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HootTheOwl posted:I want to say they did this in the Tie fighter (or maybe later) games, where the empire Nebulon frigates look different than rebel Nebulon frigates you might be thinking of the Nebulon B2: 
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i dunno, i can see the appeal of, like, Y-Wings originally having cowlings and panels, but i don't feel like that means every greebly design in Star Wars needs to be a stripped-down version of an otherwise sleek body
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:i dunno, i can see the appeal of, like, Y-Wings originally having cowlings and panels, but i don't feel like that means every greebly design in Star Wars needs to be a stripped-down version of an otherwise sleek body Agreed. The greebly design in Star Wars is one of its most iconic visual design motifs.
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I enjoyed The Acolyte quite a bit, especially on a re-watch. The mystery element that was a tad frustrating on the first watch was gone on the second, and instead I just enjoyed the story. And it's a cool story about The Force. I liked the witches, I liked the central conflict. God, I loved The Stranger. And Plagueius?? Maybe. I liked Sol as our protagonist a lot. He's not corrupted, he's not misguided, he's just....flawed. A Jedi of his time. The Dark Side already surrounds them and is strangling them, and they are clueless for the most part. It wasn't perfect for sure, but it was leagues better than the Boba Fett, Kenobi, or Ashoka shows. So I am bummed it's not getting a second season. There were tons of directions it could have gone. Feels like Lucasfilms will learn the exact wrong lesson here: New and different? Cancelled. Established property? Milk it for all the blue milk it's got.
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Bunch of nerds started making GBS threads on it from the very beginning and Disney got scared. They’ll throw a bunch of slop out there that gets more seasons but for some reason this one Star Wars thing gets jettisoned. Like it wasn’t great but it had some good stuff in there. I feel like if they are ever gonna make any real money off Star Wars they’re gonna have to start throwing non movie timeline stories at a wall untill something hits. Skywalkers have been a burden to Star Wars for far too long now.
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And the story The Acolyte was trying to tell - that the prequels were trying to tell - is not that the Jedi suck and are just Space Cops (which they kinda do and kinda are....) - is about the dangers of sacrificing your beliefs for power, for order. And power comes in many forms. Serving The Republic was a power that sucked the Jedi in, corrupted them as an institution not because they were EVIL, but because they became bureaucrats. Servants of a system - and that system is power. It can be nothing else. So unless we go way back in Star Wars time, any story about the Jedi will be in some way about their fall. How over the ages they got assimilated into a power structure and then when the Sith had control of that power structure, they had no escape. A lesson for us all, maybe.
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redshirt posted:So I am bummed it's not getting a second season. There were tons of directions it could have gone. Feels like Lucasfilms will learn the exact wrong lesson here: New and different? Cancelled. Established property? Milk it for all the blue milk it's got. I'm kind of mystified at the price tag being so high. If it actually went for paying the actors, then LOL given who is left at the end and the immediate series cancellation.
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Also, lol I identify as a Jedi (Padawan)
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Pretty much everything that sucked had the kernal of a good idea. I was fit to throw something at my screen when BobF took the most compelling bit and jettisoned it. Boba has this connection to the Tusken people revealed in flashbacks. Boba needs more foot soldiers to fight the even meaner fish gangsters. He is shown helping the Tuskens adapt to offworlder tactics while they help him learn to live in the desert. It's derivative, but this part of the story is pretty well excecuted! Normal, good storytelling would pay this off in the way you'd expect and it would be satisfying! Tuskens lending their gaffi sticks to the cause and maybe earning some respect from the offworlders and more detente and understanding. Instead: they fridge the Tuskens, to a man (woman and child) in flashback to give us, I guess even more reason to dislike the Fish Gangsters. That's not subversion, that's just narrative sabotage. poo poo, I can think of two other set-ups that are paid off in just the dumbest way. Rival gangsters gift a dangerous animal. It is exactly what's on the tin, a useful pet. This wouldn't be bad in solation if it was the only example but also. The madame of a casino and pleasure palace pays tribute to Boba. In what would be a clever move if deliberate, she fills their helmets with treasure leaving them less protected when they are almost immediately ambushed by assassins. But no, it was not her. She and her whole operation gets fridged so we have even more reason to dislike the Fish Gangsters. There really were some organelles of a good show there. Acolyte was similar, good ideas, dogshit execution. Leaden dialogue rules the day. Characters with almost no internality, or written so opaquely that we have to guess what that might be. When you're doing long form streaming is less excusable because there's less setpiece blaster and space battle proportionately to the character and dialogue scenes. Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Nov 17, 2024 |
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Yeah you hit the nail on the head. BoBF never had any narrative payoff. Just constant new hooks which were eventually written out in the lamest way possible.
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Arc Light posted:Yeah you hit the nail on the head. BoBF never had any narrative payoff. Just constant new hooks which were eventually written out in the lamest way possible. And then by the last few episodes the show basically got turned into Mando Season 2.5 (also AI voiced Luke Skywalker still doesn't sit right with me)
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I wanted to like the Boba Fett show, so much! Alas...
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I wanted Boba Fett to restart the reactor and give Tatooine oceans. You could still use Tunisia. Tataouine is only like 50 miles from the Mediterranean and looks like a desert planet!
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redshirt posted:And the story The Acolyte was trying to tell - that the prequels were trying to tell - is not that the Jedi suck and are just Space Cops (which they kinda do and kinda are....) - is about the dangers of sacrificing your beliefs for power, for order. And power comes in many forms. Serving The Republic was a power that sucked the Jedi in, corrupted them as an institution not because they were EVIL, but because they became bureaucrats. Servants of a system - and that system is power. It can be nothing else. It's one thing to say "power corrupts" like it's some mystical truth- like the dark side supposedly works, and it's another thing to see Sol's ideals being shaped by the institution he's part of and the opportunities to "fix" things he thinks it gives him and how that framework has allowed a basically nice idealist to actually do monstrous things. It's really good! I'm not going to say everything about the show was perfect, but it absolutely nailed that interaction between idealism and institutions that is the actual reason All Cops Are Bastards, even if they were once individually basically nice people. Owlbear Camus posted:Pretty much everything that sucked had the kernal of a good idea. Boba Fett was, before this show, just a faceless mercenary. This show didn't want to just be about a bunch of nihilistic violence, so it needed to get its protagonist to have a reason to do... basically anything constructive. The show is going to be about Boba Fett founding a community- he's tired of the backstabbing rough life, being at the mercy of the people paying him to do violence, he wants something more comfortable and gratifying. He wants a supportive community. But why does Boba Fett suddenly want that? He's been a faceless mercenary his whole life. So circumstances force him into a position where he basically gets his face rubbed into a supportive community. He has no choice but to be part of this tribe, and he feels what it is to be connected like that. We have explained why a mercinary wants community now: because a community found him and took him in. Okay, next problem, why is he trying to build a community if he already found one that meant so much to him? And at last this is the real reason that all the Tuskens had to die, down to the last man (woman and child). If any of them are still around, he's still got a family, and so they can't tell the story of him trying to find a family. If there are any still out there, and family/community is that important to him these days, why the heck is he playing Jabba in a palace and not with them? I'm not saying this was a particularly good reason to kill off every single Tusken, but it wasn't just done for shock value or to make you hate the villains more or anything. It was done in an attempt to justify Boba Fett participating in the story they really wanted to tell, of him cleaning up his corner of Tatooine and being a good ruler. Presumably they thought that would be a fun place to leave the character for future stories. I kind of sympathize with what they were trying to do. Boba Fett is cool, but he has never actually been a character. He was a cool set of armor. If he's your main character you want a bit more going on to work with, but you have to take this character people have known on a very surface level for like 40 years and establish his basic motivations and tell a story resulting from those motivations all in one brief season. They obviously didn't do a great job, but it's not like what they were trying to do was all that easy.
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I don’t think they did. It was just a stop gap between the Mando seasons to keep hype in a time they didn’t have their D+ production pipeline in full effect. You can tell because it turns into a half Mando season and the production was rushed. I’m sure if it would have been a big hit there would have been more.
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I don't know that I wanted Boba Fett to have an internal arc of self-realization. I was looking forward to Mysterious Dangerous Man taking all his doing-violence-for-pay heritage and becoming Space Scarface.
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did people really not expect Book to basically be a Mando show? i basically figured that was going to happen before it even came out
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:did people really not expect Book to basically be a Mando show? i basically figured that was going to happen before it even came out I think people expected Mando to show up, but two episodes of pivotal plot development for Din and Grogu that features next to nothing of the titular Boba did seem like an odd narrative diversion. I thought they were good mando episodes, but if nothing else it was a weird redirection of what little narrative momentum the show had.
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Larryb posted:Did they ever have plans for another Boba season out of curiosity (the final scene seems to imply as such)? Do you mean the post credits? Because that’s nothing more than keeping the door open to Raylan Givens returning to a future Star War.
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I was up for crime-lord Boba, and it would have been cool to see him doing an actual goddamn crime at some point. Just one, as a treat.
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Disney has trouble making popular characters just be evil.
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Parkingtigers posted:I was up for crime-lord Boba, and it would have been cool to see him doing an actual goddamn crime at some point. Just one, as a treat. *Taking notes on crime from the Vespa Kids
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Invalid Validation posted:Disney has trouble making popular characters just be evil. Come to think of it, they didn't even really make Palpatine evil. He was just an elderly man wanting to spend time with his estranged grandclone
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Owlbear Camus posted:The madame of a casino and pleasure palace pays tribute to Boba. In what would be a clever move if deliberate, she fills their helmets with treasure leaving them less protected when they are almost immediately ambushed by assassins. But no, it was not her. She and her whole operation gets fridged so we have even more reason to dislike the Fish Gangsters. I liked that character so much. I'm a sucker for the "bar owner who knows everything" type. Given Fett had no idea about anything going on in town or even anywhere on the whole planet, he should have made her his Grand Vizier. But no, instead he uses a robot designed to torture other robots. wtf? Another big gripe was Fett trying to be the next big crime lord with his staff of precisely _two_ Gamorrean guards. Who end up being pushed off a loving cliff. quote:There really were some organelles of a good show there. Yeah, that's my problem with it. If it was dogshit all the way through, that would be one thing. But there are all these glimpses of what could have been a really great show but instead we get, "Don't worry about the plot, the fans will eat any old slop" which has defined almost all of the live action TV era.
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Like, I love the visuals of Slave 1 hovering above the Sarlacc pit staring down into it. It looks cool as hell. But it makes no loving sense because: 1/ he left with his armour on 2/ he's looking into its mouth, not its digestive system 3/ even if he sees his armour in the mouth, he's got no way to retrieve it 4/ he knows it's alive and an an aggressive creature... that once ate him As cool as those visuals are, it's not worth the stupidity of needing to ignore everything else about it.
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I will never understand why they made the badass mercenary’s whole deal ‘I want to be a crime lord, but a good one’. That’s not a thing. They should have just made it a revenge show, where he spends the season taking down the Pyke Syndicate or something of that nature.
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Book of Boba Fett is basically a star war version of Once Upon a Time in Mexico, just a bunch of nonsense that happens so that Robert Rodriguez can have weird action setpieces.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:did people really not expect Book to basically be a Mando show? i basically figured that was going to happen before it even came out Wow, you really did call it back then: Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Do y'all really think the Boba Fett show is gonna be a grim 'n' gritty crime show? Disney isn't going to do Twin Suns of Anarchy, their version of a biker gang will be like the Fonz or Biff Tannen's cronies doing low-speed chases on their mopeds.
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If I was in that particular writer’s room, I would have pitched Boba turning a sort of Big Man. He’s not trying to save or reform the world, he’s just going to mad mug and knock heads until Tatooine is pacified enough he can sit on his throne in peace. That’s about as grounded a warlord as you can expect (and have fun with) in Star Wars. What we got was a Mandalorian mid life crisis.
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Marsupial Ape posted:If I was in that particular writer’s room, I would have pitched Boba turning a sort of Big Man. He’s not trying to save or reform the world, he’s just going to mad mug and knock heads until Tatooine is pacified enough he can sit on his throne in peace. That’s about as grounded a warlord as you can expect (and have fun with) in Star Wars. For all it being trash, I still respect: NoneMoreNegative posted:also with the Boba Fett discussion, it was not a good show but I did like that Temu Morrison pushed hard to get some of his Polynesian / Māori heritage integrated into BF's character, the Tusken Raider Gaffi stick fighting was very much his doing.
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NoneMoreNegative posted:For all it being trash, I still respect: I was thinking of that when I suggested the Big Man archetype. Morrison would have had some interesting input.
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Some nice clean gifs of the Galactic Antiquities and Objects Gallery from I think the ANDOR bluray bonus / BTS materials:  More: https://starwarsblr.tumblr.com/post/765367930551697408
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Hey the Indiana Jones Sankara Stones are in that gif. Edit: 
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 Lol the Hovitos Idol in Carbonite.
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Arc Hammer posted:
So do you think they're just using carbonite to protect a statue for shipment or there's a little alien in there that's been converted to...an antique?
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Sash! posted:So do you think they're just using carbonite to protect a statue for shipment or there's a little alien in there that's been converted to...an antique? Perhaps you could tell them, if only you spoke Hovitos.
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the jedi are inherently bad because they engage in a fascism of the soul, dictating who gets to interact with the living spirituality of the universe and how. their extension into fascism of the body, of busting heads and breaking into queer poc spaces to abduct their children, of becoming generals in a wartime, of performing inquisitions is entirely natural. the acolyte is simply visual proof of that connective fibre for the people that could not already make that association. you cant say the jedi are good but misunderstood or victims on any level while also doing the wojack point at nemiks manifesto as being good writing. every single word of that speech can be directed at the jedi as both an ideology and an institution.
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