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Vinylshadow posted:Give me an adventure of Chopper getting separated from the Ghost crew and winding up on Dagobah just so he and Yoda can do some bonkers Metal Gear Solid-rear end anime fight over some spare parts Hera angrily pushing them apart, demanding to know why they need the parts. Chopper grumpily explains he needed them to replace a faulty part but admitting that okay he could have just grabbed another one. Yoda proudly proclaims he just wanted it because Chopper did.
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Arc Hammer posted:I don't own A lightsaber, let alone several lightsabers that would necessitate an entire rack. Well, it wouldn't BE for you, obviously. 
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AlternateNu posted:Well, it wouldn't BE for you, obviously. Some Utapauan driving their Space Pickup with Grievous's blasted torso strapped to the hood, using it to hold whatever creature they went out and hunted that day
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It's good to know that this meme gnawed at Mark Hamill so much he eventually incorporated it into his hosed up Luke Skywalker headcanon.
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Cojawfee posted:Tbh, that's just what he came up with to get into the mentality he thought he needed for where they took Luke in the sequel. Seems like he didn't think that starting a new jedi school and then Ben Solo wrecking it was enough for his idea of Luke to just fully give up and live on an island. To be honest, Luke being a hermit was dumb as hell. What I always think is odd is that Rian Johnson gets all of the flack for Luke being completely absent for decades but like...that was a JJ Abrams thing! nine-gear crow posted:It's good to know that this meme 
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RembrandtQEinstein posted:What I always think is odd is that Rian Johnson gets all of the flack for Luke being completely absent for decades but like...that was a JJ Abrams thing! Yeah, Rian Johnson was working with what he was left with. He couldn't exactly say "lol that isn't what happened" and then tell his own story where Luke was part of everything the whole time just off screen. Even though JJ did exactly that with Palpatine when he shat out the script for the third movie. That trilogy really killed Star Wars for me and stopped me from watching any of the good stuff that came out until people started raving about Andor season 1.
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RembrandtQEinstein posted:What I always think is odd is that Rian Johnson gets all of the flack for Luke being completely absent for decades but like...that was a JJ Abrams thing! I think people have decided that JJ's version of Luke involved him doing some super secret Jedi mission or some ultra high level Yoda meditation poo poo. He only appeared to be living his best hermit life on a rock, until Rian ruined everything by confirming it. Idk people are dumb.
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At least we got the classic Luke moment of "But what about the sacred Jedi texts?" And then Yoda being all "You didn't even read them, you dingus."
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Cojawfee posted:At least we got the classic Luke moment of "But what about the sacred Jedi texts?" And then Yoda being all "You didn't even read them, you dingus." And that other classic moment of showing that actually Rey has them safe and sound so nothing of consequence has happened.
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PriorMarcus posted:And that other classic moment of showing that actually Rey has them safe and sound so nothing of consequence has happened. Not just that, they're never referred to ever again, if I remember correctly. I don't remember a lot from Episode 9
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nine-gear crow posted:It's good to know that this meme more like hosed up head lightsaber
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PriorMarcus posted:And that other classic moment of showing that actually Rey has them safe and sound so nothing of consequence has happened. Yet Yoda just says she already took them, making the whole thing "Yoda makes Luke look stupid, like always."
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Qui Gon's Ghost: So Anakin.... yeah... my bad. Anyway, now that I'm one with the Force I understand that it will be one of his children who brings balance to the force. If one of them comes to you, you must train them with all sincerity and take things very seriously. Yoda: A better idea, I have 
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Dave Syndrome posted:Not just that, they're never referred to ever again, if I remember correctly. The texts are used for info on the Sith Wayfinder and Exegol. So fortunately/unfortunately, they're relevant in 9. They also contained incriminating photos of Palpatine's obsession with miniature naked men: 
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Is there an accepted answer yet why Palpatine looks that? Did he really "melt" his own face at the end of ROTS? Or was using some Sith magic to conceal his real face? I feel like Lucas was going somewhere in AOTC towards a different answer (he looks more ragged and burned out in AOTC than he does in the beginning of ROTS) - the Dark Side is slowly corrupting his features. But he changed his mind in ROTS. If the answer is "Yes, Palps melted his own face with his own reflected lightning", then explain his teeth.
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YLLS You look like Sith
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redshirt posted:If the answer is "Yes, Palps melted his own face with his own reflected lightning", then explain his teeth. Sith get good dental coverage 
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redshirt posted:Is there an accepted answer yet why Palpatine looks that? Did he really "melt" his own face at the end of ROTS? Or was using some Sith magic to conceal his real face? There's a bullet point in some art book encyclopedia thing that said that ol Sheevy P had looked like monster mash since around the time of The Phantom Menace because the Dark Side fucks you up that badly and he was just putting on a normal face through Force mind tricks and Sith alchemy. When it came time to zap the poo poo out of Mace Windu, he dropped the act entirely and just lied about why his face was all melty. E: Also Rebels shows that there's at least some kind of effort to propagandize Palpatine's appearance to the rest of the galaxy. When he's shown off in news footage giving a speech to the Senate he looks like Episode III pre-Mace Windu fight Palpatine, and when he confronts Ezra directly he uses a hologram disguise to also make him look like his Episode III normal human self and then when Ezra tells him to gently caress off, he drops the act and monster mash Palpy appears instead. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Jun 27, 2025 |
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redshirt posted:Is there an accepted answer yet why Palpatine looks that? Did he really "melt" his own face at the end of ROTS? Or was using some Sith magic to conceal his real face? It’s never directly stated in dialogue, but it’s pretty clear in the scene that Palpatine is absorbing Windu’s lifeforce - ‘feeding on the hate’ or whatever - and it’s causing him physiological changes. He’s bloated up like a tick. The interpretation that he’s an alien who’s always looked like that doesn’t check out; Palpatine would have had to falsify his entire history to cover up how he looked as a baby. It’s introducing a ton of unnecessary complexity.
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Ironslave posted:Luke being a hermit was him thinking that, if he removed himself from the equation, then he'd also eventually lead to the end of these Force-related conflicts; if the Jedi die, so do the Sith, or at least these X-Side related conflicts. It's the dualist interpretation- well no it's the stupid reality now, of the Force taken to its logical extreme, and one in which he's also sublimating his grief and disappointment in himself. I mean, the main point in TLJ is that Luke cut himself off completely from the Force. He says the Jedi are the problem, but clearly he extends that to Force, which is commonly understood to “control” people’s “destiny” as Han says to explain why he disbelieves. So consider Luke: the Force gets his Aunt and Uncle killed to get him to go off with Ob-Wan, kills Obi-Wan, puts Luke in a position where he’s a hero and the woman he has a thing for is his twin sister, sends him to get trained by Troll Master Yoda, shows him visions of his friends being tortured leading to a bad time for him, and once he’s finally saved his dad and gotten some peace, sets him up to repeat all the errors of the Jedi including showing him ANOTHER vision of Ben turning evil, whereupon Luke reacts by doing something that turns Ben evil. When he wakes up, the academy and all the other students are dead, his best friend and his sister’s kid has run off to be evil, and all he has left is R2. Getting yourself lost without giving the Force your forwarding address seems pretty sensible.
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Narsham posted:I mean, the main point in TLJ is that Luke cut himself off completely from the Force. He says the Jedi are the problem, but clearly he extends that to Force, which is commonly understood to “control” people’s “destiny” as Han says to explain why he disbelieves. Trying to explain any of this poo poo to Star Wars Fans causes their brains to seize up.
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Narsham posted:I mean, the main point in TLJ is that Luke cut himself off completely from the Force. He says the Jedi are the problem, but clearly he extends that to Force, which is commonly understood to “control” people’s “destiny” as Han says to explain why he disbelieves. It's the whole bit of it. Luke couldn't just be hiding. He had to be thinking he was doing the right thing, because, while Luke has sometimes been pulled between natures, one thing he's never been is a coward.
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Ironslave posted:It's the whole bit of it. Luke couldn't just be hiding. He had to be thinking he was doing the right thing, because, while Luke has sometimes been pulled between natures, one thing he's never been is a coward. Luke being a coward would have been way to close to having a distinct personality, and we couldn't have that in the OT era when he's clearly a blank slate for audience members to see themselves in.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUv7j5Gj3Us Initially seems a little overwrought but layers a bunch of love on how good Andor is and was
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The Luke stuff is bad because it relies on you having (fore)knowledge of the expanded Jedi prophecy from the ending of The Clone Wars cartoon, where the stuff about the Chosen One from the prequels is merged with Yoda’s (and some of Obiwan’s) dialogue from the OT: that boy is our last hope to bring balance to the force by destroying the Sith, unless “there is another Skywalker”. This is where the idea that the Chosen One must be a Jedi named Skywalker comes from. The cartoons and ST movies retcon Yoda into being a prophet, with his idle musings turning out to have been cryptic messages from The Beyond. (Note: the part about ‘destroying the Sith’ appears to originate purely from Obiwan’s assumptions about the prophecy. "You were supposed to destroy the Sith, not join them!!!”) So, if you know all the cartoon lore poo poo, you can understand that TLJ’s Leia believes Luke to be the prophesied messiah who will resolve the immediate conflict, restore the New Jedi Order, and shape the entire universe into flawless utopia within a few decades. Rey is sent to the island with the exclusive purpose of being recruited into the new Order. Without this understanding, Leia’s whole military strategy is insane nonsense. At the same time, Luke intends to burn the Jedi texts - and then, implicitly, kill himself - because he believes that’s the actual fulfillment of the prophecy, his purpose as Chosen One. “There was balance, for a time,” but then the creation of the New Jedi Order seemingly unbalanced it. Training new Jedi must have been a deviation from prophecy, right? So, burning the texts and killing the last Jedi will get things back on track. And Snoke, curiously, almost agrees. Snoke believes that the Jedis’ Chosen One is the Antichrist and so seeks to destroy him. So, both he and Luke share the goal of killing Luke (until Snoke turns his attention to Rey). Without this understanding, these guys' plans also don't make sense. (Lucas originally planned to introduce a twist where Leia to be revealed as the Jedi’s true Chosen One, in his sequel trilogy - and that might have even still been the case, for all we know, if Carrie Fisher hadn’t died. Regardless, it’s really weird that his possibility never comes up after Obiwan explicitly identified her as the other Skywalker (even though her name’s Organa). You just have to assume that Obiwan’s wrong again.) In the actually-existing Lucas hexalogy, The Tragedy Of Darth Vader, the Chosen One/‘Other Skywalker' is of course simply Darth Vader. All this other poo poo is just a series of questionable what-if speculations. But, in any case, Last Jedi conveys all this nuance incredibly badly. Little of what I just wrote is evident in the film itself, and what is there is presented entirely through clumsy expository dialogue. You’re just expected to already understand that Luke is Literally Supposed To Be Space Jesus Christ, that it’s the specific expectation being subverted. If you don’t expect Luke to be Literally Space Jesus Christ, the story breaks down. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Jun 28, 2025 |
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Vinylshadow posted:
You KNOW he was drinking directly from the dickteet like 24/7 and only used a cup that one time because someone else was there
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Well Rian got it (space Jesus Luke dies and a Pentecost happens) and JJ didn’t. That’s the biggest reason it’s all incoherent.
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Bar Ran Dun posted:Well Rian got it (space Jesus Luke dies and a Pentecost happens) and JJ didn’t. No; both directors understand Luke as a messianic figure. The difference is that JJ's films present Luke and Rey as false messiahs, as antichrists. The character who dies for Rey's sins and opens up a space for something new to emerge, in the final episode, ends up being Ben Solo - who finally achieves his life's goal of being like Vader.
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https://x.com/fartagaz/status/1938896755161960604?t=0i0MgbqjfUk0d6EvUPr9-A&s=19 Not to slag Filoni or Favreau but I'm just imagining what would have happened if Jack Black's character was at the Star Wars Wansee conference. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Jun 28, 2025 |
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Obi Wan was kind of dumb for thinking that "bring balance to the force" meant destroying one half of force powers.
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Cojawfee posted:Obi Wan was kind of dumb for thinking that "bring balance to the force" meant destroying one half of force powers. He was only wrong about which half needed to be destroyed
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Arc Hammer posted:what would have happened if Jack Black's character was at the Star Wars Wansee conference. "Deep substrate foliated Kalkite." 
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NoneMoreNegative posted:"Deep substrate foliated Kalkite." Ghorman yearns for the mines.
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Arc Hammer posted:
I'm trying to imagine him as Ian McNiece in Conspiracy
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Arc Hammer posted:
Given what little we know of his character, he might very well have been on the staff of any of those other technocrat dudes.
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Arc Hammer posted:Not to slag Filoni or Favreau but I'm just imagining what would have happened if Jack Black's character was at the Star Wars Wansee conference. That would have been like 15 years earlier, so Black would be looking like his character from the movie Bernie.
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Madurai posted:Given what little we know of his character, he might very well have been on the staff of any of those other technocrat dudes. He's the big guy you see in profile working some of the support stuff during the Ghorman Massacre
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NoneMoreNegative posted:"Deep substrate foliated Kalkite." 
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