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I liked AMCA's take on Mara Jade in that she was basically nowhere near as important as she thought she was. Like she thinks being hand of the emperor was a high ranking position, but she was basically just a messenger. She never made real decisions, or had actual authority entrusted to her or respect/fear from people within the Empire who did have all that.
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Arc Hammer posted:What was the point of casting Wes Chatham as Thrawn's stormtrooper commander with a cool helmet if he wasn't going to do anything. Same with the tall silver stormtrooper in the sequels. Or Boba Fett in RotJ. Star Wars loves makes brilliantly iconic characters and doing nothing with them.
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The EU does plenty with them, even if the films don't Boba's been pretty common in the current Marvel comics, and Phasma...well, she had a novel and played a bit role in Resistance (which had its own golden version of Phasma called Pyre running around) Plus, Mandalorians were pretty hype back in the early aughts, and the 501st fan group has a Mando wing called Mandalorian Warriors that's over 200 strong
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Lazy Fair posted:I liked AMCA's take on Mara Jade in that she was basically nowhere near as important as she thought she was. Like she thinks being hand of the emperor was a high ranking position, but she was basically just a messenger. She never made real decisions, or had actual authority entrusted to her or respect/fear from people within the Empire who did have all that. It's a neat concept because you can see why the Emperor might have a use for glorified messengers that you can't execute, on account of them having the word Emperor in their title. All kinds of high-ranking Imperials are getting fed to rancors or shot with turbolasers just trying to serve a summons to the local crime boss.
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I did like the bit where Thrawn casually mentions she was "one of" the Emperor's Hands and she has a meltdown realizing she was just a disposable asset
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Jul 5, 2025 12:27
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14 Hands in total, though the only names I recognize are Mara, Arden, Cronal, and Lumiya Most appearances are by Mara anyway and a fair few of the others are retcons, one-off mentions, and from various sourcebooks ...Also Masters of Teräs Käsi  I'm sure that was a fun job for Arden Lyn Just when you think Legends is already massive enough, you find a new cave system to explore Neat
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StashAugustine posted:I did like the bit where Thrawn casually mentions she was "one of" the Emperor's Hands and she has a meltdown realizing she was just a disposable asset Vinylshadow posted:14 Hands in total, though the only names I recognize are Mara, Arden, Cronal, and Lumiya Yeah, it completely tracks that Palpatine just went full Gaddafi and had a full on strike force of bodyguard babes lurking in the shadows that only he and a few key friends knew about, the massive perv that he was.
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Jul 5, 2025 19:48
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nine-gear crow posted:Yeah, it completely tracks that Palpatine just went full Gaddafi and had a full on strike force of bodyguard babes lurking in the shadows that only he and a few key friends knew about, the massive perv that he was. The most cowardly thing the sequels did was dismissing the idea that Palpatine fucks.
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Jul 5, 2025 20:36
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Vinylshadow posted:14 Hands in total, though the only names I recognize are Mara, Arden, Cronal, and Lumiya The Guy You Play as In TIE Fighter is one!
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Sash! posted:The Guy You Play as In TIE Fighter is one! Wait I thought he was a member of the Secret Order, when did he become Emperor's Hand?
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Vinylshadow posted:Masters of Teräs Käsi gotta admit I had a lol when this got namechecked in the SOLO movie 
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Arc Hammer posted:Wait I thought he was a member of the Secret Order, when did he become Emperor's Hand? I think that's one of the ranks in the Order.
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So does that mean that Mara Jade also had that sick rear end black light tattoo you get in TIE Fighter?
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Arc Hammer posted:Wait I thought he was a member of the Secret Order, when did he become Emperor's Hand? Palpatine's Secret Order found out he was Force-sensitive and trained him by Palpatine's request after Maarak saved him during Zaarin's insurrection, awarding him the Emperor's Hand, Reach, and Voice titles and eventually leading his personal fighter escort, using the Force to sense his opponents' thoughts and react accordingly Also got a nice tattoo out of the deal 
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Veotax posted:The second Thrawn book takes place between season 3 and 4 of Rebels. Basically he pretty much had the rebels trapped in a blockade and a mix of a glory hound imperial admiral breaking formation and getting himself killed, and some force bullshit on the planet the rebels had their base on allowed them to get away. That was the story where it really hit me: the whole underlying concept for Thrawn is that unlike most Imperial officers, he tries to find out something about the mentality of his opponent before fighting them. Granted, his methodology is suspect at best, but Star Wars gives us very little evidence that any Imperial captain or admiral bothers to know anything about their rebel opponents (and even Andor suggests Imperial Military Intelligence is so laughably bad that maybe it's a reasonable stance). "I am up against a specific enemy commander and should anticipate what that commander might do" isn't exactly sophisticated, but it's genius compared to most of what Star Wars shows us. You don't have to be a chess master when everyone else is playing under 1000 ELO. Except that you'd expect someone like that to know something about his own subordinate officers, especially the lone non-human Imperial Grand Admiral in a star fleet full of ambitious and backstabbing subordinates. And yet Thrawn apparently assigned an officer who could be expected to do the wrong thing to a ship crucial to his plans without any contingency for how to respond when that officer does something predictable. Being a genius at anticipating what another military commander will do in a given situation and not applying that genius to your own officers? You aren't a good military commander at all. Arc Hammer posted:Wait I thought he was a member of the Secret Order, when did he become Emperor's Hand? The Secret Order ranks are: First Initiate, Second Circle, Third Circle, Fourth Circle, Inner Circle, Emperor's Hand, Emperor's Eyes, Emperor's Voice, and Emperor's Reach. The last set all seem to fit specific roles that don't logically include "flies a fighter and blows things up good and that's all," but that's how the game handles those ranks.You also get to rise to the rank of General as a fighter pilot, though given you're flying a Missile Boat in the late missions that rank seems appropriate.
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Madurai posted:I think that's one of the ranks in the Order. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK20enpl1vE&t=296s The other ranks are Emperor's Eyes, Emperor's Voice, and Emperor's Reach. Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Jul 6, 2025 |
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Aoi posted:Pretty sure they mean literally, B2's consciousness being put into K2's body and being who they 'really' were. I hate this and am glad it didn't happen.
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Arglebargle III posted:They need to make a Saw Guerrera vehicle where everyone is a muppet except Forest Whittaker
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I don't think Thrawn would really cultivate competent officers in his command. He runs an army like he's playing an RTS game, with soldiers and officers being disposable, interchangeable, and expected to do exactly what they are ordered to do at all times. If anything, creative officers who are able to think independently are something he'd probably hate because they'd become less predictable and more likely to throw off his grand plan with a dozen moving parts. I can imagine some tenacious young officer succeeding at a seemingly impossible scenario might leave Thrawn fuming, because their unit dying was all part of the plan. This is also largely true of the Empire its self, and the greater theme of star wars with the Empire vs the Rebellion. The strong but brittle imperial war machine falling apart against a weak but flexible insurgency is very much the point.
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There's a bit at the start of The Last Command where a technician tries to pull off something clever to catch Luke and while it doesn't work Thrawn seems genuinely impressed and pleased at the officer's initiative.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:There's a bit at the start of The Last Command where a technician tries to pull off something clever to catch Luke and while it doesn't work Thrawn seems genuinely impressed and pleased at the officer's initiative. Didn't he summarily execute the guy's officer for not training him well enough though?
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Didn't he summarily execute the guy's officer for not training him well enough though? There are two similar scenes: one in the first book where he executes the guy who (trained the guy who) hosed up, one in the third book where he praises the initiative of the operator.
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In conclusion the Chimera is a land of contrasts
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Doctor Spaceman posted:There are two similar scenes: one in the first book where he executes the guy who (trained the guy who) hosed up, one in the third book where he praises the initiative of the operator. Cris Pieterson was executed because he refused to adapt to the situation, didn't own up to his mistakes, and tried to blame his teacher/commander for not training him right, which were not elements Thrawn wanted in the new Empire, hence why he spared the one who tried something new even though it didn't wholly work
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Cojawfee posted:I want sexy Darth Vader where he has the helmet but no shirt and he's ripped. Have you seen A Clockwork Orange.
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Vinylshadow posted:Cris Pieterson was executed because he refused to adapt to the situation, didn't own up to his mistakes, and tried to blame his teacher/commander for not training him right, which were not elements Thrawn wanted in the new Empire, hence why he spared the one who tried something new even though it didn't wholly work I also like the callback in Hand of Thrawn 20 years later when someone tries the same trick on the Imperials and by then they've figured out a countermeasure
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Cojawfee posted:I want sexy Darth Vader where he has the helmet but no shirt and he's ripped.  https://www.nickstember.com/chinese-star-wars-comic-part-1-6/
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Whoa, kick rear end  I think this Leia look might be better than the real one
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Princess Dua Lipa
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StashAugustine posted:I did like the bit where Thrawn casually mentions she was "one of" the Emperor's Hands In Naboo, this is extremely normal. Every high ranking official has a cadre of hot babes running about.
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Cojawfee posted:I want sexy Darth Vader where he has the helmet but no shirt and he's ripped. Lord Humongous says hello. 
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I want a threeway fight between shirtless Vader, the Humongous, and Zed from Zardoz
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Sash! posted:I want a threeway fight between shirtless Vader, the Humongous, and Zed from Zardoz You take that deviant talk down to the anime boards.
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If you asked me to pick between this or a "Death of Stalin" type black comedy about the days after the Battle of Endor (another suggestion earlier in this thread), it'd be a tough call.
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Lazy Fair posted:This is also largely true of the Empire its self, and the greater theme of star wars with the Empire vs the Rebellion. The strong but brittle imperial war machine falling apart against a weak but flexible insurgency is very much the point. once again the core of what Star Wars is all about is: the Viet Minh loving up the United States
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PriorMarcus posted:The most cowardly thing the sequels did was dismissing the idea that Palpatine fucks. nah, the most cowardly thing they did was fail to give us any fun new whizz-bang space ship designs ... the *next* most cowardly thing was denying that Sheev fucks like a
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Fuligin posted:nah, the most cowardly thing they did was fail to give us any fun new whizz-bang space ship designs I liked the Supremacy, that thing loving ruled. A really great twist on the Star Destroyer design language.
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PriorMarcus posted:The most cowardly thing the sequels did was dismissing the idea that Palpatine fucks. For all their many faults this technically isn’t the sequels fault. The movie itself was very forthright on Palpatine’s need to breed. It was only later “damage control” by the Disney social media pr brigade and later EU works that told everyone that terms like “son” and “granddaughter” totally don’t mean anything about family relations. Instead inventing some BS about clones. Someone high up the corporate ladder had very strong opinions about Palpatine’s sex life.
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