keep this run vanilla to try out the online features, if they ever get re-enabled that is.

ughhhh
Oct 17, 2012



OwlFancier posted:

Press CTRL and H. Shift H hides the hud.

While great, ctrl H also hides certain hud elements such as signal indicators and color indicator of the mode. Speaking of his, what's the small sphere under the shield indicator on the right of speed indicator?

Travic
May 27, 2007

Getting nowhere fast


So I'm about to finish the Paranid plot and I'm at the point where I decide if I'm going to blow up the peace talks or not. I set up the bombs and try to fly out, but then game assumes I'm saving the Paranid. So I try blowing up the bombs before I get out and it kills me. How do I successfully destroy the monument?

:EDIT: nvm. Figured it out. Hope I made the right choice.

Travic fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Mar 25, 2021

RBA Starblade
Apr 27, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester


Why do my fighters say they can have 10 docked ships? Can they use drones too?

ughhhh
Oct 17, 2012



^^^Which fighter? Some fighters can load laser towers and drones I think.

I can't find a list of plots you can follow anywhere online, if y'all could help me fill it out. So far I can found:

PHQ plot
Hatikvas plot
Paranid plot (need to finish HAT plot to start)
Split plot (need to finish HAT plot to start)

Assuming all the races have a plot associated with it and follow up from Dal Busta?

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Just the tip!



Exciting Lemon

Someone on Reddit made a great plot flowchart, spoilers though:
https://old.reddit.com/r/X4Foundations/comments/majim7/plots_flowchart_vague_but_fairly_major_plot/

Tabletops
Jan 27, 2014

anime

anyone know what may be causing this?
https://streamable.com/24rm8c

i cleaned my audio drivers, tried newest realteks, tried windows defaults, reset my audio quality, updated my videocard drivers

the first couple times i ran the game it just didnt have audio at all, after a system restart it just sounds like this. i'm baffled.

sloppy portmanteau
Feb 4, 2019


The terrans want me to build a Tokyo with an L Bolt turret. It looks to me like the Tokyo can only equip Ms. Am I missing something?

queeb
Jun 10, 2004

m





sloppy portmanteau posted:

The terrans want me to build a Tokyo with an L Bolt turret. It looks to me like the Tokyo can only equip Ms. Am I missing something?


bug, theyve confirmed its going to be fixed next update

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything




Fun Shoe

Got some absolutely weird bug with the Terran plot (project genesis start.)

I did the whole signing up to help with the Terran militia when I got my rep to 10 and the initial steps but now I'm supposed to visit Mars and have no access.

I never got any offer for a promotion and my reputation is already 16. I can't buy anything from the faction rep in regards to licenses or access. Am I missing something or should I try editing them in?

Tabletops
Jan 27, 2014

anime

Tabletops posted:

anyone know what may be causing this?
https://streamable.com/24rm8c

i cleaned my audio drivers, tried newest realteks, tried windows defaults, reset my audio quality, updated my videocard drivers

the first couple times i ran the game it just didnt have audio at all, after a system restart it just sounds like this. i'm baffled.

figured it out thanks to a redditer, pointed me to this thread on the official forums
https://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=5014889#p5014889.

I used Grok's sound overhaul for Stalker:Anomaly which changes some settings to openAL, which x4 uses.

Apparently makes it all scratchy and poo poo, I tried resetting the settings to default but it was still bad. dropped the bin file from the overhaul in x4's directory, identical to how it's installed for stalker, and it worked again. what a weird, obscure thing that I'm very glad other people figured out.

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RBA Starblade
Apr 27, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester


I'm not seeing the next Terran plot trigger, what're the requirements? I just got the message that the planet is being resettled

ughhhh posted:

^^^Which fighter? Some fighters can load laser towers and drones I think.

I can't find a list of plots you can follow anywhere online, if y'all could help me fill it out. So far I can found:

PHQ plot
Hatikvas plot
Paranid plot (need to finish HAT plot to start)
Split plot (need to finish HAT plot to start)

Assuming all the races have a plot associated with it and follow up from Dal Busta?

All of them, weirdly, I didn't know towers counted though

RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Mar 26, 2021

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