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Rubber Chicken posted:Just because the Tuskens were there before certain others doesn't mean they're the natives any more than white people complaining about immigrants irl are native North Americans Yeah and if you really think about it, the Fremen aren’t REALLY native to Arrakis either,
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1st AD posted:Yeah and if you really think about it, the Fremen aren’t REALLY native to Arrakis either, I know you're mocking but I don't think there were other people there when the first humans came to Arrakis because there aren't intelligent aliens in Dune There's all kinds of aliens on Tatooine We know the Tuskens were around for a long while. It seems the Jawas were too. I just didn't recall that humans were explicitly a recent arrival. The whole universe seems pretty egalitarian until the Empire (which is obviously Nazi coded). I mean, as much as a capitalist democratic republic is likely to be. If you had the means, nobody seemed to turn you away because you were a weird species, a different gender, or sometimes even a droid (Droid rights is a totally different  )
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If you think about it the zensunni wanderers got to arrakis via salusa secundus, so they're all actually sardaukar
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Jun 22, 2024 04:46
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The Tuskens and Jawas were there when the Rakatan was a thing, who I'm pretty sure are like the first space faring race and galaxy spanning empire.
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Dexo posted:The Tuskens and Jawas were there when the Rakatan was a thing, who I'm pretty sure are like the first space faring race and galaxy spanning empire. Wasn't really aware of them. Interesting how common ancient vanished progenitor race is as a scifi concept If we're using BoBF to recharacterize ANH because it's canon, that does make me wonder if that os still canon though I don't have a problem with the idea of the Republic conceptually being an idea spread by humans into new (to them) areas. It's actually a bit like the Federation if you look at it that way, although preposterously old. Humans in fiction often fill that role, basically the same in most high fantasy stuff as well.
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Thinking that maybe they're doing this pre prequel show to introduce a new faction of force users to be even more reclusive than the sith So that they'll have something new, at least in name, to challenge Rey's new Jedi in the post sequel era But they don't want it to come completely from nowhere or have to spend much time to explain it in a movie (or it's a trial balloon for this idea)
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Jun 22, 2024 05:44
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Rubber Chicken posted:I know you're mocking but I don't think there were other people there when the first humans came to Arrakis because there aren't intelligent aliens in Dune This is where media literacy comes into play. Stories (whether film, tv, novels, etc) communicate all kinds of information through context, both in-universe and from clear parallels to the real world. The Tusken Raiders (or Sand People) are clearly, clearly, coded as representative of native peoples. This was mostly detrimental in the original movie but has taken on a different vibe in more recent stuff like the book of boba Fett. The question of whether they are ACTUALLY native or if they arrived thousands of years ago, is an argument about a wookiepedia entry. It's not actually germane to the experience of watching and understanding any of these stories.
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Jun 22, 2024 13:22
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Vinylshadow posted:Hope it tastes good This isn't loving. His species use eggs, and not like a birdo
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Jun 22, 2024 13:55
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HootTheOwl posted:This isn't loving. You don’t kiss during love making?
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Jun 22, 2024 14:28
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I'm not gonna lie, by the end of Clone Wars I started to unironically enjoy Jar Jar. It's great when he has an exasperated straight-man to play off of his bullshit.The arc with Mace Windu is the peak for this, but they do good pairings with like C-3PO, Obi-Wan, etc and I started smiling like an idiot at his dumb antics.
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Jun 22, 2024 14:38
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I always enjoyed jar jar. Since the phantom menace. But I realize I’m built different
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Tender Bender posted:I'm not gonna lie, by the end of Clone Wars I started to unironically enjoy Jar Jar. It's great when he has an exasperated straight-man to play off of his bullshit.The arc with Mace Windu is the peak for this, but they do good pairings with like C-3PO, Obi-Wan, etc and I started smiling like an idiot at his dumb antics. Also more often than not his bumbling usually winds up saving the day (though we saw that a bit in TPM as well)
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Jun 22, 2024 15:03
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Marsupial Ape posted:You don’t kiss during love making? I didn't say love making. I said loving. Don't try and make me out to be the weird one in the topic of Gungan loving
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Finally caught up. So far this show is great and I’m howling at the fuckboys who think the show is abominable because they changed the non-canon age of a minor background character, and not because said fuckboys are still upset about the non-white-male-centered cast. I’m even more convinced that the master is (are we spoiling speculation?) Indara. The way they did their little wrist flick was similar to Indara’s force use in episode I, they have a very slight frame and slender hands, and the characters were VERY insistent on frequently referring to the master as he/him. Obviously there’s the chance of the master being Qimir, but that seems like a little too obvious of a misdirect.
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Jun 22, 2024 17:14
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Hazo posted:
See, I can’t buy into that, I’m assuming that in-universe other people (the bartender?) confirmed and reported her death and that’s how the Jedi Order even know about it, and unless there’s a big no-context flashback/reveal I don’t know why Indara would have turned to the dark side anyway and, like, orchestrated her own faux assassination at the hands of someone who seemingly had a vested interest in her actually honest to god genuinely being dead. Granted your theory would justify more Carrie Ann Moss instead of just squandering her as the show has done so far, but it still doesn’t add up for me.
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Jun 22, 2024 21:14
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One clue to the bad guy's identity that I haven't seen anyone talk about is how the wookiee jedi was killed. In his chair, no sign of struggle or resistance, sliced from the front so he wasn't sneaked up on. It could suggest that it's indara since he had his guard down. It could suggest it's the witch mom and he accept her killing him in the same way torbin did. Or it could mean absolutely nothing and never have any significance in the mystery.
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Jun 22, 2024 21:30
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Marsupial Ape posted:You don’t kiss during love making? Never kissed nobody and never will 😓
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Marsupial Ape posted:You don’t kiss during love making? "When I'm being hosed, I like to get kissed on the mouth." - Jar Jar Binks in Dog Day Afternoon.
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Lister posted:indara. Been my called for since before the show aired, and we never did see the body... (Jedi do have a habit of just disappearing when you kill them, the bar tender saw her get stabbed in the heart and just assumed) It would be funny for all the "one knife!? People survive getting stabbed all the time!" Morons to leave been right all along only to have given up because what they thought was a plot hole was actually a clue
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The one hint that Darth Manny is secretly Permissive Mom is when the masked figure uses her trademark Hazo posted:Finally caught up. So far this show is great and I’m howling at the fuckboys who think the show is abominable because they changed the non-canon age of a minor background character, and not because said fuckboys are still upset about the non-white-male-centered cast. I haven’t run into a whit of that trash because I aggressively curate my recommendations, but Acoolyte is refreshingly one of the first shows to get “woke” accusations that actually is politically threatening. I think even with Andor, neofascists have no problem seeing themselves as the cool revolutionaries doing the heists and the jailbreaks and protecting their culture against the decadent forces of evil or whatever. Meanwhile, Reza’s grievances in Obiwan Show are poorly conveyed even where valid and then she dips onto literally kidnapping & threatening children. With Acoolyte, we not only have these gay witches as the sympathetic characters, but we know in advance that they “fail”. Not only do they fail, but they’re uncool in their defeat. Like, they spend their days baking cookies and singing songs to the moon - unambiguously in the right, barring some kind of ridiculously bad-taste twist. That’s scary to regressives. And they don’t have recourse to “ironically” siding with the fascists, because the Jedi are woke too! A clear case of “more women guards!” multicultural police force. So Acoolyte good, basically. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Jun 22, 2024 |
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Marsupial Ape posted:I want one cool Gungan character. Like Zeb level fun to have in the group. We can make new, better Gungan memories. The badass green Gungan from Episode I was really cool. He was very competent and with it and did his best despite Jar Jar actively hobbling him in the final battle. He should have been the hero Gungan of Ep 1 and beyond. That dude ruled.
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Tender Bender posted:I'm not gonna lie, by the end of Clone Wars I started to unironically enjoy Jar Jar. It's great when he has an exasperated straight-man to play off of his bullshit.The arc with Mace Windu is the peak for this, but they do good pairings with like C-3PO, Obi-Wan, etc and I started smiling like an idiot at his dumb antics. I got a good laugh out of the episode where some clone troopers weaponize his incompetence to take down a column of tanks.
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Xenomrph posted:See, I can’t buy into that, I’m assuming that in-universe other people (the bartender?) confirmed and reported her death and that’s how the Jedi Order even know about it, and unless there’s a big no-context flashback/reveal I don’t know why Indara would have turned to the dark side anyway and, like, orchestrated her own faux assassination at the hands of someone who seemingly had a vested interest in her actually honest to god genuinely being dead. That’s an excellent point as well. But it’s entirely conceivable that the bartender took off for safety as soon as Mae left. After all, they only barely escaped because Mae didn’t want to murder a child just to leave no witnesses (part of me thought maybe leaving the bartender alive was was intentional so they would pin it on Osha, but a) she seemed fully ready to murder the bartender and b) she genuinely didn’t seem to think Osha was alive). And for your second part about Moss, that’s another reason I’m leaning towards that theory. It would justify having Moss in so much promo material. Of course it could all be a disastrously mismanaged story and marketing, but I’m really holding out hope that Headland and the other show execs know what they’re doing and are being very deliberate with their storytelling decisions, like including Ki-Adi Mundi in a mystery involving what the audience thinks is a Sith when his most famous line is saying “I personally know there hasn’t been a Sith in a thousand years.”
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Like, they spend their days baking cookies and singing songs to the moon - unambiguously in the right, barring some kind of ridiculously bad-taste twist. That’s scary to regressives. Artist’s rendition of a galaxy without Jedi. NSFW for historical accuracy. 
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exmarx posted:i thought this episode was worse than the first couple. what's up with the dance-from-the-oa force ritual. why is every shot centred in the frame. The OA was too good for this Earth.
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Boris Galerkin posted:The OA was too good for this Earth. I watched the first season before I got into all the antique occult bullshit that I know about, now. I’m afraid to go back and over analyze it. Marsupial Ape fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Jun 23, 2024 |
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nine-gear crow posted:The badass green Gungan from Episode I was really cool. He was very competent and with it and did his best despite Jar Jar actively hobbling him in the final battle. He should have been the hero Gungan of Ep 1 and beyond. That dude ruled. Captain Tarpals is grey, and Binks never hobbles him. Jar jar personally defeats a platoon worth of battle droids, a few even on purpose!
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Blood Boils posted:Captain Tarpals is grey, and Binks never hobbles him. Jar jar personally defeats a platoon worth of battle droids, a few even on purpose! I forget, do we ever see that guy again like in TCW or something?
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Larryb posted:I forget, do we ever see that guy again like in TCW or something? Tarpals? He goes out like a loving champion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-4VCjkbucs
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zoux posted:Well the thing is that only a sith deals in absolutes. Yoda: Do, or do not. There is no try.
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Why is this show rated so low on imdb? I watched the first episode and it’s fine i guess. Not a 3/10 bad, but not that overly riveting or offensive either. Has this upset the youtube gronks again?
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Xenomrph posted:See, I can’t buy into that, I’m assuming that in-universe other people (the bartender?) confirmed and reported her death and that’s how the Jedi Order even know about it, and unless there’s a big no-context flashback/reveal I don’t know why Indara would have turned to the dark side anyway and, like, orchestrated her own faux assassination at the hands of someone who seemingly had a vested interest in her actually honest to god genuinely being dead. I'd love more Carrie-Anne Moss, but the theory makes no sense. Or, rather it only makes sense in a 'this is a TV universe not a real one and people stop existing when the camera is no longer on them" kind of way. Does anyone think the Jedi wouldn't send a big group out to collect her body? Given she was a Jedi, her body would have been treated like a high ranking dignitary - which she was - and given the best of care, big funeral and all that. Not, "Some lady died in the local pub. I ran off because I didn't want to get stabbed and when I got back the body was gone. Nothing to worry about there, I suppose. Just call up the local Jedi depository and tell them a respected master is dead, but not tell them the body vanished. I'm sure they won't send anyone around to check that a literal master Jedi was just publicly murdered. Yeah, I'll just tell them we put the body in the trash compactor and the tentacle monster living in there ate it." Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Jun 23, 2024 |
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Yeah it's being review bombed due to having Black people in it (woke).
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toggle posted:Why is this show rated so low on imdb? I watched the first episode and it’s fine i guess. Not a 3/10 bad, but not that overly riveting or offensive either. Has this upset the youtube gronks again? Why is the popular move Acolytes suddenly being massively downvoted despite coming out in 2008? Concerted campaign by idiots, that's why.
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toggle posted:Why is this show rated so low on imdb? I watched the first episode and it’s fine i guess. Not a 3/10 bad, but not that overly riveting or offensive either. Has this upset the youtube gronks again? Because woke.
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Hazo posted:Of course it could all be a disastrously mismanaged story and marketing, but I’m really holding out hope that Headland and the other show execs know what they’re doing and are being very deliberate with their storytelling decisions, like including Ki-Adi Mundi in a mystery involving what the audience thinks is a Sith when his most famous line is saying “I personally know there hasn’t been a Sith in a thousand years.” 1) the Jedi sweep all this poo poo under the loving rug as soon as it's over because their big claim to fame is defeating the Sith or, 2) this is all some weird false-flag to get the Senate to give the Jedi more credits for Sith-hunting.
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toggle posted:Why is this show rated so low on imdb? I watched the first episode and it’s fine i guess. Not a 3/10 bad, but not that overly riveting or offensive either. Has this upset the youtube gronks again? Yes, the angry collective of neck hair on YouTube has put the fatwa out because black people and maybe a lesbian or two has infected their Star Wras again and it must be destroyed. Oh also they changed how old the guy with the penis head from the Prequels who was upset about the Droid attack on the Wookies was and now they're mailing pipebombs to Fandom wikis or some poo poo. It is absolutely deranged.
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nine-gear crow posted:
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Boris Galerkin posted:Wait what is this really a thing? https://m.imdb.com/news/ni64654728/ https://www.themarysue.com/what-happened-with-wookieepedia-answered/ https://screenrant.com/star-wars-ki-adi-mundi-age-retcon-controversy/ Basically people started defacing Wookiepedia and sending the mods and admins death threats more or less at the behest of the largest* Star Wars YouTuber, a dude under the handle Star Wars Theory, who has now said he's going to sue Wookiepedia and/or Fandom.com because of it because he is also an unhinged chud. Because the penis guy showed up for like 2 minutes in an episode. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Jun 23, 2024 |
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