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Madurai posted:And I think we all knew Lonni wasn't going to live through the show, from the moment we saw him on that elevator. I love how Luthen is dressed and framed exactly like a Sith Lord in that scene. Feels ready to bust out a red lightsaber at any moment
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StashAugustine posted:Someone needs to have Cass and Jyn on the beach with the "so sick of these star wars" speech bubble 
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Am I having a Mandela moment that at some point in Andor you learn/see that the equipment being built on Narkina 5 is Death Star parts? I just rewatched Season 1 and didn't see this, but maybe I just turned my head at the wrong moment.
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Jun 18, 2025 19:05
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Jewmanji posted:Am I having a Mandela moment that at some point in Andor you learn/see that the equipment being built on Narkina 5 is Death Star parts? I just rewatched Season 1 and didn't see this, but maybe I just turned my head at the wrong moment. Post-credits teaser of the final episode.
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Jewmanji posted:Am I having a Mandela moment that at some point in Andor you learn/see that the equipment being built on Narkina 5 is Death Star parts? I just rewatched Season 1 and didn't see this, but maybe I just turned my head at the wrong moment. Come, hallucinate with me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC8gwqu1_L8
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Jun 18, 2025 19:34
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You best start believin in death stars, you're in one.
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I appreciate how they learned their lesson from the first Death Star where the superlaser assembly was the last thing built and installed, so when they went to make DS2, Palpatine was like "no, you put that thing in FIRST, I want it to be able to shoot things before the cafeteria is even online."
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Jun 18, 2025 19:57
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nine-gear crow posted:I appreciate how they learned their lesson from the first Death Star where the superlaser assembly was the last thing built and installed, so when they went to make DS2, Palpatine was like "no, you put that thing in FIRST, I want it to be able to shoot things before the cafeteria is even online." They were waitin' on the kalkite and kyber cystals for the reactor the first time around, for the second one they already had all that available 
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A.o.D. posted:Come, hallucinate with me: 
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Jun 18, 2025 20:08
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You know that the DS2 engineers were talking poo poo about Krennic's engineering on the DS1. The marginalia to his original notes must be catty as gently caress.
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Jun 18, 2025 20:08
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Marsupial Ape posted:You know that the DS2 engineers were talking poo poo about Krennic's engineering on the DS1. The marginalia to his original notes must be catty as gently caress. Krennic wasn't an engineer, he was a politically reliable project manager.
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Jun 18, 2025 20:12
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Marsupial Ape posted:You know that the DS2 engineers were talking poo poo about Krennic's engineering on the DS1. The marginalia to his original notes must be catty as gently caress. Bevel Lemelisk showing up to work on Day 1 of Project Stardust 2 going "Oh, I'm sorry, WHOSE design proposals were 'dangerous' and 'borderline psychotic', Orson? Well look who's back and look who's dead  "
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Jun 18, 2025 20:13
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All the designers mocking Jerjerrod behind his back for the structural flaws in the first Death Star that he didn't catch.
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Jun 18, 2025 20:15
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Let’s eliminate the X-Wing sized trench! …wait, why is the interior superstructure Millennium Falcon-sized???
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Jun 18, 2025 20:18
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Madurai posted:Krennic wasn't an engineer, he was a politically reliable project manager. Are you denying that his successors would talk poo poo about him at every opportunity? That's the point of my comment. edit: also, you described every engineer I have ever met: a Peter Principled manager that should have stayed crunching numbers. Like, when the SSD went down at the Battle of Endor, that wasn't the best and brightest of the Empire's Navy...that was the biggest collection of the most socially buoyant turds. Marsupial Ape fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Jun 18, 2025 |
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Jun 18, 2025 20:21
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1st AD posted:Let’s eliminate the X-Wing sized trench! waves hand the inverse square law. Or something.
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Jun 18, 2025 20:22
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1st AD posted:Let’s eliminate the X-Wing sized trench! Erso reaching out from the world between worlds to move a decimal point in the CAD mockups
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Madurai posted:Krennic wasn't an engineer, he was a politically reliable project manager. I think I read somewhere that Krennic was a pretty gifted engineer but got put into Management. Some new novel maybe.
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redshirt posted:I think I read somewhere that Krennic was a pretty gifted engineer but got put into Management. Rogue One definitely reads like that, yes. A guy who has One Job and is out of his depth at everything else he thinks he wants for himself and just kind of runs around like a pissbitch the second his use to the machine is expired.
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Jun 18, 2025 20:38
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A.o.D. posted:Come, hallucinate with me: What the gently caress? I didn't know about this. I didn't think Andor had any post credit scenes. What's the season 2 post credit scene? Vader getting home from a lunch with Sheev and climbing into his Bacta tank?
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Jun 18, 2025 20:46
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thrawn527 posted:What's the season 2 post credit scene? Vader getting home from a lunch with Sheev and climbing into his Bacta tank? No, just a two hour movie.
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thrawn527 posted:What the gently caress? I didn't know about this. I didn't think Andor had any post credit scenes. Just one post credit scene, end of Season 1. That's it.
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nine-gear crow posted:Rogue One definitely reads like that, yes. A guy who has One Job and is out of his depth at everything else he thinks he wants for himself and just kind of runs around like a pissbitch the second his use to the machine is expired. The Peter Principle of management would actually explain why weird Imperial geniuses came out of the wood work in the New Republic era. Those were the competent fascists that just didn't know how to play the game or just didn't care about climbing the ladder. Kinda explains Thrawn, honestly.
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redshirt posted:Just one post credit scene, end of Season 1. That's it. Post credit scenes in TV shows bug me, especially when it happens in a single episode or at random points. In the streaming age who the hell watches to the end of the credits? The only reason you would is if a "skip credits" button appears, which gives away the fact that there's a post credit scene anyway. It just means I end up fast forwarding through the credits of every show just in case there's something else - which there never is.
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stev posted:Post credit scenes in TV shows bug me, especially when it happens in a single episode or at random points. In the streaming age who the hell watches to the end of the credits? The only reason you would is if a "skip credits" button appears, which gives away the fact that there's a post credit scene anyway. Marvel movies have conditioned me to expect it.
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It got me to sit through the credits of Andor Season 2 and hear that sweet sweet music transition.
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Halloween Jack posted:It would be pretty weird if Vader tried to get Luke to do coke with him. "and now, your highness, we will discuss the location of your rebel base" *offers leia the space gas pipeline*
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stev posted:Post credit scenes in TV shows bug me, especially when it happens in a single episode or at random points. In the streaming age who the hell watches to the end of the credits? The only reason you would is if a "skip credits" button appears, which gives away the fact that there's a post credit scene anyway. When it's every episode, they don't bother me. It's part of the show, fine, whatever. But when they just drop them randomly, or just once, like here, I don't know they're there, so I either miss them, or I have to check for them on every show ever.
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The post credits scene at the end of Andor season 1 is irrelevant to the story. It doesn't matter what the prisoners were building at Narkina 5. It doesn't reveal that the Death Star is under construction. It just ties in the events we've already seen with events we already know about.
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A.o.D. posted:The post credits scene at the end of Andor season 1 is irrelevant to the story. It doesn't matter what the prisoners were building at Narkina 5. It doesn't reveal that the Death Star is under construction. It just ties in the events we've already seen with events we already know about. I know. But I still would have liked to have seen it before now. But I had no reason to think Andor would suddenly add a post credit scene. thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Jun 18, 2025 |
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*smirks* I always honor the artists by watching the credits to the end. Guess im just built different
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I watched all of Andor with the Japanese dubbing on and no subtitles, just as Gilroy intended.
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A.o.D. posted:The post credits scene at the end of Andor season 1 is irrelevant to the story. I’m not sure it’s irrelevant that Cassian is building the bomb that will eventually kill him. The story doesn’t suffer if you don’t know this, but I think it’s an elegant idea. If he was just printing imperial license places it would give you a sense of the meaningless of imprisonment, instead of what we have here, which is the very deliberate use of slaves for building the weapons of their own destruction. It’s akin to forcing German prisoners of war to build the architecture of the holocaust. FWIW I think post credits scenes are dumb and it doesn’t seem like a Gilroy move. Jewmanji fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Jun 18, 2025 |
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Jewmanji posted:I’m not sure it’s irrelevant that Cassian is building the bomb that will eventually kill him. The story doesn’t suffer if you don’t know this, but I think it’s an elegant idea. If he was just printing imperial license places it would give you a sense of the meaningless of imprisonment, instead of what we have here, which is the very deliberate use of slaves for building the weapons of their own destruction. It’s akin to forcing German prisoners of war to build the architecture of the holocaust. It's also very plot relevant because it helps explain why the Empire initiated the PORD - not only to maintain "order", but they needed more prison labor. So the sweeps began...
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Now that I think about it, the PORD thing does reconcile a plot point from EU Star Wars: the Empire loved slave labor. In that context, it was always aliens. In this updated context, it's prison slave labor. That's clean.
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Ironslave posted:That said, I suspect Vader was there in case Tarkin got ideas about now being in the driver's seat and full command of a planet-destroying planet-sized interstellar fortress. Well, Watsonian from an OT perspective, no, because the Emperor’s position is unclear. Leia seems to think Tarkin is there to keep Vader in check and not vice versa. By the time Rogue One finishes, Vader is there because he got word that the Death Star plans were threatened and hopped a Star Destroyer to assist Tarkin. He then captures Leia and brings her back to Tarkin as she will know where the Rebel Base is and they conveniently have an operational Death Star to deal with it. “I’ll be here to kill Tarkin if he goes rogue” doesn’t obviously enter into things. And frankly, Vader’s a bigger risk to betray Palpatine than Tarkin is: that’s how the Sith roll, after all. The real question is what Vader’s Star Destroyer was doing after it dropped him off at the Death Star. This being Star Wars, I expect someoneks already answered that question somewhere.
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Jewmanji posted:I’m not sure it’s irrelevant that Cassian is building the bomb that will eventually kill him. The story doesn’t suffer if you don’t know this, but I think it’s an elegant idea. If he was just printing imperial license places it would give you a sense of the meaningless of imprisonment, instead of what we have here, which is the very deliberate use of slaves for building the weapons of their own destruction. It’s akin to forcing German prisoners of war to build the architecture of the holocaust. I think this is right and it was a useful way this time to recontextualise what was happening in the prison sequence. It was also good as a 'between seasons' scene. S1 of Andor does not care about the Death Star at all. But season 2 becomes very much about it and it looms unseen over the story ever more.
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Narsham posted:Well, Watsonian from an OT perspective, no, because the Emperor’s position is unclear. Leia seems to think Tarkin is there to keep Vader in check and not vice versa. According to Wookiepedia the Devastator survived the destruction of the Death Star and Vader quickly ditched it in favour of the Executor and it was given over to a Glup Shitto admiral who commanded it until a flight of B-Wings blew it up over Endor. But yeah, in ANH Vader and Tarkin respect each other's authority but don't really seem to give a poo poo about one another. Vader's annoyed that Tarkin and his cronies think the Death Star is an invincible I Win button for the universe. And Tarkin's annoyed that Vader is just there being a magic weirdo who rants about how cool his space magic is, chokes out his fan club for petty bitch reasons, and then just bails to dramabomb his ex-boyfriend. They seem like they're each mutually counting the seconds until they're out of each others' hair. Because Vader hates bureaucrats and the normies of the Star Wars universe want Darth Vader in their lives as little as possible. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 05:21 on Jun 19, 2025 |
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