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This series feels like it could been a 2 hour movie and not much would be lost. The current structure of “one episode of throat clearing followed by one episode of something happening” is wearing pretty thin.
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GigaPeon posted:For a hot second I thought they might be on the final planet from KOTOR, but I guess that’s “Unkown World”. A common mess up. The beaches on that one were more tropical, iirc. I'd love this show forever if the season ended with Qimir flying to the rebuilt Star Forge to meet his Rakata master.
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Jul 7, 2024 06:23
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General Dog posted:What does the “Unkown Planet” caption mean in the latest Acolyte episode? Unknown to the unseen editor of the text, unknown to OSHA as the POV character, or diagetically unknown to the rest of the galaxy? The planet is unknown in the context of Galactic history. Whoever wrote the opening text wrote it over a century after the events of the show, and they still haven't figured out where Darth Manny got his helmet.
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Jul 7, 2024 06:27
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Rubber Chicken posted:Ok? This feels like a non sequitur to me. They were left out to dry because they were the exploited periphery of the Republic and Alien. It's literally a 1:1 with the British genocide of Bengalis through famine during WWII.
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Jul 7, 2024 07:11
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:They were left out to dry because they were the exploited periphery of the Republic and Alien. It's literally a 1:1 with the British genocide of Bengalis through famine during WWII. What, so it’s illegal to not give people food? You have to give them food? Look, war sucks. That’s just how it is. I know it’s bad, but it’s good also. And, for all we know, those people were pretending to starve in order to get extra rations. We don’t know! We don’t know anything at all - so why assume the worst instead of assuming the best? I press the boot firmly on your neck and assume you have air, and that’s fine. Ok? It’s fine. I am but a servant of God. And I just don’t buy that God would allow this to happen - so, therefore, it didn’t happen. There is an objective Goodness in this setting, and you are now witness to it. Behold!
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Jul 7, 2024 13:42
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I bet I can fit this in my head in time for the next episode: "Goddess - Mysteries of the Feminine Divine by Joseph Cambell". I can feel my commentary becoming more insufferable. Vicki Noble's The Double Goddess is in French, which baffles me because she is not French. Guess I will have to get the hard copy. edit: just finished a rewatch on my laptop. Not only does Osha put on Mae shoes (step into her role), she put on her fun little cut off hoodie. When the light hits the hoodie's fabric just right you can see an interlocking triangle pattern embossed into the textile. In episode three, you can see in close up shots that the witches' robes and cloaks feature a similar pattern. especially on Aniseya. Marsupial Ape fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Jul 7, 2024 |
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Jul 7, 2024 14:06
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General Dog posted:What does the “Unkown Planet” caption mean in the latest Acolyte episode? Unknown to the unseen editor of the text, unknown to OSHA as the POV character, or diagetically unknown to the rest of the galaxy? It means the research assistant to the Whills was tasked with going back and figuring out what planet that was, but has been too busy with all the random poo poo they were told to track down for the Journal that they haven’t done it yet. “Wait, Ki-Adi is at the temple now? Didn’t earlier research say he was born later?” It’s easier to imagine Star Wars canon is the way it is because the Journal of the Whills was a mess to research and compile together. Journal_of_the_Whills_finalFINAL-ver3.doc
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Jul 7, 2024 16:35
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General Dog posted:What does the “Unkown Planet” caption mean in the latest Acolyte episode? Unknown to the unseen editor of the text, unknown to OSHA as the POV character, or diagetically unknown to the rest of the galaxy? the old lady in the Jedi Library told Obi-Wan that Kamino wasn't in the archives and therefore it didn't exist, ergo UNKNOWN PLANET doesn't exist because nobody knows about it.
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Jul 7, 2024 17:46
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Some people were speculating it might be Ahch-To however
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Jul 7, 2024 17:48
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After the war Kamino is definitely no more!
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Jul 7, 2024 18:11
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General Dog posted:This series feels like it could been a 2 hour movie and not much would be lost. The current structure of “one episode of throat clearing followed by one episode of something happening” is wearing pretty thin. It's true. Pretty much nothing happens in episodes 2, 4 and 6. Everything to do with Jedi Tommen was a waste of time, so just cut it to three Jedi to kill and you can remove episode 2. Episodes 4 and 6 just revolve in circles wasting time.
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Jul 7, 2024 19:25
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the second jedi existed to exonerate osha, show that whatever happened was an event actually worth having guilt over and not just some insanity mae was fed or invented in her own head, show osha that mae was alive, and introduce qimir as a goofy yet dependable guy. all these aspects of character or plot were important to have in that space of the story and no later because we rely on those building blocks to establish why characters are thinking or doing things later. i dont think there are any plot beats or aspects of the structure i would cut or change in the show. most of the scenes just need tighter editing and line revision
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Jul 7, 2024 20:13
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because of the events in this series, the senate voted to defund OSHA, which is why there are no safety rails around fall hazards by the time of Phantom Menace
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Jul 7, 2024 20:22
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I think after the sequel trilogy was a disaster Disney got cold feet so they just turn everything into a tv show for streaming and don't bother making movies. So you get stuff like this, what could be a 2 hour movie becomes an 8 episode tv show.
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Jul 7, 2024 20:39
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Obi Wan would have been a neat movie, this would have been a neat movie. Instead they made boring TV shows.
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Jul 7, 2024 20:45
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TuxedoOrca posted:I think after the sequel trilogy was a disaster Ah yes, all $4.476 billion dollars in profit of it. What an unmitigated disaster for the Walt Disney Corporation. I hope someone was fired for that blunder.
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Jul 7, 2024 20:46
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Cojawfee posted:Obi Wan would have been a neat movie, this would have been a neat movie. Instead they made boring TV shows. From what I hear I think it was originally supposed to BE a movie (and it kind of shows)
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Jul 7, 2024 20:47
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Paper Lion posted:the second jedi existed to exonerate osha, show that whatever happened was an event actually worth having guilt over and not just some insanity mae was fed or invented in her own head, show osha that mae was alive, and introduce qimir as a goofy yet dependable guy. all these aspects of character or plot were important to have in that space of the story and no later because we rely on those building blocks to establish why characters are thinking or doing things later. Exonerating Osha makes the show less interesting, Osha already was convinced Mae was alive in episode one and it's very easy to introduce Qimir in an alternate fashion. Given that characters have repeatedly changed motivation without anything resembling setup, I don't think establishing these building blocks has worked out very well. So again, the show could easily cut episode two and the large portions of the series as a whole with only a few reworks and the result would be a better show.
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Jul 7, 2024 20:48
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Larryb posted:From what I hear I think it was originally supposed to BE a movie (and it kind of shows) Yeah, Obi-Wan and The Mandalorian were supposed to be movies under the "A Star Wars Story" banner. Mando was supposed to be a Boba Fett movie directed by Josh Trank and got heavily retooled over a couple of years and actually had something decent made out of it. Obi-Wan just had its major plot beats stretched out across TV show episodes and then filled with boring poo poo to pad time. I think The Acolyte was going to be the Yoda movie too but it also got heavily reworked into what it is now. e: YESSSSS! I got Kamala'd! 
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Jul 7, 2024 20:50
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Exist, we do, in the context of all in which we live and what came before. It surrounds us and binds us.
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Jul 7, 2024 21:02
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LostRook posted:Exonerating Osha makes the show less interesting, Osha already was convinced Mae was alive in episode one and it's very easy to introduce Qimir in an alternate fashion. At bare minimum trim it down to four full episodes of 40-50 minutes rather than the bite-sized ones we've got that don't tell any sort of complete story and leave us with really laughable cliffhangers like Sol having Mae strapped to a gurney and saying "at last, how shall I reveal my shameful secret?"
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Jul 7, 2024 21:09
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Sir Kodiak posted:Exist, we do, in the context of all in which we live and what came before. It surrounds us and binds us. Fall out of a coconut tree you did not
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Jul 7, 2024 21:18
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Sir Kodiak posted:Exist, we do, in the context of all in which we live and what came before. It surrounds us and binds us. you think from a jogan fruit tree you have fallen?
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Jul 7, 2024 21:21
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Sir Kodiak posted:Exist, we do, in the context of all in which we live and what came before. It surrounds us and binds us. The Force is a circle whose center is every where and circumference is no where.
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Jul 7, 2024 21:23
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Larryb posted:Ahch-To Gesundheit
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Jul 7, 2024 21:32
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nine-gear crow posted:e: YESSSSS! I got Kamala'd! Oh, no, they got the 'sancity' of your avatar, too? lol
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Jul 7, 2024 21:47
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Marsupial Ape posted:Oh, no, they got the 'sancity' of your avatar, too? lol I mean I asked for it, so I am happy that it finally happened.
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Jul 7, 2024 22:01
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nine-gear crow posted:I mean I asked for it, so I am happy that it finally happened. Technically, I feel even worse for you, now.
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Jul 7, 2024 22:06
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 Glad to see his four months of training finally paid off
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Jul 7, 2024 22:06
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Marsupial Ape posted:Technically, I feel even worse for you, now. Because I goaded an idiot into burning  for my own amusement? 
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Jul 7, 2024 22:09
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nine-gear crow posted:Because I goaded an idiot into burning Just banter my dude.
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Jul 7, 2024 22:14
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Marsupial Ape posted:Just banter my dude. It's all good. I love this weird internet artifact and
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Jul 7, 2024 22:17
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nine-gear crow posted:It's all good. I love this weird internet artifact and I accused a mod of having a 6th grade reading level. ‘Sancity’, indeed.
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Jul 7, 2024 22:24
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Marsupial Ape posted:I accused a mod of having a 6th grade reading level. ‘Sancity’, indeed. lol, so who nailed you for it, the mod in question or someone trying to white knight them? Either way, that's also hilarious.
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Jul 7, 2024 22:35
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Larryb posted:From what I hear I think it was originally supposed to BE a movie (and it kind of shows) Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. They had plans for all kinds of movies but it all stopped suddenly and now we have tv shows.
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Jul 7, 2024 22:35
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nine-gear crow posted:lol, so who nailed you for it, the mod in question or someone trying to white knight them? Either way, that's also hilarious. gently caress if I know or care. It was back when I was new and didn't know somebody could even do that. I honestly wasn't acting great that night (looking back, I think I had a fever lol) and was lucky to not get probed. This was in a writing forum, mind you, so there's that extra layer of irony.
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Jul 7, 2024 22:44
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TuxedoOrca posted:Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. They had plans for all kinds of movies but it all stopped suddenly and now we have tv shows. I’m not even confident the currently planned movies are going to see the light of day at this point (or at best will be direct to streaming)
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Jul 7, 2024 22:54
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wrapping up mando as some sort of avengers team-up movie or whatever the hell they had wanted to do instead of giving it a final season is a pretty stupid idea, so i hope not
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Jul 7, 2024 22:56
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nine-gear crow posted:Yeah, Obi-Wan and The Mandalorian were supposed to be movies under the "A Star Wars Story" banner. Mando was supposed to be a Boba Fett movie directed by Josh Trank and got heavily retooled over a couple of years and actually had something decent made out of it. Obi-Wan just had its major plot beats stretched out across TV show episodes and then filled with boring poo poo to pad time. I think The Acolyte was going to be the Yoda movie too but it also got heavily reworked into what it is now.
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I just want them to tear the band-aid off and start telling stories in the post-sequels era. I do not like the sequels, so let's just move the gently caress passed them. Like, maybe a 100 or so years passed them. What the point of showing how bad the old Jedi Order is if you're not going to give us a cool, new Jedi Order to makes us feel better. The audience does not want to feel conflicted about liking the rad glow-sword heroes.
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