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Han is very 1970s, when cantankerous sex pests were routinely treated as charming. It's interesting that I used to love the character as a kid (who doesn't like a swashbuckling rogue?), and I still find his line readings pretty funny in ESB, but I now consider him the least compelling character in A New Hope and the most pointless character by time we get to ROTJ. I think he's an amusing character, I think his imperial space chase stuff is awesome, and obviously "I know" is one of the best replies ever, but that's about it. I like the Auralnauts version of Han where he's this old rockabilly deadbeat stoner hooking up with Leia (who doesn't even care about him) and then gets frozen by Vader to sent him as far away as possible from his daughter. They really homed in on Han's sleazy nature. Love Rat fucked around with this message at 16:32 on May 26, 2025 |
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Elman posted:Sorry if it's been posted already It was, but I'm glad to see it has 35k views now. Last time it was posted it had <1000!
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May 26, 2025 16:46
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The old EU really tried to make Solo into the greatest pilot and gunslinger and dealmaker around, counter to all the film evidence that he was a serial fuckup.
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Yeah, with the Raiders story conference, based on what we know about 70s Hollywood, Lucas, Spielberg, and Kasdan all probably had plenty of friends at the time who were doing all kinds of awful stuff that was just brushed off as a quirky character flaw. Hell, the story conference happened the same year Polanski fled to Europe. Keep in mind that there was a scene in the script where it was revealed Indy was sleeping with his students when Marcus stopped by. And he's pretty explicitly shown to be a grave-robber. This character was not intended to be seen as a morally tidy guy. Which is weird when you think about it from a children's entertainment standpoint, but less weird when you think about it from the fact that these were filmmakers who were big fans of morally-grey 60s cinema with complex and often repugnant protagonists, trying to add depth and complexity to old kid's media. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 17:19 on May 26, 2025 |
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I mean, sleazy 70s poonhounds who only care about their dog and their car seem rogueish and sexy when they're young but ultimately turn into disappointing dirtbags you think Wooderson from Dazed and Confused has a personal life story that ends in a good way? Nah he 100% turns into this 
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If Andor leaves you wanting more espionage in your Star Wars, well The CIA secretly ran Star Wars fan site (404 Media) and their sloppy infosec got a lot of people killed.
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Pinterest Mom posted:It was, but I'm glad to see it has 35k views now. Last time it was posted it had <1000! I posted it here back on Wednesday and at that point it had like 350~ total views 
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Love Rat posted:Han is very 1970s, when cantankerous sex pests were routinely treated as charming. It's interesting that I used to love the character as a kid (who doesn't like a swashbuckling rogue?), and I still find his line readings pretty funny in ESB, but I now consider him the least compelling character in A New Hope and the most pointless character by time we get to ROTJ. I think he's an amusing character, I think his imperial space chase stuff is awesome, and obviously "I know" is one of the best replies ever, but that's about it. people don't like to admit it but cassian andor makes han solo obsolete.
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Glimpse posted:If Andor leaves you wanting more espionage in your Star Wars, well The CIA secretly ran Star Wars fan site (404 Media) and their sloppy infosec got a lot of people killed. Can you quote the content on here? I don't want to sign up for 404 Media.
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Tankbuster posted:people don't like to admit it but cassian andor makes han solo obsolete. It's true. I only wish he had a weird alien friend he hung around with all the time, but at least he plays cards and gets drunk with his robot.
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Tankbuster posted:people don't like to admit it but cassian andor makes han solo obsolete. I like the idea that at some point Cassian met Han and was just sketched out by him. "Who the gently caress does this guy think he is?"
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Tankbuster posted:people don't like to admit it but cassian andor makes han solo obsolete. Cassian Andor survives Rogue One and then gets roped into Luke's adventure on the Death Star. He has to shake Luke back to his senses when Ben dies and the camera lingers on his very intense expression as he flies the getaway in the Falcon.
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If Cassian was in ANH, they wouldn't have flown a tracking device straight back to yavin.
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Love Rat posted:Can you quote the content on here? I don't want to sign up for 404 Media. I didn’t get hit so I didn’t realize there was a paywall, here you go: quote:The CIA Secretly Ran a Star Wars Fan Site
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Glimpse posted:I didn’t get hit so I didn’t realize there was a paywall, here you go: Fascinating stuff. Thanks for posting the text!
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I have Star Wars fans everywhere
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DaveKap posted:When Brasso is being chased and they focus on the 1 storm trooper in the bunch who is very slowly bringing his gun up to his face so he can aim, I had to laugh and say "uh oh, it's the one storm trooper who actually aims his gun, Brasso's dead!" So as sad and serious as this show gets, I still found levity in a very specific trope that I probably wasn't supposed to. lol I'm just watching this now and I thought the same, it was almost ~hesitantly~ like Wait... what if I..?, gave me a vibe of the ape in 2001 who discovered a bone could smash things very nicely; could have been a bad time for the Rebellion if this new breed of Aiming Trooper was allowed to multiply, so good job Andor killing him off ASAP.
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I thought that focus on the one trooper aiming was a creative decision to show how it just takes one shot, one man, one time, one moment, and you're dead. Or you're not, but this time, yeah. That's the stakes/consequences - your life.
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I miss Brasso. And Bee.
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Arc Hammer posted:I miss Brasso. And Bee. God drat Brasso was the man. This solid mountain of a man you could tell everyone in his social circle counted on - Andor, Marva, Bix, B2, everyone.
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redshirt posted:God drat Brasso was the man. This solid mountain of a man you could tell everyone in his social circle counted on - Andor, Marva, Bix, B2, everyone. From the very first scene that he was in, improvising the second half of Andor's lie about staying in drinking by adding a fight to explain the fact that his face was beat up. Didn't miss a beat. gently caress, Brasso was cool. Also based on S1E12 it looked like he gives amazing hugs.
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redshirt posted:God drat Brasso was the man. This solid mountain of a man you could tell everyone in his social circle counted on - Andor, Marva, Bix, B2, everyone. When he died I was like nooooo anyone but Brasso. It did set an essential "anyone can get it" tone though. When Bix left and B2 showed up in the epilogue I felt gladder to see them than I would if the writers hadn't set out to make it clear that anyone who isn't in Rogue One is vulnerable
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Just got my 78 year old dad onto Andor and he is loving it. He was talking to me this morning how good the Aldhani heist was. Now he is currently watching the episode again over breakfast lmao
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the aldhani heist is such an incredible action movie in of itself lol
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I think it and the wedding are definitely the highest points of the show.
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toggle posted:Just got my 78 year old dad onto Andor and he is loving it. He was talking to me this morning how good the Aldhani heist was. Now he is currently watching the episode again over breakfast lmao What is he watching the show on? Also please share more of your dad's takes as he progresses with the show.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I think it and the wedding are definitely the highest points of the show. Ask 10 people and I reckon you'd get 10 different answers which speaks to the merits of the show. My friend for example really hated the opening arc to series 2 but was very much on board with the rest. If I had to choose an arc from each season (which I think is a reductive activity anyway) I'd go with Narkina 5 and the Ghorman massacre. Butterfly Valley fucked around with this message at 22:30 on May 26, 2025 |
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Glimpse posted:I didn’t get hit so I didn’t realize there was a paywall, here you go: Using insufferable nerd poo poo as a numbers station rocks.
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On Way Out Rix Road Who Are You? The Eye Reckoning Harvest Welcome To The Rebellion The top three episodes could be shuffled in any order, IMO but they're all phenomenal TV.
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Tankbuster posted:the aldhani heist is such an incredible action movie in of itself lol Such an incredible action movie that Cassian was hearing people who were claiming to have been part of it.
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Announcement, Daughter of Ferrix and Who Are You would be my top 3 right now. Not a fan of how this show names episodes btw
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feedmyleg posted:Yeah, with the Raiders story conference, based on what we know about 70s Hollywood, Lucas, Spielberg, and Kasdan all probably had plenty of friends at the time who were doing all kinds of awful stuff that was just brushed off as a quirky character flaw. Hell, the story conference happened the same year Polanski fled to Europe. Indiana Jones and the Great Circle doesn’t have Indy sleep with his students but does address how he’s able to be a full time professor yet fly off on adventures he isn’t supposed to do that and is fired from a college for running off during finals. incredible game, beats out Fate of Atlantis & I liked Fate of Atlantis a lot. Tankbuster posted:the aldhani heist is such an incredible action movie in of itself lol Close competition but definitely my favorite part between both seasons. Tons of build up & we don’t know who we can trust, the imperials are competent, little things lead to near disaster, most likable idealistic rebel dies when they don’t have time to secure cargo, taking the time to show TIE pilots scrambling to their fighters even though it’s not essential…
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Hyrax Attack! posted:taking the time to show TIE pilots scrambling to their fighters even though it’s not essential… With the Eye in full view in the background too 
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Jerusalem posted:With the Eye in full view in the background too Oh for sure, nice payoff to the empire not listening when the locals discuss why it’s such a big deal, like no one checked to see how it would impact flight operations. Also liked little moments of empire being a jerk for fun, like the TIEs buzzing the grazing animals.
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My favorite moment of the entire show was the reveal that Lonnie got got. Not only did my heart go out to him so fully, but I actually gasped and said out loud "Oh no. They're all going to die!" Luthen and Saw had been telling me that the whole time. The contents of Rogue One and ANH told me that. But man, that moment of revelation that we were in the last arc and that I knew the fate of so few of these characters I loved really rocked me. ln a second I'd become so ready for Vel, Wilmon, Kleya, amd the rest of them to be dead by the end.
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Ballz posted:Has anyone done this yet
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I don't think there's enough Willmon hype. Dude had an arc!
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Wilmon and Lonnie retired together somewhere where they didn't see the sequel trilogy
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feedmyleg posted:My favorite moment of the entire show was the reveal that Lonnie got got. Not only did my heart go out to him so fully, but I actually gasped and said out loud "Oh no. They're all going to die!" Oh yeah that was well handled. Lonni was loyal, not greedy, gave incredibly useful info while taking big risks, & was upfront about being done. Sorry you know too much & Luthen can’t get you out on short notice.
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